John Kerry: Nice wheels

So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB, also born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, is a man of the people?

Mike Yankee

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Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB, also born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, is a man of the >people?

Why, yes, I believe that he is a fervent representer of his people:

<http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm>

Would we expect otherwise? --TP

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http://www.wonkette.com/archives/class_war_alert_014496.php

P.S. You got a problem with dropping 3K on a bike? Dude, you have no
idea...

God. To think I was going to vote based on national defense
and the rising economy. Thank God for this post which made me decide
that Kerry's bike purchase is what is important. I wonder - if John F.
Kerry-Heinz asks his rich wife for a newer bike, if she would say yes.
What a "man".

Cordially,
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(MikeYankee) said:

So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB, also born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, is a man of the people?

FWIW, GB Sr. didn't make his money until GWB was in his teens (see if
you can find a photo of GWB's boyhood home - hardly "silver spoon"
material). Of course if you're looking for a poor guy to represent
you, you're going to have to write in on this ballot.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

17-Apr-02

PHONY TO THE CORE: The "Ole Family Ranch" in Crawford is a Set Completed the
Same Day the Election was Stolen
By Cheryl Seal

Have you seen all those article and pictures of Bush "at home on the ranch"
in Crawford - the ones that imply that he is "just an ole ranch hand" more
comfortable on the family homestead than in the "Big City," be it Austin or
D.C.? Well, if you bought this image, you've been royally snuckered. The
Bush family homestead in Crawford is nothing more than an elaborate set. The
house, built in 2000, was designed to be ready for Bush to step into - like
a set awaiting an actor - during the 2000 presidential election. Not only
was the "ranch" created in 2000 - so, essentially, was the "town" of
Crawford! Before then only about 400 people lived in the area. The Crawford
Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture were formed shortly after the ranch was
finished.

The 1,600 acres on which the "ranch" sits was purchased in 1999 for an
undisclosed price, but it was a helluva lot less than the current real
estate agents' appraisal of $1.2 million. Yep, worth $1.2 million, but G.W.
has a sweet deal at the tax appraiser's office, where the property is valued
at about $988,000. Oh, and that "homey ole ranch house?" It's actually a
10,000-square-foot single level mansion/compound that won't even be 2 years
old until this November! The compound features a swimming pool for daughters
Jenna and Barbara, who apparently loudly demanded it - the Bushes call it
the girls' "Whining pool." Btw - we hear Bush got a sweet deal on the house
construction, (the cost, of course remains undisclosed): the builders came
from a religious community in El Mott, Texas. The original completion date
of the house was November 7 - election day 2000. In other words, the curtain
went up on the set on schedule for "show time." The very timing of this
event indicates that Bush was absolutely confident that the election would
be successfully engineered in his favor.

The whole idea behind the ranch set, of course, was so that the public could
be treated to footage of Bush seeking a quiet "retreat" at the family ranch.
Americans would thus assume that the ranch was a rooted family homestead or
compound like the one Kennedy's had in Martha's Vineyard or FDR had at
Campobello. But when Bush retreated into his "homestead" in November, 2000,
he was merely walking onto a prepared set upon which the paint had barely
dried, let alone even the barest of roots put down! When we see photos of
Bush bombing around the ranch in his leather jacket in his "ole pickup,"
supposedly knowing every tree and bush - it's all pure fantasy! If Bush
knows every tree and bush after actually spending, all told, a total of
about 2 months on the ranch (if you put the odd days end to end) since it
was bought, then I''d like to know when he found time to hold all those
endless Crawford press conferences! Seems to me he'd be way too busy
introducing himself to trees and bushes.

Until Bush and handlers decided that a rural ranch would be a slick bit of
PR for the presidential campaign, Bush had no interest in a "home on the
range." Instead, his preferred weekend retreat was to the Rainbo Club, an
exclusive lakeside hunting club in Henderson County, about an hour south of
Dallas, much closer to the comforts of Austin. When a Bush run for president
began to look like a pretty good bet, the 1,600 acres were bought and the
Bushes started making weekend trips to a 60-year-old ranch house that
existed on the property - not of course, before refurbishing it! - so they
could build the "lore" that would take in the American public, hook, line
and sinker.

In an interesting side note - while Bush is anti-conservation in his
presidential policies to please his corporate pals, in his OWN home, he has
installed several conservation/energy saving features, including solar
panels for heating water, rainwater collection for landscape irrigation, an
air conditioning system that uses groundwater and a gray water recycling
system. The obvious impression here is that Bush, being all PR show and no
substance or real convictions, wants to cover all the bases. Block
conservation when it is expedient, but have some conservation "stuff" to
show off when that is expedient.

So, in short, we have a "president" who, ON THE SAME DAY - November 7,
2000 - stole an election and had the last nail driven into a phony ranch
set. But with a completely snuckered press corps, we also have had a
completely snuckered public. And a platoon of completely snuckered world
leaders, chief among them Blair and Putin, who have been hosted at the "ole
ranch" set and completely taken in. Alas, the Crawford ranch is a symbol of
the utter corporate phoniness of this administration. The whole scenario
reminds me of those type of sophisticated con artists (like the ones who
recently convinced several investors they could turn sand into gold! ) who
blow into town, rent an upscale office space just long enough to give them
enough credibility to hoodwink investors. Then, once they have fleeced
enough "marks," they disappear. What makes the Bush case much, much worse is
that I doubt he will disappear.

Additional Notes on "Rancho Boguso" from Bonafide Texans

Apparently Rancho Boguso has done time not just as a small-time cattle ranch
but was once a pig farm as well! And those horses you see in photos? Window
dressing only - Bush can't ride!!!

Read with interest your article at Democrats.com. Being from Waco I know
well what you say. Crawford first of all is closer to Waco than the Branch
Davidian Compound but this is never said.

For your information Bush was just given a saddle as a gift that is now on
tour around the state. This saddle is of NO use to him since he does't ride
horses. Ask Vincinte Fox - who wanted him to go riding on Bush's trip to
Mexico.

Another fact is that he doesn't own any of the cattle on his "ranch". They
are the cattle of the previous owner, who helps run the "Movie Set". He's a
cowboy with more hat than cattle.

"MikeYankee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB, also born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, is a man of the people?

Mike Yankee

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FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you and Rush
are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's great-grandfathers,
George Herbert Walker and Samuel Bush, both of whom were financiers, and
both of who profited vastly from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles about the
Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and his war
profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-called
"military-industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.

What we have as President is a dumb [censored] pretender who, despite every single
privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver platter, still
has proven unable to run a single business profitably, and is now on the
verge of bankrupting and [censored] up this country in ways never before
imaginable.

A man of the people. You got to be [censored] kidding! This guy is living
testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance taxes! Without
his family foirtune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense intended to Sears
employees). He belongs there.

This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting Republican is easier
than thinking!"

[censored] Bush, and [censored] Shrub too!

Doug said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you and
Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!
The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's great-
grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel Bush, both of whom were
financiers, and both of who profited vastly from rearmament after WWI.
Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles about
the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and his war
profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-called "military-
industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver platter,
still has proven unable to run a single business profitably, and is
now on the
imaginable.
testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance taxes!
Without his family foirtune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales
clerk in the sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense
intended to Sears employees). He belongs there.
This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting Republican is
easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and dropped a few
sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it through the keyboard again?

Carl Fogel

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Doug Taylor said:

Kyle.B.H said:

Doug,

Howard Dean is out of the race, you can calm down now.

Kyle:

Your mixing me up with the other Doug. I guess that shows that George
Bush is not the only dimwit in the world, eh?

Read the threads carefully before posting and making a fool out of
yourself, why don't you?

He replied directly to your comment (albeit top-posting, which does make it
harder to follow), so why do you say he's mixing you up with the other Doug?

Bill "read the thread carefully and think you're off here" S.

S o r n i said:

He replied directly to your comment (albeit top-posting, which does make it
harder to follow), so why do you say he's mixing you up with the other Doug?

Bill "read the thread carefully and think you're off here" S.

Because my post, accusing Dubya of liking dress-up, was not a "Howard
Dean" rant. In contrast, the other Doug has been catching flack in
this thread (read through it again, eh?) for going over the top.
Hence, because the response to my post appeared to be a non sequitur,
I assumed the guy must have mixed us up.

Then again, he could be just dense, like the President.

--dt

Does your news server perhaps edit out "offensive" language? Or perhaps do
you use child protection software that filters "obscenities"?

The lines that you appear unable to read included expletives. My language
might have been "inappropriate" or "over-the-top," but the message
otherwise was not incoherent.

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O.K. I got carried away! But I was actually reserved in my comments.
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> FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you
> and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again! The Bush family

fortune

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> was started by George
> W. Bush's great- grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel
> Bush, both of whom

were

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> financiers, and both of who profited vastly from rearmament

after

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WWI.

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> Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles
> about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and
> his war profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-
> called "military- industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
> privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver
> platter, still has proven unable to run a single business
> profitably, and is now on the imaginable. testament to the fact
> that we should have huge inheritance taxes! Without his family
> foirtune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
> sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense intended

to

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> Sears employees). He belongs there. This "President" simply

proves

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> the adage that "voting Republican is easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and dropped a few
sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it through the keyboard

again?

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Carl Fogel
--

Dear Doug,

I take it that you have no idea what you meant to say where things break
down at "now on the imaginable. testament"?

Carl Fogel

--

As you requested:

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles about the
Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and his war
profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-called
"military-industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.

What we have as President is a dumb *$%& pretender who, despite every
single privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver platter,
still has proven unable to run a single business profitably, and is now on
the verge of bankrupting and *&^%*&^ up this country in ways never before
imaginable.

A man of the people. You got to be **#$%^& kidding! This guy is living
testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance taxes! Without
his family fortune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense intended to Sears
employees). He belongs there.

This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting Republican is easier
than thinking!"

*&%$ Bush, and*&%$ Shrub too!

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Doug said:

O.K. I got carried away! But I was actually reserved in my comments.
;->
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Doug wrote:
> FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you
> and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again! The Bush family

fortune

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> was started by George
> W. Bush's great- grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel
> Bush, both of whom

were

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> financiers, and both of who profited vastly from rearmament

after

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WWI.

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> Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles
> about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and
> his war profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-
> called "military- industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
> privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver
> platter, still has proven unable to run a single business
> profitably, and is now on the imaginable. testament to the fact
> that we should have huge inheritance taxes! Without his family
> foirtune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
> sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense intended

to

Quoted message said:

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> Sears employees). He belongs there. This "President" simply

proves

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> the adage that "voting Republican is easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and dropped a few
sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it through the keyboard

again?

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Carl Fogel
--

Dear Doug,

I take it that you have no idea what you meant to say where things break
down at "now on the imaginable. testament"?

Carl Fogel

--

Doug said:

As you requested:
Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to articles about
the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to the Nazi' and his war
profiteering, and the Bush family' links with the so-called "military-
industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
What we have as President is a dumb *$%& pretender who, despite every
single privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver
platter, still has proven unable to run a single business profitably,
and is now on the verge of bankrupting and *&^%*&^ up this country in
ways never before imaginable.
A man of the people. You got to be **#$%^& kidding! This guy is living
testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance taxes!
Without his family fortune, Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales
clerk in the sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense
intended to Sears employees). He belongs there.
This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting Republican is
easier than thinking!"
*&%$ Bush, and*&%$ Shrub too!
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> > family

fortune

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> > was started by George
> > W. Bush's great- grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and
> > Samuel Bush, both of whom
were
> > financiers, and both of who profited vastly from rearmament

after

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WWI.
> > Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
> > articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to
> > the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush family'
> > links with the so- called "military- industrial" complex,
> > not to mention Bin Laden. privilege and advantage having
> > been given to him on a silver platter, still has proven
> > unable to run a single business profitably, and is now on
> > the imaginable. testament to the fact that we should have
> > huge inheritance taxes! Without his family foirtune, Shrub
> > would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the sporting
> > goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense intended

to

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> > Sears employees). He belongs there. This "President" simply

proves

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> > the adage that "voting Republican is easier than thinking!"
>
>
>
> Dear Doug,
>
> After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and dropped a
> few sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it through the
> keyboard

again?

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> Carl Fogel
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Dear Doug,

I take it that you have no idea what you meant to say where things
break down at "now on the imaginable. testament"?

Carl Fogel

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Dear Doug,

Shucks, here I thought something intelligent might have been removed.

Carl Fogel

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So what? I don't know if any of this is even true, but I don't recall
anyone trying to claim Bush was a "rancher" before becoming president.
Maybe I missed that in his resume? And it does seem fairly
appropriate that the best place to set up a homestead once you DO
become president is someplace remote - not in a "quiet working class
neighborhood".

And she even misspelled "snookered". Harumph.

Yep, nobody claimed Bush was a rancher. The Bush administration seldom
lies, they imply. They imply that Bush is a rancher, they imply that
they can have a huge taxcut and keep the budget balanced, they imply
that there are WMD and that Iraq was connected to 9/11. But in the end
their implications are as good as lies and our troops are now sitting
in Iraq in a [censored] of trouble, three dozen killed in about three
days, almost 650 since the start of the war, because of what Bush
"implied".

So don't give me that [censored] that nobody claimed he was a rancher. We
know what he and his gang did. There is a connection between the myth
of George Bush the Cowboy and the myth of the threat of Iraqi WMD. The
people who make up these stories don't care who gets hurt as long as
their political objectives are met, and our troops are dying for it.

JP
6th generation Texan not bothered by the smell of cowshit as long as
you don't try to imply it's something finer.

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Does your news server perhaps edit out "offensive" language?

Mine edits out moronic top posters. I switched to my backup to read this
thread.

Greg

(JP) said:

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So what? I don't know if any of this is even true, but I don't
recall anyone trying to claim Bush was a "rancher" before becoming
president. Maybe I missed that in his resume? And it does seem
fairly appropriate that the best place to set up a homestead once
you DO become president is someplace remote - not in a "quiet
working class neighborhood".

And she even misspelled "snookered". Harumph.

Yep, nobody claimed Bush was a rancher. The Bush administration
seldom lies, they imply.

These are lies of the second kind, and all politicians on either side
of the aisle use them frequently. While I dislike Bush intensely and
will dance in the streets if by some miracle he is defeated in
November, I hope I can retain enough objectivity to recognize that
both the Democrats and the Republicans engage in despicable behavior
regularly.

Perhaps you want to elaborate? I take it that you believe that I am somehow
top-posting? That is news to me.

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Does your news server perhaps edit out "offensive" language?

Mine edits out moronic top posters. I switched to my backup to read this
thread.

Greg

Makes sense to me; I'm retired on SS and ride a $1,000 bike.

(Appkiller) said:

C'mon, the reason the guy was a clerk is 'cuz everyone knew he was a
little short in the head and liked to drink A LOT.

Blah, blah, blah.

It's kinda funny don't you think?

Those who are taking issues with Kerry generally state specific
actions, quotes and voting records.

Those who are taking issue with Bush figure foaming at the mouth and
spewing vindictives will make their point sufficiently. It does make
the point, but probably not the one you intend.

Oh and BTW, the sailors aboard that boat put up the "Mission
Accomplished" sign.. you should take it up with them.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

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I am shocked every time I hear someone I regard as a real cyclist
saying anything in support of "the environment will fix itself no
matter what I do" Dumbya.

Read this 41 page report and be very afraid and very angry. Bush
doesn't care about our kids (no child left behind, unless, of course,
it costs money), he doesn't care about water or air quality, in fact,
I don't think he cares about anything unless he's told to.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_environment/rsi/page.cfm?pageID=1322

Get with the program and engage your brain - the triumvirate of pure
evil (dumbya, cheney, rove) is motivated by greed and
supported/enabled by stupidity. Have you paid attention to what they
have been doing or have you been too busy wondering why the sign said
"Mission Accomplished" but our kids keep dying?

And how about that brilliant exit strategy - "we have a date but no
plan and we don't know who we're gonna transfer power to but we're too
busy thinking up lies about Kerry to worry about that". Damn fine
strategery.

Nice economy and deficit too. Nice jokes about WMD (hey, Brit Hume,
screw you, you unfeeling [censored]).

dumbya only is president because big business and the supremes put him
there. He only got into an ivy league college 'cuz daddy put him
there. He only got into the Guard 'cuz daddy put him there. The only
thing that he has brought to the table is his checkered past and
minimal intellectual function, which, I guess, made him a perfect
mannequin for the cheney/rove moron management team.

I can see it:

r: "No, George, its nu-ku-lar. Say it."

b: "But Karl, all the smart people say nu-cle-ar."

r: "Now, George, you know that you aren't smart and we don't like
pretenders. Plus, if you sound like the idiot you are, the public
won't be put off by your feigned ability to think, speak and
understand at a level beyond their own."

b: "Yes Karl - hey, can I have that beer now?"

r: "No, George, remember, we told everyone you gave that up. And no
more pretzels!"

<Cheney walks in>

c: "Got him trained yet?"

b: "Yeah, Karl, am I trained yet? Hey, I gotta make wee-wee." <bumps
his head on lamp as he leaves> "Doh."

Holy [censored], this guy just blows the lid right off the old Peter
Principle. But maybe I misunderestimate him. Make the pie higher!
Put food on your family!

App, who is looking forward to Bush trying to run for a third term on
the grounds that he didn't really win the first time.

Jaguarundi said:

Could you post a link to a photo of the Prescott Bush's family home? Thx.

I was hoping that some of the Bush-bashers would do some real research
for a change, but just to keep it simple...

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you George W. "Silver Spoon in Mouth"
Bush's boyhood mansion:

http://www.midland-texas.com/midland-texas-george-w-bush.htm

Those who might question why he decided to build a new house in 2000
might do well to remember that he was living in the Texas governor's
mansion until then...

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame