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  1. News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.

    "It's a bicycle that's easy on elderly people," a Sakai Municipal
    Government official said. "We want to use it to revitalize Sakai's
    manufacturing industry."

    Do 'elderly people' have such a difficulty and how do you get it to go
    round corners?

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  2. Peter Fox said:

    News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.


    Ummm indeed. What's wrong with a tricycle if you have difficulty
    balancing a bicycle?

  3. "John Hearns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Fox said:

    News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.


    Ummm indeed. What's wrong with a tricycle if you have difficulty
    balancing a bicycle?

    And, with a tricycle, cars might give you a lot more room when they pass!

    Alan

  4. John Hearns said:
    Peter Fox said:

    News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.

    Ummm indeed. What's wrong with a tricycle if you have difficulty
    balancing a bicycle?

    Storage space? This is Japan after all

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    Marten Gerritsen

    INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
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  5. I can remember a programme about frame goemetry where they said that it
    was possible to build more stabilisation into the frame and forks, but
    that this would make the bike less easy to ride. A framebuilder
    demonstrated on that he had built by sending the riderless bike down a
    long traffic free hill. The bike balenced its self and rolled off into
    the distance!

  6. Peter Fox said:

    News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.

    "It's a bicycle that's easy on elderly people," a Sakai Municipal
    Government official said. "We want to use it to revitalize Sakai's
    manufacturing industry."

    Do 'elderly people' have such a difficulty and how do you get it to go
    round corners?

    I don't know. The oldest person I have ever ridden with was only 83 and
    annoyed that his club had forced him to move into the senior triathalon
    that year because they were short of members over 55.

    On the other hand we had a club member of about 72 who was charged with
    failing to stop at a stop sign. She claimed she had done a track stand
    and demonstarted it in court. Case dismissed. (A vile and nasty rumour
    going around did suggest that she learned to do trackstands after the
    stop sign incident but who would believe that?)

    Somehow I doubt that age is the determining factor particularly as
    cycling is a psychomotor skill and such skills tend not to be affected
    by age alone.

    There may be some conditions maybe hearing loss or other ear problems
    that might affect balance that are more common in the elderly.

    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  7. John Hearns said:

    Ummm indeed. What's wrong with a tricycle if you have difficulty
    balancing a bicycle?

    Simple. Why let practicality get in the way of a good gadget? ;-)

    Jon

  8. John_Kane said:
    Peter Fox said:

    News item here
    <http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060107p2a00m0na028000c.html>

    about a bike which senses lean and corrects.

    Ummm.

    "It's a bicycle that's easy on elderly people," a Sakai Municipal
    Government official said. "We want to use it to revitalize Sakai's
    manufacturing industry."

    Do 'elderly people' have such a difficulty and how do you get it to go
    round corners?

    I don't know. The oldest person I have ever ridden with was only 83 and
    annoyed that his club had forced him to move into the senior triathalon
    that year because they were short of members over 55.

    On the other hand we had a club member of about 72 who was charged with
    failing to stop at a stop sign. She claimed she had done a track stand
    and demonstarted it in court. Case dismissed. (A vile and nasty rumour
    going around did suggest that she learned to do trackstands after the
    stop sign incident but who would believe that?)

    Somehow I doubt that age is the determining factor particularly as
    cycling is a psychomotor skill and such skills tend not to be affected
    by age alone.

    There may be some conditions maybe hearing loss or other ear problems
    that might affect balance that are more common in the elderly.

    It seems very clear from the stats I've seen that the elderly are
    heavily represented in cycling fatalities in Japan. It's not impossible
    that a self-balancing bike would help a bit, depending on what
    proportion of the deaths are simple falls rather than getting hit. But
    even if there is a control problem, I still think that trikes are likely
    to be a more sensible solution.

    James
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    James Annan
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    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
    http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

  9. in message <[email hidden]>,

    John_Kane (') said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do 'elderly people' have such a difficulty and how do you get it to go
    round corners?

    I don't know. The oldest person I have ever ridden with was only 83 and
    annoyed that his club had forced him to move into the senior triathalon
    that year because they were short of members over 55.

    The oldest person I've ever ridden with was (I think) 97. He rode the
    eight miles into the Quaker meeting house in Lancaster every Sunday, and
    rode the eight miles home again, on a 20" wheel shopper bike. He wasn't
    very fast, but he got there.

    --
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