Is this running?

"thehick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

That's hilarious. More so because the guy in the red shorts is me.

Quoted message said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

Now THAT was funny! Thanks

--
Phil M.

thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

Thanks .. made me laugh (god knows we all need to
laugh more!).

cheers,
Esmail

thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

That is soooooooooooo funny.

Mary

maryo49 said:

thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

That is soooooooooooo funny.

Mary

Long time no hear Mary. How are you keeping?

Tim

thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

Looks like Rebecchi and Prochak going for their daily jog. Butt boy,
did that video turn me on...

"maryo49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

That is soooooooooooo funny.

Looks like Pendejo! 😉

As Tim said, how you be?????

-Doug

Looks like an urban training session for the Brokeback Marathon.

thehick said:

Maybe this is a stunt. or a feat? If the link doesn't work
it's the first video on break.com RIGHT NOW.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv
...thehick

--
Quality is a function of design, materials, and craftsmanship.
Inspection can only confirm quality or reveal deficiencies.
In no case, can quality be inspected into anything.

Hi, Tim and Doug

You missed me?🙂 That made my day! Actually, AOL doesn't have
newsgroups, anymore, so it is difficult for me to read these threads.
They appear cumbersome, at least as I am pulling them up. But spring
is in the air here in Iowa, and my thoughts turned to youth and
vitality... and rec.running, oddly enough. So, here I am! All this
foot business that I lamented about so agonizingly in here for a long
period of time turned into a very painful neurological disorder. "My
brain isn't connected to the rest of me." I have these very offputting
power surges through my body, buzzing (yes, buzzing) joints, headaches
from time to time, abnormal movements, and a foot that feels like it is
in a meat grinder. One bed sheet, with the highest thread count, was
recently tossed because the foot movement turned it into shreds. I
guess that 'splains it, in part. I see a neurologist at the university
hospital, but there doesn't seem to be anything in the little black bag
for me. I do have good days--but, there is no stopping it. ANYWAY--I
DO STILL RUN!!!!! I CAN STILL RUN!!!! Three or four miles at a time.
ANd it is euphoric. THANK GOD FOR RUNNING!!!!! One of my favorite
things in the world is to travel to a new town (I travel a lot for
business), and to explore in my running shoes. When I am running, I
feel like I can conquer the world. For an old broad to still be
running (58), well, I've still got it going on. I stopped for awhile.
I didn't think it was wise to run. The doctor said keep running, and
that's the best advice I could have had. I'm looking soooooo forward
to what summer brings.
Cheers,
Mary

The Twin Paradox: Introduction

Our story stars two twins, sometimes unimaginatively named A and B; we
prefer the monikers Stella and Terence.

Terence sits at home on Earth.
  Stella flies off in a spaceship at nearly the speed of light, turns
around after a while, thrusters blazing, and returns.

(So Terence is the terrestrial sort; Stella sets her sights on the
stars.)

When our heroes meet again, what do they find?  Did time slow down for
Stella, making her years younger than her home-bound brother?

Or can Stella declare that the Earth did the travelling, so Terence
is the younger?
Not to keep anyone in suspense, Special Relativity (SR for short) plumps
unequivocally for the first answer: Stella ages less than Terence
between the departure and the reunion.
(in other words Tim and Df are still the old farts) and mary049 is the
young at heart Hellooooooooooo kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss
I so miss you. give me the phone give me the phone. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

Perhaps we can make short work of the "travelling Earth" argument.  SR
does not declare that all frames of reference are equivalent, only
so-called inertial frames.  Stella's frame is not inertial while she
is accelerating.  And this is observationally detectable: Stella had
to fire her thrusters midway through her trip; Terence did nothing of
the sort.  The Ming vase she had borrowed from Terence fell over and
cracked.  She struggled to maintain her balance, like the crew of Star
Trek.  In short, she felt the acceleration, while Terence felt
nothing.
Whew!  One short paragraph, and we've polished off the twin
paradox.  Is that really all there is to it?  Well, not quite. 
There's nothing wrong with what we've said so far, but we've left out a
lot.  There are reasons for the popular confusion.
For one thing, we've been rather unfair to Stella.  We've said why she
can't simply adopt Terence's viewpoint, but we haven't said how things
look from her perspective.  It seems passing strange that Terence
could age several years just because Stella engages her thrusters. 
The Time Gap and Distance Dependence Objections put a sharper edge on
this uneasy feeling.
There are versions of the twin paradox where Stella doesn't turn on her
thrusters and feels no acceleration (the Slingshot variation, where
Stella whips round a distant star in free-fall, and the Magellan
variation, where Stella travels round a cylindrical or spherical
universe).  These cast doubt on how relevant the acceleration is in
the usual version.  (We may add FAQ entries for these variations
sometime in the future, but at the moment they are left as Exercises for
the Reader.)
Finally, what about General Relativity (GR)?  Doesn't that say that
Stella can still claim to be motionless the whole time, but that a
humongous gravitational field just happened to sweep through the
universe when she hit her "thrusters on" button?  (For that matter,
Terence experiences the Earth's gravity; is his frame truly
inertial?)  Some people claim that the twin paradox can be resolved
only by invoking GR.  We disagree, but the "GR Explanation" of the
twin paradox does shed some light.  The GR viewpoint is nearly
mandatory for understanding some of the twin paradox variations.
Let's lay out a "standard version" of the paradox in detail, and settle
on some terminology.  We'll get rid of Stella's acceleration at the
start and end of the trip.  Stella flashes past Terence in her
spaceship both times, coasting along.
Here's the itinerary according to Terence:
Start Event
Stella flashes past.  Clocks are synchronized to 0.
Outbound Leg
Stella coasts along at (say) nearly 99 percent of light-speed. At 99
percent, the time dilation factor is a bit over 7, so let's say the
speed is just a shade under 99 percent and the time dilation factor is
7.  Let's say this part of the trip takes 7 years (according to
Terence, of course).
Turnaround
Stella fires her thrusters for, say, 1 day, until she is coasting back
towards Earth at nearly 99 percent light-speed.  (Stella is the hardy
sort.)  Some variations on the paradox call for an instantaneous
Turnaround; we'll call that the Turnaround Event.
Inbound Leg
Stella coasts back for 7 years at 99 percent light-speed.
Return Event
Stella flashes past Terence in the other direction, and they compare
clocks, or grey hairs, or any other sign of elapsed time.
According to Terence, 14 years and a day have elapsed between the Start
and Return Events; Stella's clock however reads just a shade over 2
years.
How much over?  Well, Terence says the Turnaround took a day. 
Stella's speed was changing throughout the Turnaround, and so her time
dilation factor was changing, varying between 1 and 7.  So Stella's
measurement of the Turnaround Time will be something between 1 day and
one-seventh of a day.  If you work it out, it turns out to be a bit
over 15 hours.
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"maryo49" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi, Tim and Doug

You missed me?🙂 That made my day!

Course we did! There are so few non-trolls here that when a honest-to-god
real person disappears, we notice. Besides, I (maybe we) have been
wondering how you've been getting on.

Quoted message said:

Actually, AOL doesn't have
newsgroups, anymore, so it is difficult for me to read these threads.

For a minimal fee (10 euros /year) you can get all the non-binary newsgroups
from news.indiviual.net (http://news.individual.net/). Far nicer to use a
proper newsreader and news service than Google groops.

Quoted message said:

They appear cumbersome, at least as I am pulling them up. But spring
is in the air here in Iowa, and my thoughts turned to youth and
vitality... and rec.running, oddly enough. So, here I am! All this
foot business that I lamented about so agonizingly in here for a long
period of time turned into a very painful neurological disorder. "My
brain isn't connected to the rest of me." I have these very offputting
power surges through my body, buzzing (yes, buzzing) joints, headaches
from time to time, abnormal movements, and a foot that feels like it is
in a meat grinder. One bed sheet, with the highest thread count, was
recently tossed because the foot movement turned it into shreds. I
guess that 'splains it, in part. I see a neurologist at the university
hospital, but there doesn't seem to be anything in the little black bag
for me. I do have good days--but, there is no stopping it. ANYWAY--I
DO STILL RUN!!!!! I CAN STILL RUN!!!! Three or four miles at a time.
ANd it is euphoric. THANK GOD FOR RUNNING!!!!! One of my favorite
things in the world is to travel to a new town (I travel a lot for
business), and to explore in my running shoes. When I am running, I
feel like I can conquer the world. For an old broad to still be
running (58), well, I've still got it going on. I stopped for awhile.
I didn't think it was wise to run. The doctor said keep running, and
that's the best advice I could have had. I'm looking soooooo forward
to what summer brings.

Mary, I'm so pleased that you're got back to running. Dystonia has featured
in a couple of TV documentaries here recently which made for very sobering
viewing. Made me realise how lucky I am and gave me an insight into what
you're having to cope with.

Best wishes,

Tim

Thanks, TIm. I don't know how to do the quoted text, with this setup I
have... but, re: the TV documentaries...I wish I could have seen them.
There just isn't much "out there" in the way of learning about this.
If there were, I'd be at it! There just isn't much known, I guess. In
so many other ways, tho, I am blessed... we all have something we need
to deal with. This is just mine. It is mysterious (as well as
painful), and that's why it occupies my thoughts. But, now I'm off to
work, and life continues... and tonight, I shall run! Run, run, run!
Mary

maryo49 said:

I stopped for awhile. I didn't think it was wise to run. The doctor said keep running, and
that's the best advice I could have had.

I like this doctor.

--
Phil M.

maryo49 said:

Thanks, TIm. I don't know how to do the quoted text, with this setup
I have...

I think with Google groups you have to click "show options" and then click
on the "relpy" in the list at the top rather than the bottom of the page
before it produces quoted text.

Quoted message said:

but, re: the TV documentaries...I wish I could have seen
them.

I dunno. Might have shown you more than you want to know. It was a UK
Channel 5 program called "Extraordinary people" and you can read a bit about
the program here. http://www.five.tv/factsheets/bodies_out_of_control/

Quoted message said:

There just isn't much "out there" in the way of learning about
this. If there were, I'd be at it! There just isn't much known, I
guess. In so many other ways, tho, I am blessed... we all have
something we need to deal with. This is just mine. It is mysterious
(as well as painful), and that's why it occupies my thoughts. But,
now I'm off to work, and life continues... and tonight, I shall run!
Run, run, run! Mary

BTW, I vaguely recall suggesting that cannabis (or its derivatives) might be
worth trying (or at least discussing with your neurologist). It's used by
some multiple sclerosis sufferers and folk with spinal injuries who suffer
painful muscle spasms. I've no idea whether it would help, it's just an
idea.

Tim

maryo49 said:

Hi, Tim and Doug

You missed me?🙂 That made my day! Actually, AOL doesn't have
newsgroups, anymore, so it is difficult for me to read these threads.
They appear cumbersome, at least as I am pulling them up. But spring
is in the air here in Iowa, and my thoughts turned to youth and
vitality... and rec.running, oddly enough. So, here I am! All this
foot business that I lamented about so agonizingly in here for a long
period of time turned into a very painful neurological disorder. "My
brain isn't connected to the rest of me." I have these very offputting
power surges through my body, buzzing (yes, buzzing) joints, headaches
from time to time, abnormal movements, and a foot that feels like it is
in a meat grinder. One bed sheet, with the highest thread count, was
recently tossed because the foot movement turned it into shreds. I
guess that 'splains it, in part. I see a neurologist at the university
hospital, but there doesn't seem to be anything in the little black bag
for me. I do have good days--but, there is no stopping it. ANYWAY--I
DO STILL RUN!!!!! I CAN STILL RUN!!!! Three or four miles at a time.
ANd it is euphoric. THANK GOD FOR RUNNING!!!!! One of my favorite
things in the world is to travel to a new town (I travel a lot for
business), and to explore in my running shoes. When I am running, I
feel like I can conquer the world. For an old broad to still be
running (58), well, I've still got it going on. I stopped for awhile.
I didn't think it was wise to run. The doctor said keep running, and
that's the best advice I could have had. I'm looking soooooo forward
to what summer brings.
Cheers,
Mary

Glad to hear you're doing well Mary.

TheBillRodgers

Doug Freese said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/theyberunnin_rob.wmv

Looks like Pendejo! 😉

Yeah, I coulda sworn that was me and TBR, except it can't be because he's
not wearing his trademark plaid skirt. So confusing...

Tim Downie said:

BTW, I vaguely recall suggesting that cannabis (or its derivatives) might be
worth trying (or at least discussing with your neurologist). It's used by
some multiple sclerosis sufferers and folk with spinal injuries who suffer
painful muscle spasms. I've no idea whether it would help, it's just an
idea.

YEE HAW! Great idea dude!!!!!! If you got 'em, smoke 'em.

Charlie Pendejo said:

he's
not wearing his trademark plaid skirt

You know why they call it a kilt Spicdayhoe? Because the last guy who
called it a skirt, got kilt.

Tim Downie said:

I vaguely recall suggesting that cannabis [...] might be worth trying

....putting the "stoned" in dystonia...

Good luck Mary, I'm just playing with words and with Tim here, no intention
of making light of your plight. Though any plight which still allows you to
run has gotta be a whole lot better than a plight which doesn't!

Pendejo, whose favorite thing is also exploring a new town at 180
strides/min and 70% of MHR