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margaret suran said:
No offense Margaret, thanks, but no thanks....
Firstly I had never heard of "Kashi" and second of all, any site that
wants me to fill in any sort of "personal" information puts me off -
even to get a "free sample" of anything😉 Sure, I don't have to fill in
my "real" birth date, but WTF do they need that for, may I humbly ask?Found this under their Privacy Policy regarding "personal information":
I especially liked the last two paragraphs...."Gathering and Use of Personal Information
Kashi collects personal information, like name, address, e-mail address,
phone number, product preferences, and demographic information, from our
online visitors on a voluntary basis to fulfill your requests, provide
you with information and updates on our site and our products, improve
our services, and for internal marketing purposes. For your convenience,
and to serve you better, we may combine personal information about you
that you provide to this site with information we obtain from business
partners or other companies. We also record certain non-personal
information automatically when you visit our site, such as your IP
address, cookie information, and the page you request.Visitors may access many features of our site without providing any
personal information. However, to participate in some of the benefits
and features offered on the Kashi site, you may have to provide personal
information. These benefits are described in more detail below. Except
as explained below, personal information received from any visitor will
only be used for internal marketing purposes and will not be sold or
provided to third parties.If you provide information such as recipes or comments regarding our
products and services, we have the right to use this information in any
manner and for any purpose without obligation to you.We do reserve the right to use any information you provide to protect
our site, our property (including our intellectual property), or the
safety or property of third parties; to investigate illegal activity,
fraud or threats; and/or to cooperate with legal authorities or orders.
We will also transfer information about you if we are acquired or merged
with a third party but will notify you in advance. "
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Chatty Cathy <[email hidden]>
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margaret suran said:
No offense Margaret, thanks, but no thanks....
Firstly I had never heard of "Kashi" and second of all, any site that
wants me to fill in any sort of "personal" information puts me off -
even to get a "free sample" of anything😉 Sure, I don't have to fill in
my "real" birth date, but WTF do they need that for, may I humbly ask?I'm guessing it's just demographic info they are seeking to find the right
age group, location etc. to market the product. IMO it's no different than
ordering merchandise or info via the Net. I do it all the time and have
had no bad experiences except spam maybe. OTOH, I have a Yahoo email addy
I use for all this stuff and I never see their spam anyway. I've not
noticed an increase (in fact just the opposite) in junk snail mail. I
ordered my sample and I thank Margaret for the link 😉 I'm familiar with
Kashi and nab one of their products now and then. Especially if I'm on the
go and hungry.Michael
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Michael 'Dog3' Lonergan said:
I'm guessing it's just demographic info they are seeking to find the right
age group, location etc. to market the product. IMO it's no different than
ordering merchandise or info via the Net. I do it all the time and have
had no bad experiences except spam maybe. OTOH, I have a Yahoo email addy
I use for all this stuff and I never see their spam anyway. I've not
noticed an increase (in fact just the opposite) in junk snail mail. I
ordered my sample and I thank Margaret for the link 😉 I'm familiar with
Kashi and nab one of their products now and then. Especially if I'm on the
go and hungry.Well, I hope you enjoy it!
I am still puzzled about why they need your "whole" birth date? Surely
just the year of birth would suffice if they are trying to gage the
different "age groups" of their consumers. I have ordered stuff on line
too (not that often, I have to admit) - but nowhere else have I been
asked to put in my full birth date.... a name and delivery address is a
given, but a birth date? I dunno. Oh well.... Maybe they will send you a
"happy birthday" greeting to the email address you supplied, or they
need to check your "sign" too - lemme know wontcha?? LOL
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Chatty Cathy - who is *not* paranoid in any way 😉 -
Chatty Cathy <[email hidden]>
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Well, I hope you enjoy it!<shrug> Maybe, maybe not. I'm not real enthused about some of their
products but do like some of them.Quoted message said:
I am still puzzled about why they need your "whole" birth date? Surely
just the year of birth would suffice if they are trying to gage the
different "age groups" of their consumers.You got me. I don't know why they need the whole birth date.
Quoted message said:
I have ordered stuff on line too (not that often, I have to admit) - but
nowhere else have I been asked to put in my full birth date....Hmmmm... Sometimes I've been asked for a full birthdate but it's usually
for something like filling out an alcohol or tobacco survey for coupons or
something. I can't think of any site, that I regularly buy from, that
requires my full birthdate.Quoted message said:
a name and delivery
address is a given, but a birth date? I dunno. Oh well.... Maybe they
will send you a "happy birthday" greeting to the email address you
supplied, or they need to check your "sign" too - lemme know wontcha??
LOLLOL... will do. Next they'll want your shoe, waist and hat size 😉
Michael
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Chatty Cathy said:
margaret suran said:
No offense Margaret, thanks, but no thanks....
Firstly I had never heard of "Kashi" and second of all, any site that
wants me to fill in any sort of "personal" information puts me off -
even to get a "free sample" of anything😉 Sure, I don't have to fill in
my "real" birth date, but WTF do they need that for, may I humbly ask?Found this under their Privacy Policy regarding "personal information":
I especially liked the last two paragraphs....
*The rest of post was snipped*Kathy, I guess I am too trusting and too gullible. I like Kashi
cereals, the ones I have bought are much less sweet than most from other
companies. I hope that they will also come out with some that have less
sodium.Last year there was an offer from them for a snack bar or energy bar or
something. It came in due time and I was never approached with email or
bothered in any way by either Kashi or any other company.As for the exact birthday, the year is obvious. They want to know how
old the consumers of their goods are. As for the "real" birth date, the
two times I was roped into giving it to other companies, I ended up
getting birthday cards (email) as well as small gifts by US Mail. One
was a New York Yankee refrigerator magnet, with the Yankee Logo, the
other was a special coupon for one free Starbuck's drink, either hot or
cold. I gave both of my gifts away. :o) -
margaret suran wrote:
<snippety-do-dah>
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As for the exact birthday, the year is obvious. They want to know how
old the consumers of their goods are. As for the "real" birth date, the
two times I was roped into giving it to other companies, I ended up
getting birthday cards (email) as well as small gifts by US Mail. One
was a New York Yankee refrigerator magnet, with the Yankee Logo, the
other was a special coupon for one free Starbuck's drink, either hot or
cold. I gave both of my gifts away. :o)Well, that makes it worth it then, doesn't it? <ROFL>
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"margaret suran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Thank you, Margaret!
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Chatty Cathy said:
margaret suran said:
No offense Margaret, thanks, but no thanks....
Firstly I had never heard of "Kashi" and second of all, any site that
wants me to fill in any sort of "personal" information puts me off -
even to get a "free sample" of anything😉 Sure, I don't have to fill in
my "real" birth date, but WTF do they need that for, may I humbly ask?Found this under their Privacy Policy regarding "personal information":
I especially liked the last two paragraphs....With all free sample offers, I enter a bogus DOB, a bogus phone
number, a misspelling of my name, and an email address that I use only
for spam producing activity. -
"Chatty Cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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margaret suran said:
No offense Margaret, thanks, but no thanks....
Firstly I had never heard of "Kashi" and second of all, any site that wants me to
fill in any sort of "personal" information puts me off - even to get a "free
sample" of anything😉 Sure, I don't have to fill in my "real" birth date, but WTF
do they need that for, may I humbly ask?
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Chatty CathyKashi is becoming quite popular, at least here in the US. They've got a line of
healthy cereals and snacks that, get this, taste GOOD. We regularly buy several of
their cereals and recently tried the granola-style bars.They ask for the information for demographics, of course. Companies are always trying
to figure out who their customer base is and what those people want. It's basic
marketing 101. Asking your birthdates is slightly more polite than saying "Hey, how
old are you?", so that's what they ask. It's not like they are asking for your social
security number and credit card information. The rest of it is called "let's get the
lawyers to come up with something that covers everything just in case" because we
live in a paranoid and extremely litigious society. I sincerely doubt they waste
money storing individual information once they get their numbers sorted.kimberly
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Nexis said:
They ask for the information for demographics, of course. Companies are
always trying to figure out who their customer base is and what those
people want. It's basic marketing 101. Asking your birthdates is
slightly more polite than saying "Hey, how old are you?", so that's what
they ask. It's not like they are asking for your social security number
and credit card information. The rest of it is called "let's get the
lawyers to come up with something that covers everything just in case"
because we live in a paranoid and extremely litigious society. I
sincerely doubt they waste money storing individual information once
they get their numbers sorted.Like I said before in this thread, if they wanna know how old you are -
just the year of your birth is enough, IMHO. A name plus complete birth
date is step 1 in identity theft. And as for "wasting money storing
individual information once they get their numbers sorted" - I think you
are wrong here. Every individual bit of information by itself is
worthless. All the little bits combined and correlated is worth a lot.
Also most of this data is no good to anyone unless it has a "bunch of
history" behind it so they can see a "trend", which in turn is used for
planning their marketing strategy in the future - that's basic Economics
101...
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Chatty Cathy
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