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  1. Hello.

    I just wondered what companies you recommend for insurance for
    cyclists, and also do you think that it should be a requirement of law
    in the UK that cyclists that use the roads be insured as is the case
    with other road users?

    Thanks

    John

  2. I submit that on or about Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:01:20 +0100, the person
    known to the court as John <[email hidden]> made a statement
    (<[email hidden]> in Your Honour's bundle)
    to the following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    I just wondered what companies you recommend for insurance for
    cyclists,

    Your house contents insurance may well cover you, but membership of
    the CTC (http://www.ctc.org.uk) brings substantial third-party
    liability cover.

    Insurance for your bike against theft is also usually cheapest through
    your house contents policy (but check the small print regarding where
    it can be stored and left, and restrictions on locks).

    Quoted message said:

    and also do you think that it should be a requirement of law
    in the UK that cyclists that use the roads be insured as is the case
    with other road users?

    No. Most road users are not insured (pedestrians are the most
    numerous users of the roads), and the insurance which is mandated for
    motor drivers is mainly a reflection of their substantial capacity to
    cause damage to property. Bikes have very limited capacity to cause
    damage - the fact that many cycle clubs can include millions of
    pounds' worth of public liability at no additional charge is an
    indication of how low the risk is! The "problem" of uninsured
    cyclists has never been large enough to justify the costs of the
    "solution".

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  3. "John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello.

    I just wondered what companies you recommend for insurance for
    cyclists, and also do you think that it should be a requirement of law
    in the UK that cyclists that use the roads be insured as is the case
    with other road users?

    Thanks

    John

    Assuming you are not a troll from uk.tosspot... :-)

    Many cyclists already have third party liability via household insurance.
    Many have it via membership of CTC or British Cycling. No, I don't think it
    should be mandatory, even though I hold such insurance, as it is *not*
    mandatory for other road users other than motorists, which is right and
    proper (I am also an insured motorist by the way), due to the greater
    increased risk of injury to third parties caused by driving a significantly
    large chunk of metal around at speed. The greatest number of road users are
    pedestrians (I'm also one of those) and pedestrians don't require insurance
    to be able to use the highway. Do you think pedestrians should be insured
    before they are allowed to cross the roads? Remember where the risk comes
    from. It's not cyclists or pedestrians killing 3500 people on our roads each
    year and injuring tens of thousands more - it's primarily motorists killing
    other motorists, so IMO, there is a legitimate requirement for motorists to
    be insured.

    Cheers, helen s

  4. John said:

    I just wondered what companies you recommend for insurance for
    cyclists

    I have insurance via my club membership, which I think is affiliated to
    the CTC.

    Quoted message said:

    , and also do you think that it should be a requirement of law
    in the UK that cyclists that use the roads be insured as is the case
    with other road users?

    Yes. Fortunately, as Guy says, most cyclists are already covered by
    their household insurance.

    In any case, uninsured (not to mention unlicensed) motorists are a far
    bigger problem.

    d.

  5. Guy said:

    The "problem" of uninsured
    cyclists has never been large enough to justify the costs of the
    "solution".

    ....which becomes even more apparent when you compare it to the problems
    caused by uninsured motorists.

    d.

  6. Guy said:

    The "problem" of uninsured
    cyclists has never been large enough to justify the costs of the
    "solution".

    ....which becomes even more apparent when you compare it to the problems
    caused by uninsured motorists.

    d.

  7. John said:


    Hello.

    I just wondered what companies you recommend for insurance for
    cyclists,

    I would fully recommend you are covered for third party insurance. This
    is often included within household insurance policies or as a 'freebie'
    within membership of various cycling organisations,such as the CTC.
    It is *very* cheap - a reflection of the low number of claims against
    cyclists and that they do not go around killing many thousands of people
    each year.
    I have changed my mind recently and believe that all adult cyclists
    should have 3rd party insurance. With today's regretful growth of US
    style litigation cases, it is the actions of a responsible rider.

    Regarding other insurances - you should look at having your bike insured
    with any household policy but beware small print.
    It is by far the cheapest way.

    Quoted message said:

    and also do you think that it should be a requirement of law
    in the UK that cyclists that use the roads be insured as is the case
    with other road users?

    Please don't make the mistake of thinking that what applies to one class
    of road user should automatically apply to all others.

    John B

  8. I submit that on or about Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:17:21 +0100, the person
    known to the court as JohnB <[email hidden]> made a statement
    (<[email hidden]> in Your Honour's bundle) to the
    following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    I have changed my mind recently and believe that all adult cyclists
    should have 3rd party insurance. With today's regretful growth of US
    style litigation cases, it is the actions of a responsible rider.

    So should all adult pedestrians, then, since they are much more likely
    to cause crashes in which actual damage will be done to people's
    precious penis extensions.

    I recommend insurance, but would certainly not elevate it to the level
    of a "should have" let alone a "must have". Nice to have is about as
    far as it goes for me.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  9. Just zis Guy said:


    I submit that on or about Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:17:21 +0100, the person
    known to the court as JohnB <[email hidden]> made a statement
    (<[email hidden]> in Your Honour's bundle) to the
    following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    I have changed my mind recently and believe that all adult cyclists
    should have 3rd party insurance. With today's regretful growth of US
    style litigation cases, it is the actions of a responsible rider.

    So should all adult pedestrians, then, since they are much more likely
    to cause crashes in which actual damage will be done to people's
    precious penis extensions.

    OK. Perhaps they should.

    John B

  10. Okay thanks for the replies. I understand.

    John

  11. John said:

    Okay thanks for the replies. I understand.

    That's refreshing! Some of us were anticipating an imminent troll
    attack and you turn out to be a perfectly reasonable chap after all!
    :-)

    Seriously, though, it is a good question - it's just usually one that
    is asked by petrolheads looking for a fight rather than people that
    genuinely want to know.

    d.

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