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  1. He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

  2. Red Cloud said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

    Moron,
    He trains every day. How the Hell so you think he could get into shape
    to win the TDF? Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.
    Duh....
    Bill Baka

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  3. Bill Baka said:

    He trains every day. How the Hell so you think he could get into shape
    to win the TDF? Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.

    I do all of my food shopping with the bike and a large backpack. Since the
    central fruit & veg market is in the city (about 5km away), it saves having
    to pay for a high-rise park.

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  4. [email hidden] (Red Cloud) wrote:

    <typical Red Cloud troll>

    Please do not feed the troll. If they don't get fed, they go away.

    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

  5. "Red Cloud" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more.

    You might not be getting endless direct mail campaigns with Lance'a name on
    the return addesss urging support for the League of American Bicyclists.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Red Cloud) said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more.

    Why do I feed the trolls? Why?

    Besides leading annual charity rides, occasional cross-training on an
    MTB or cyclocross bike, and his racing, Lance rides several hours of
    training per day for most of the year. When he's not on his bike
    training, he's probably spending as much time as possible recovering,
    plus his ridiculously complex schedule of corporate and charitable
    obligations.

    Lance almost certainly spends far more time on a bicycle than in a car;
    a typical training day could see 7+ hours of cycling; he doesn't have
    time to drive a car more than he rides a bike.

    Armstrong is sponsored by Subaru, so it's a pretty good bet he has one
    or two of their vehicles. If you watch the Lance Chronicles, his coach
    and mechanic follow him around in a Subaru wagon (an Outback, I think).
    It's a 6-cylinder. He has also been seen driving a Suburban in years
    past.

    It's pretty clear that Lance loves riding his bike more than almost
    anyone in this newsgroup. He also puts more raw miles on his bike than
    almost anyone in the world, bike couriers included.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

  7. Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Red Cloud said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

    Moron,
    He trains every day. How the Hell so you think he could get into shape
    to win the TDF? Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.
    Duh....
    Bill Baka

    Poor Bill,
    He does not matter he trains everyday or how many time he won the Tour
    de France. He does not even matter to you or to any American public.
    He onlys won his winning prize for buying new Hummer. He certainlyh did not
    won a trophy for you. Lance does not look at your as a brother. He considers
    as a bully or super X-gamer boy. If you are on his way, he wants to kick your
    ass.

  8. Red Cloud said:

    Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Red Cloud said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

    Moron,
    He trains every day. How the Hell so you think he could get into shape
    to win the TDF? Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.
    Duh....
    Bill Baka

    Poor Bill,
    He does not matter he trains everyday or how many time he won the Tour
    de France. He does not even matter to you or to any American public.
    He onlys won his winning prize for buying new Hummer. He certainlyh did
    not
    won a trophy for you. Lance does not look at your as a brother. He
    considers
    as a bully or super X-gamer boy. If you are on his way, he wants to kick
    your
    ass.

    Again, IDIOT!
    I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the gang
    types
    on Harleys. Bicycling is better for you, you don't get hassled by the cops
    as much,
    if ever, and you don't get into so many fights over what 'colors' you are
    wearing.
    Kick me ass on a bicycle, maybe, kick my ass, not!
    GO HIDE UNDER A ROCK.
    Bill Baka

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  9. Red Cloud said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

    Is Red Cloudy real troll? He post nonsense in poor grammars. He say all
    kinds of meaningless thing. He babble on. Then when get riled, his grammar
    perfect.

    Austin

  10. Bill Baka said:
    Red Cloud said:

    Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 7 Aug 2004 00:05:01 -0700, Red Cloud <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    > He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    > I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for
    > the racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a
    > bike more? I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game
    > rider like bunch of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with
    > bike. I bet that Lance Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet
    > that whenever Lance goes to market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I
    > don't think he drives a 4-cylinder toyota or not even his bike.
    > OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    > engaged in
    > public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    > that,
    > I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance
    > Armstrong is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this
    > bully-macho white racist
    > culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    > street.

    Moron,
    He trains every day. How the Hell so you think he could get into
    shape to win the TDF? Getting groceries and going to public events
    requires the use of a car, non-optional.
    Duh....
    Bill Baka

    Poor Bill,
    He does not matter he trains everyday or how many time he won the
    Tour de France. He does not even matter to you or to any American
    public.
    He onlys won his winning prize for buying new Hummer. He certainlyh
    did not
    won a trophy for you. Lance does not look at your as a brother. He
    considers
    as a bully or super X-gamer boy. If you are on his way, he wants to
    kick your
    ass.

    Again, IDIOT!
    I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the
    gang types
    on Harleys. Bicycling is better for you, you don't get hassled by the
    cops as much,
    if ever, and you don't get into so many fights over what 'colors' you
    are wearing.
    Kick me ass on a bicycle, maybe, kick my ass, not!
    GO HIDE UNDER A ROCK.
    Bill Baka

    Pssst, Bill: it is not necessary to reply to every single message within
    every single thread in which you're involved.

    Bill "HTH" S.

  11. Belated and redundant troll alert!

  12. The big question is whether Red Cloud, Ed Dolan and Mike Vandemann are the same
    person. Different styles in trolling.

    Bill, riding bent in Florida
    (hence the screen name)

    I may be old and fat, but by golly,

    I'm Slow!

    To e-mail, remove undies

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bill Baka said:

    Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.

    Not where I [choose to] live.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Red Cloud) said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?

    Ask him, not us.

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  15. "AustinMN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Red Cloud said:

    He could be the fastest biker on earth but...is he a real biker?
    I mean is Lance ever ride a bike in any other activity except for the
    racing? Or is Lance ever urge American people to utilize a bike more?
    I doubt he could do any of that? Lance is like X-game rider like bunch
    of American teen X-game culture. Jumping with bike. I bet that Lance
    Armstrong ride a car most of time. I bet that whenever Lance goes to
    market, he drives SUV or Hummer. I don't think he drives a 4-cylinder
    toyota or not even his bike.
    OUt of his winning Tour de France 6 time in a row, he never has
    engaged in
    public campaign for his American people to ride a bike more. To do
    that,
    I think he does not want to look like a wimp. I mean Lance Armstrong
    is a white male strong guy which he desired to in this bully-macho
    white racist
    culture. He does not want to be wimpy poor guy pumping a pedal on
    street.

    Is Red Cloudy real troll? He post nonsense in poor grammars. He say all
    kinds of meaningless thing. He babble on. Then when get riled, his grammar
    perfect.

    Austin

    you do show some poor grammar. when you refer to third person, the verb
    ends with "s". You should write like this "He says all...,and He babbles on..."

  16. Bill Baka said:

    Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.

    I think you'll find that there are people on this NG, myself included,
    who go grocery shopping on their bikes. Be thou careful, lest others
    judge thee to be even dumber than 'Cloud.

  17. Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:

    Getting groceries and going to public events requires
    the use of a car, non-optional.

    I think you'll find that there are people on this NG, myself included,
    who go grocery shopping on their bikes. Be thou careful, lest others
    judge thee to be even dumber than 'Cloud.

    You guys must be living single in the city. I live married and rural
    and there is no way that I can avoid a car with 3 carts full of groceries.
    Mostly I avoid driving by 'letting' my wife do the shopping, something
    she prefers anyway.
    I used to live around the corner from work, 1 block from McDonalds and
    other fine eating establishments, and a grocery store was across a field
    behind my abode. I still had a car since it was non-feasible to pick up
    girls on a bike. Unless you guys are dating your bikes I would like to
    hear a comeback for that.
    Bill Baka

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  18. "Bill Baka" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    You guys must be living single in the city. I live married and rural
    and there is no way that I can avoid a car with 3 carts full of groceries.
    Mostly I avoid driving by 'letting' my wife do the shopping, something
    she prefers anyway.
    I used to live around the corner from work, 1 block from McDonalds and
    other fine eating establishments, and a grocery store was across a field
    behind my abode. I still had a car since it was non-feasible to pick up
    girls on a bike. Unless you guys are dating your bikes I would like to
    hear a comeback for that.
    Bill Baka

    It can be done. Just need a little imagination.

    I met, dated, got married with no car.
    Lived long stretches car-less. Groceries AND laundry (no W/D avail) with no
    car.
    Recently, family of 6 - one car. I commuted by bike. Every day.

    Pete

  19. "Bill Baka" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You guys must be living single in the city. I live married and rural
    and there is no way that I can avoid a car with 3 carts full of groceries.
    Mostly I avoid driving by 'letting' my wife do the shopping, something
    she prefers anyway.
    I used to live around the corner from work, 1 block from McDonalds and
    other fine eating establishments, and a grocery store was across a field
    behind my abode. I still had a car since it was non-feasible to pick up
    girls on a bike. Unless you guys are dating your bikes I would like to
    hear a comeback for that.

    You seem to think the way you live is the only way anybody can live.

    Most people live in the cities or suburbs. Most people can bike if they
    choose to. It's easy to carry two bags of groceries on a bike with a rack;
    it's easy to carry 50 pounds of groceries on a bike with a trailer.

    It's been a long time since I dated; after 33 years of marriage my wife and
    I have the house to ourselves again. But even when I was young I was never
    interested in women who judged men by their cars.

    RichC

  20. Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:39:38 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

    Bill Baka said:

    I still had a car since it was non-feasible to pick up
    girls on a bike. Unless you guys are dating your bikes I would like to
    hear a comeback for that.

    If she's not on a bike, she's not on my radar.
    --
    zk

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