"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
I believe the no-show counts as the first positive. Toona is the second-strike-yer-out. But anyway, her doctor admitted publicly giving her EPO, then recanted. I can't imagine there is much doubt.
"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
Dumbass -
The way she used to flaunt it - breaking away solo every single day of a stage race . . .
I believe the no-show counts as the first positive. Toona is the second-strike-yer-out. But anyway, her doctor admitted publicly giving her EPO, then recanted. I can't imagine there is much doubt.
"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
Abut taught her to cheat, it's sad she might have been a champion without the drugs, but we'll never know if what we saw was real, or not. I think everyone knew, some of those races she looked like the bionic woman compared to the rest, it was unreal, and was.
"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
Abut taught her to cheat, it's sad she might have been a champion without the drugs, but we'll never know if what we saw was real, or not. I think everyone knew, some of those races she looked like the bionic woman compared to the rest, it was unreal, and was.
Everyone seems to think that because she was so dominant she must've been cheating, yet we forget that every so often a true phenomenon comes along (usually in the jr ranks, and continuing for awhile in the elites/pros). Think of how Lemond crushed the jr's and elite amateurs while still quite young.
Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won.
Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career.
Dumbass -
I don't.
And it's not because of "crushing" the juniors.
Riding world class women off her wheel just a few miles into a 70 mile road race. Doing that 5 days in a row. TT times in the top 10 of the men on the same course on the same day. Stuff like that.
Oh ya. And the coach. She had that same coach when she was a junior.
Even that isn't enough evidence, really, to say that someone unquestionably doped. But: repeatedly failing the hematocrit tests. There's only one logical conclusion.
On 19 Jan 2006 14:05:04 -0800, "Scott" <[email hidden]>
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Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms.
I think it was both. Teere are some top male pros that are probably doping and phenonoma too. That's what it takes. Plus a buttload of training and planning.
JT
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"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
"Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won."
That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink.
"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
"Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won."
That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink.
How would the "drugs" affect her performannce in th sack ? She is kinda cute. "Ceasar Valeroso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high
before
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Worlds 2004.
Abut taught her to cheat, it's sad she might have been a champion without the drugs, but we'll never know if what we saw was real, or not.
I
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think everyone knew, some of those races she looked like the bionic woman compared to the rest, it was unreal, and was.
"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
"Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won."
That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink.
Dumbass -
No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up).
"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Everyone seems to think that because she was so dominant she must've been cheating, yet we forget that every so often a true phenomenon comes along (usually in the jr ranks, and continuing for awhile in the elites/pros). Think of how Lemond crushed the jr's and elite amateurs while still quite young.
Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won. ///////////////////////////
You may be right but when she was a junior racer she looked 5 years older than other girls her age and had "the look" of someone really really really serious about racing.
"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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B. Lafferty said:
"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
"Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won."
That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink.
No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up).
Not even Eddy Merckx.
IF Eddy MErckx raced in the United States he would have won EVERY SINGLE race without a doubt. It was really rare that LeMond lost a race here and he was nothing near as dominant as Eddy was.
"The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004.
Hmmmm. I think I called that one too, just a bit longer ago...