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  1. I heard that the chemical based isocyanate products can cause acute
    asthma attacks, respritory failure and death, is this true? and there
    is no nationwide system for spray on facility inspections? how are they
    keeping employees safe? I work in the office and I can still be
    exposed!!!!

  2. Relates to r.b.t in what manner?

    A one-shot post well off-topic; smells like a troll to me.

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  3. Werehatrack said:

    Relates to r.b.t in what manner?

    A one-shot post well off-topic; smells like a troll to me.

    I agree. Besides, Googling turned up 15,000 links, among them:
    http://www.scif.com/news-info/lc-bulletins/Polyurethanes_Isocyanates_%20Asthma.htm

    Jeff

  4. "Jodi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I heard that the chemical based isocyanate products can cause acute
    asthma attacks, respritory failure and death, is this true? and there
    is no nationwide system for spray on facility inspections? how are they
    keeping employees safe? I work in the office and I can still be
    exposed!!!!

    Don't panic, ma'am. I'm sure "they" only use all-natural, non-chemical
    isocyanate products gently squeezed from organically grown isocyanate
    shrubs, lovingly nurtured with nothing more than pure morning dew and
    caressed daily by fresh mountain breezes.

    Even so, you should be wearing a positive pressure respirator to ensure your
    safety; 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. One can't be too careful.

  5. Yes, isocynates can cause lung problems but these compounds are highly reactive and as such, have a very short half life in the environment. Most urethanes no longer use high vapor pressure isocynates and rely on pre-reacted isocynates which have much lower vaporization rates. Most urethanes are free of toluene diisocyanate, the leading cluprit in industrial induced asthma.

  6. Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

  7. I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
    thought you may know something.

  8. Jodi said:

    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

    No.

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  9. Quoting Jodi <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
    thought you may know something.

    Are you also junking up every other newsgroup (not "chat room"😉 where
    anyone has mentioned isocyanates ever?

    The word "bicycles" might serve as a bit of a hint.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!
    Today is First Oneiros, April.

  10. "Jodi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I


    read a

    Quoted message said:

    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a


    reason

    Quoted message said:

    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???

    Exposure to isocyanates in the work place is governed by OSHA.
    http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/isocyanates/standards.html The case you
    are talking about probably involved a painter using an epoxy
    paint with isocyanates. Many of those paints are gone or
    reformulated, like IMRON. Or these paints are being applied with
    HVLP which puts less paint in the air -- and they are using moon
    suits. Moreover, there are no free isocyanates once the paint
    dries. It is a non-issue. -- Jay Beattie.

  11. Jodi said:

    ... I read a case where a man dropped
    dead from this chemical...

    I once read that the moon is made of green cheese, but...

  12. Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
    take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
    comes up. Why all the anger???

    David Damerell said:

    Quoting Jodi <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I searched on google Isocyanates and this chat room came up, just
    thought you may know something.

    Are you also junking up every other newsgroup (not "chat room"😉 where
    anyone has mentioned isocyanates ever?

    The word "bicycles" might serve as a bit of a hint.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!
    Today is First Oneiros, April.

  13. Jodi said:

    Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
    take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
    comes up. Why all the anger???

    Heh. "topic of this website" oh my.

    Put on your respirator and back away from the computer.

  14. Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They haven't been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the famous toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure, leading to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly spar varnish and foaming urethane glues are immune from the isocyanate vapor problems.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>, Jodi says...

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???


    I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
    You don't often read about this but it is true.

  16. Jodi said:

    Yeah, I noticed that "bicycles" is the topic of the website but if you
    take the time to do a google search on isocyanates this "newsgroup"
    comes up. Why all the anger???


    it's not a web site. it's a news group devoted to bicycles.
    chemicals are off topic *except* when discussed in the context of
    cycling technology. now just go away and take your oxygen bottle
    with you.

  17. Weisse Luft said:

    Isocyanates are found in polyurethane paints, not epoxies. They
    haven't been removed, only larger chain isocyanates have replaced the
    famous toluene diisocyanate. TDI has an appreciable vapor pressure,
    leading to the problems. Single component polyurethanes like poly
    spar varnish and foaming urethane glues are immune from the
    isocyanate vapor problems.

    How many /possible/ bike-related references in the above paragraph?

    (Hint: quite a few, with stretches.)

    Bill "and there's ANOTHER one" S.

  18. On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <[email hidden]> may have

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Jodi says...

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???


    I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
    You don't often read about this but it is true.

    www.dhmo.org

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  19. On 29 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0800, Ed <[email hidden]> may have

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Jodi says...

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???


    I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
    You don't often read about this but it is true.

    www.dhmo.org

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  20. Ed said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Jodi says...

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the humorous advice. I am a bit paniced because I read a
    case where a man dropped dead from this chemical, is this not a reason
    to panic if I am being exposed to the same chemical???


    I know of several people who have dropped dead within hours of drinking water.
    You don't often read about this but it is true.

    The media have been covering up for the Dihydrogen Monoxide producers and don't
    report these stories.

    http://www.circus.com/~nodhmo/

    Do what you can to prevent further DHMO related damage to our environment.

    Ron

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