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John Moore - two more thoughts

Layne Wallace · 2003-10-17T04:54:13+00:00

I should have mentioned one of these earlier but I would have ruined my status as poster boy for Altz. Several of us have implied this but I thought it would be a good idea to state it more directly. Most distance running events have an element (a rather major element) of energy management. All the talk of starting out slow, not talking it up with the other runners, etc. was geared toward efficient and effective use of energy. Here's the point: heart rate is related to energy expenditure. The higher the heart rate, the more energy you're expending. For a marathon under the conditions you find yourself, a high heart rate is a very bad thing. If you can, you might want to try a run where you keep your heart rate as low as possible. I'm not suggesting that you try a Zen thing and become one with the rocks (or Keith Richards, which ever is easier) but you might want to keep a cool tool. In training, some runs are good at a high heart rate but you're in a strange situation - particularly if you're trying to become one with Keith Richards. The other suggestion is to check out the race/event archives at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running The 30-49K section will have reports that are directly related to what you'll be doing. The other sections have some interesting reports, too. OK, OK, here's a freebie. To get properly inspired, watch Porky's, Super Troopers, and Young Frankenstein several times back to back. Your brain should be mush by that time and you'll be properly prepared for the task ahead. You'll note that these movies don't have much in the way of, er, intimate stimulation. This is something you *really* don't want to think about during the event. Once you have a chance to get some good training, thinking about that stuff is fine but during this first attempt it will just make you blind. Good luck, Layne ------------------------------------------------------- The rec.running report archives may be found at http://kinder.cis.unf.edu/rec.running

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Layne Wallace
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17 October 2003, 04:54 UTC #1

I should have mentioned one of these earlier but I would have ruined my status as poster
boy for Altz.
Several of us have implied this but I thought it would be a good idea to state it more directly.
Most distance running events have an element (a rather major element) of energy management. All the
talk of starting out slow, not talking it up with the other runners, etc. was geared toward
efficient and effective use of energy. Here's the point: heart rate is related to energy
expenditure. The higher the heart rate, the more energy you're expending. For a marathon under the
conditions you find yourself, a high heart rate is a very bad thing. If you can, you might want to
try a run where you keep your heart rate as low as possible. I'm not suggesting that you try a Zen
thing and become one with the rocks (or Keith Richards, which ever is easier) but you might want to
keep a cool tool. In training, some runs are good at a high heart rate but you're in a strange
situation - particularly if you're trying to become one with Keith Richards.
The other suggestion is to check out the race/event archives at
kinder.cis.unf.edurec.running
The 30-49K section will have reports that are directly related to what you'll be doing. The other
sections have some interesting reports, too.
OK, OK, here's a freebie. To get properly inspired, watch Porky's, Super Troopers, and Young
Frankenstein several times back to back. Your brain should be mush by that time and you'll be
properly prepared for the task ahead. You'll note that these movies don't have much in the way of,
er, intimate stimulation. This is something you *really* don't want to think about during the event.
Once you have a chance to get some good training, thinking about that stuff is fine but during this
first attempt it will just make you blind.
Good luck, Layne
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The rec.running report archives may be found at kinder.cis.unf.edurec.running

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Globaldisc
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17 October 2003, 14:55 UTC #2

Layne... Gee...thanks for the freebie....but please tell me what is the rambling you're doing all
about? ya know that's twice now in about the span of a month that with no solicitation you've
encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that layne? curious...

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Apusapus
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17 October 2003, 14:55 UTC #3

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that with no solicitation you've encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that layne?
curious...
At the risk of being thought an ill-informed klutz, what is "Porky's"?
Roger.

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Tbr
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17 October 2003, 15:56 UTC #4

apusapus said:
"Globaldisc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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that with no solicitation you've encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that
layne? curious...
At the risk of being thought an ill-informed klutz, what is "Porky's"?
guy. Shortly thereafter they made a movie about it.

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Layne Wallace
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17 October 2003, 17:55 UTC #5

Globaldisc said:
Layne... Gee...thanks for the freebie....but please tell me what is the rambling you're doing all
about? ya know that's twice now in about the span of a month that with no solicitation you've
encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that layne? curious...

:-) Hmm. Ya know, Andrew, I think you're on to something. I mentally grabbed
the first two movies that need chemical intervention to really appreciate and then added a classic
for the third movie. I'll definitely need to spend some time during the next run to deal with my
Porky's problem. IIRC, there is some "distance" running in Porky's so maybe there is some sort of
weird Adlerian running thing happening. This may take more than one run.
Thanks! Layne
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Layne Wallace
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17 October 2003, 17:55 UTC #6

apusapus said:
"Globaldisc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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that with no solicitation you've encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that
layne? curious...
At the risk of being thought an ill-informed klutz, what is "Porky's"?

Not ill-informed at all. Just shows you've been running while others of us were rotting our brains
(potentially in more than one way). Porky's is pubescent male view of an idealized coming of age
film guarenteed to temporarily (hopefully) remove 40-50 IQ points from males while totally boring
most females. Naturally, there were numerous sequels. There is one streaking scene where one gets
the impression that the distance was at least a mile.
Layne
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Layne Wallace
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17 October 2003, 18:29 UTC #7

TBR said:
apusapus said:
"Globaldisc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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that with no solicitation you've encouraged the ng to watch, "Porky's"? what's up with that
layne? curious...
At the risk of being thought an ill-informed klutz, what is "Porky's"?
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guy. Shortly thereafter they made a movie about it.

I may be wrong, Bill, but aren't you thinking about that classic comedy loved by all rural hill
people - Deliverance? I suppose it could be motivational for a marathon, though, depending on where
one is running and whether the goal was getting a good time or having a good time. When you come
down to do a Florida run, I'll introduce to some motivators, if you wish. :-)
Layne
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