Jeanie Longo....

Bill C said:

Max Payne said:

Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

Nothing she does surprises me anymore. I haven't heard any of the
vehement hatred she used to bring out in other people in quite a while
either.
Bill C

I remember hearing maybe 20 years back that she had run for some
political office--IIRC in Grenoble, on the ticket of some right-wing
party (I don't think it was Le Pen's National Front, but I might be
wrong). However, more recently I tried to google this questionable
memory and came up empty handed.

Steve

Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

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Bill C said:

Max Payne said:

Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

Nothing she does surprises me anymore. I haven't heard any of the
vehement hatred she used to bring out in other people in quite a while
either.
Bill C

People hated Longo because they were insecure and jealous and for nno
other legitimate reason. There was no other explanation for it -
especially when you listen to their idiotic statements. They did an
interview with Rebecca Twigg in the 1992 Olympics and she stated "we don't
care who wins so long as it's not Longo."

Then Twigg imploded in the '96 Atlanta Games and nobody ever heard of her
again. What a [censored].

Magilla

Have you considered that she might want it that way?

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On Sep 26, 10:34 pm, "Max Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

Nothing she does surprises me anymore. I haven't heard any of the
vehement hatred she used to bring out in other people in quite a while
either.
Bill C

People hated Longo because they were insecure and jealous and for nno
other legitimate reason. There was no other explanation for it -
especially when you listen to their idiotic statements. They did an
interview with Rebecca Twigg in the 1992 Olympics and she stated "we
don't care who wins so long as it's not Longo."

Then Twigg imploded in the '96 Atlanta Games and nobody ever heard of
her again. What a [censored].

Magilla

Have you considered that she might want it that way?

What, you mean leave the Olympics in the middle of the Games and quit
the sport without getting a medal and ever answering to the cycling
community why she imploded? Is that how she represents the U.S.?

Twigg was from an era when there was little or no competition in women's
cycling. And then when the Olympics came in 1996, she found herself
outclassed. So she got mental and quit and then blamed it on Carmichael.

Magilla

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People hated Longo because they were insecure and jealous and for nno
other legitimate reason. There was no other explanation for it -
especially when you listen to their idiotic statements. They did an
interview with Rebecca Twigg in the 1992 Olympics and she stated "we
don't care who wins so long as it's not Longo."

Then Twigg imploded in the '96 Atlanta Games and nobody ever heard of
her again. What a [censored].

Magilla

Have you considered that she might want it that way?

What, you mean leave the Olympics in the middle of the Games and quit the
sport without getting a medal and ever answering to the cycling community
why she imploded? Is that how she represents the U.S.?

Twigg was from an era when there was little or no competition in women's
cycling. And then when the Olympics came in 1996, she found herself
outclassed. So she got mental and quit and then blamed it on Carmichael.

Magilla

No, I mean your " nobody ever heard of her again". The '96 mess was just
that, a mess. And it can be laid at her feet if you want to portray a
simple, neat package of a reply, but it's somewhat more complex than that.

As for the 'nobody ever heard of her again', Twigg was not one to dwell in
the spotlight. Given her pre '88 accolades, did you hear anything about her
until she resurfaced in 1992?

Bill C said:

Max Payne said:

Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

Nothing she does surprises me anymore. I haven't heard any of the
vehement hatred she used to bring out in other people in quite a while
either.
Bill C

Lucky for you that you don't read L'Equipe. Their headline yesterday
was: "First goal botched" referring to Longo http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/index.html

-ilan

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Bill C said:

On Sep 26, 10:34 pm, "Max Payne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Jeanie Longo is absolutely beastie!!!

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Nothing she does surprises me anymore. I haven't heard any of the
vehement hatred she used to bring out in other people in quite a while
either.
Bill C

People hated Longo because they were insecure and jealous and for nno
other legitimate reason. There was no other explanation for it -
especially when you listen to their idiotic statements. They did an
interview with Rebecca Twigg in the 1992 Olympics and she stated "we
don't care who wins so long as it's not Longo."

Then Twigg imploded in the '96 Atlanta Games and nobody ever heard of
her again. What a [censored].

Magilla

But au contraire, I was there when she competed at 1997 Collegiate
Track Nationals. It was quite amusing as she was the center of media
attention and she gave an interview saying how great it was to be in
this more laid back event and really get to know all her competitors.
In fact, she spent all her time by herself and the only time she ever
talked to us was to ask to borrow a 24" front wheel (so she could beat
our person in the pursuit) which we gave her.

-ilan

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Lucky for you that you don't read L'Equipe. Their headline yesterday
was: "First goal botched" referring to Longohttp://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/index.html

-ilan

Thanks. I haven't tried reading anything other than english in a
while, except Radsport news last night.
I can see how she said, innocently enough, that she was looking to
win 2 medals, but that definitely left her open for any shots they
take. Just the idea that, at her age, she could reasonably expect to
do that is amazing.
Bill C

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was: "First goal botched" referring to Longohttp://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/index.html

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-ilan

Thanks. I haven't tried reading anything other than english in a
while, except Radsport news last night.
I can see how she said, innocently enough, that she was looking to
win 2 medals, but that definitely left her open for any shots they
take. Just the idea that, at her age, she could reasonably expect to
do that is amazing.
Bill C

Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
the 20th century (Katarina Witt was in there) I would say that it's
more like they hate her.

-ilan

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Lucky for you that you don't read L'Equipe. Their headline yesterday
was: "First goal botched" referring to Longohttp://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/index.html
-ilan

Thanks. I haven't tried reading anything other than english in a
while, except Radsport news last night.
I can see how she said, innocently enough, that she was looking to
win 2 medals, but that definitely left her open for any shots they
take. Just the idea that, at her age, she could reasonably expect to
do that is amazing.
Bill C

Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
the 20th century (Katarina Witt was in there) I would say that it's
more like they hate her.

-ilan

It's all showbiz. No one has ever accused her of being warm and fuzzy.

Steve

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Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

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Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
the 20th century (Katarina Witt was in there) I would say that it's
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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

Leontien van Moorsel had better competition than Burton. Recall that
Leontien won worlds the last time they were in Stuttgart, so had a
pretty long career as well.

-ilan

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Lucky for you that you don't read L'Equipe. Their headline yesterday
was: "First goal botched" referring to Longo http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/index.html

Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
the 20th century (Katarina Witt was in there) I would say that it's
more like they hate her.

Yes. But also Katarina Witt was/is hot, and hotties sell
newspapers. Jeannie Longo, although she is the object
of Magilla's unrequited crush, is not as hot as Witt, thus
L'Equipe has less reason to list her.
It ain't fair, but that's sports.

Ben

P.S. So which male cyclists did they list?

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Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
the 20th century (Katarina Witt was in there) I would say that it's
more like they hate her.

Yes. But also Katarina Witt was/is hot, and hotties sell
newspapers. Jeannie Longo, although she is the object
of Magilla's unrequited crush, is not as hot as Witt, thus
L'Equipe has less reason to list her.
It ain't fair, but that's sports.

Ben

P.S. So which male cyclists did they list?

According to Wayne's World, Katarina WItt lost all her appeal with the
fall of Communism, that is, no longer being "The Forbidden Fruit." She
therefore made their Top 10 Reasons why the fall of communism was bad.

-ilan

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Given that she wasn't listed in the Equipe to 100 sports figures of
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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

Leontien van Moorsel had better competition than Burton. Recall that
Leontien won worlds the last time they were in Stuttgart, so had a
pretty long career as well.

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I think Burton was more versatile, and this site makes the point that
women's races were actually too easy for her style and strength:
http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/thebikezone/riders/berylburton.html

But you can make a solid case for Leontien too.
It's just too bad that Jeanson had those kind of performances that
were fueled by drugs. She's someone I have a lot of sympathy for due
to the totally screwed up situation she was placed into. Kinda like
that Mormon girl who's now getting her story out and some of the scum
charged and convicted. I wish that was Aubut's future, but not in
Canada, and if it was prosecuted he'd get, maybe, a hundred hours
community service.
Quite a few of Jeanson's wins came at the expense of Lyne Bessette
who I really like, especially as a person.
BIll C

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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

Yvonne Reynders won 12 medals at the woman's world championships including 4
gold medals and 2 silver medals in the road race. In the pursuit she won 3
gold medals and 3 silver medals. Ten years later, Yvonne won the nationals
and took 3rd in the World Championships.

Yvonne Reynders of Belgium..

GBMT

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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

Yvonne Reynders won 12 medals at the woman's world championships including 4
gold medals and 2 silver medals in the road race. In the pursuit she won 3
gold medals and 3 silver medals. Ten years later, Yvonne won the nationals
and took 3rd in the World Championships.

Yvonne Reynders of Belgium..

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Where's Benjo when we need him???!!!
Bill C

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The only possible reason, other than they just hate here, would be
they don't consider women cycling to be anything other than a
sideshow.
It's pretty damned easy to make the case for Edddy as the best ever,
but on the women's side, after Longo and Beryl Burton it's a long way
to the next best, and I think I've changed my mind and would put Longo
ahead of Burton.
Bill C

Yvonne Reynders won 12 medals at the woman's world championships
including 4
gold medals and 2 silver medals in the road race. In the pursuit she won
3
gold medals and 3 silver medals. Ten years later, Yvonne won the
nationals
and took 3rd in the World Championships.

Yvonne Reynders of
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Where's Benjo when we need him???!!!

You don't need me at all ... GoneBeforeMyTime knows about hundred times as
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Benjo

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Yvonne Reynders won 12 medals at the woman's world championships
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nationals
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