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  1. Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph

    Simplicity can be beautiful!

    BobT

  3. you fortunate!
    nice recovery!
    what did a 1986 Benotto cost?

  4. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph

    Fantastic pearl white Powdercoat. Who did that and what did they do
    for how much?
    Bike looks great!

    Thanks

  5. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph

    Sexeee.

  6. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    Gorgeous! Man that must feel great. I got a couple bikes I kick myself
    for getting rid of as well. Heh, that Benotto bar tape brings back
    memories. It wasn't very comfy, but it sure looked spangly and fresh
    compared to the dowdy cloth alternative. 25mm NOS tubs?? Slot cleats
    for what I'm assuming are 12+ feet? Crazy!

  7. ddog said:

    On Mar 6, 5:03 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a pic:

    Quoted message said:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    Quoted message said:

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    Quoted message said:

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    Quoted message said:

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Quoted message said:

    Here's the spec:

    Quoted message said:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    Quoted message said:

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    Fantastic pearl white Powdercoat. Who did that and what did they do
    for how much?
    Bike looks great!

    Thanks

    It's not powdercoat, it's water based (as I understand it) paint
    partially because that was what was easily available, partially
    because I wanted details like the Campagnolo text on the dropouts to
    remain visible. I live in Norway. A local maritime shop bead blasted
    it for $70, and the body shop primed it, I sanded it, and then the
    body shop painted and clearcoated for $100.

    Joseph

  8. Quoted message said:

    you fortunate!
    nice recovery!
    what did a 1986 Benotto cost?

    I think it was about $400. I went into the shop at least 50 times to
    drool over it before I scraped up the money!

    Joseph

  9. landotter said:

    On Mar 6, 4:03 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a pic:

    Quoted message said:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    Gorgeous! Man that must feel great. I got a couple bikes I kick myself
    for getting rid of as well. Heh, that Benotto bar tape brings back
    memories. It wasn't very comfy, but it sure looked spangly and fresh
    compared to the dowdy cloth alternative. 25mm NOS tubs?? Slot cleats
    for what I'm assuming are 12+ feet? Crazy!

    The tires are new. From Challenge:

    http://www.challengetech.it/strada.php

    Size 15 US. The narrow cage of track pedals makes the straps pinch too
    much if they are tight enough to be useful. Road cages work out fine.
    Have to use old shoes though. My modern road shoes don't fit on the
    pedals nor in the toeclips.

    The Benotto tape sure looks sweet in white with the white pearl paint.
    cheap too!

    Joseph

  10. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph


    looks sweet! but why the road fork?

  11. jim beam said:

    looks sweet! but why the road fork?

    I'm certainly no expert in such things, but looking at the tight
    clearance and the shallow rake, it looks 100% track to my amateur
    eyes. I'm guessing it was drilled for a brake at some point. Must have
    been a scary tight fit.

  12. landotter said:
    jim beam said:

    looks sweet! but why the road fork?

    I'm certainly no expert in such things, but looking at the tight
    clearance and the shallow rake, it looks 100% track to my amateur
    eyes. I'm guessing it was drilled for a brake at some point. Must have
    been a scary tight fit.

    It is the original fork that came with the bike in '86. Hard to
    measure, but the rake is between 25-30mm, so that is pretty track
    specific, but the blades are oval, and the crown is drilled from the
    factory. Who knows!

    Joseph

  13. Quoted message said:
    landotter said:
    jim beam said:

    looks sweet! but why the road fork?


    I'm certainly no expert in such things, but looking at the tight
    clearance and the shallow rake, it looks 100% track to my amateur
    eyes. I'm guessing it was drilled for a brake at some point. Must have
    been a scary tight fit.

    It is the original fork that came with the bike in '86. Hard to
    measure, but the rake is between 25-30mm, so that is pretty track
    specific, but the blades are oval, and the crown is drilled from the
    factory. Who knows!

    Joseph


    when i was a club rider at about that time, short rake forks and steep
    head tubes were quite popular on time trial machines.

    if this were my steed, i'd look for a "traditional" track fork, i.e.
    undrilled, round blades. it would be the final touch.

  14. drove the price up!

  15. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Here's a pic:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Here's the spec:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Joseph

    Very nice bike, Joseph, you've done a great job there.

    Have you thought about adding it to:-

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/

    Kind regards.

    Lewis.

    *****

  16. Quoted post said:

    On Mar 6, 4:03 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    I just tightened the last bolt on my project bike I've been working on
    over the winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a pic:

    Quoted message said:

    http://arbitrary.org/benotto.JPG

    Quoted message said:

    In 1986 I bought a Benotto track bike from Stuyvesant Bikes in NYC. It
    was white and red and had white painted/powdercoated Gipiemme
    components. I tooled around with it in NYC and then Chicago for a few
    years, but as my interest in cycling waned, I let the bike get away
    from me around 1990.

    Quoted message said:

    As the years past and I got back into cycling I often thought about
    how much I liked that bike and how dumb it was to let it get away from
    me. So I decided to recreate it. Scouring eBay one day I came across
    some rather special Fiamme pista bars and stem that were just like the
    ones I used to have. Thinking maybe the seller had a similar bike and
    maybe was selling the white Gipiemme stuff, I asked. Sure enough it
    had come from a Benotto, but he had sold the other parts long ago. A
    little back and forth and I realized that not only was it just like my
    old bike, it WAS my old bike. (He also had an old funny bike of mine,
    so there was no doubt.) He was just using it as an everyday bike, and
    had no particular attachemnt to it, so he was very cool about
    negotiating it's return. Good karma getting reunited with my all time
    favorite bike 20 years after I first bought it!

    Quoted message said:

    It had spend many years in a damp basement, and had some nasty rust
    around the bottom bracket, so I got it bead-blasted and a friend at a
    car body place sprayed it for me. Not a show winner, but it sure looks
    nice to me. I've got some NOS Benotto decals, but I like it clean for
    now.

    Quoted message said:

    Here's the spec:

    Quoted message said:

    Mexican Columbus Zeta Benotto with Campy dropouts
    NOS Ambrosio Synthesis rims
    Gipiemme 36h Pista hubs
    DT 14g spokes
    Challenge Strada 25mm tires
    Gipiemme Crono Special Pista crank w/ 46t chainring
    Gipiemme Special bb
    Miche nickel chain (lubed with hot wax to keep things clean)
    NOS Gipiemme Sprint Special pedals (non-track. My feet are too wide
    for track pedals.)
    NOS Ale Torino steel XL toeclips
    NOS Prisma laminated double straps
    the Fiamme bar and stem that started it all!
    NOS Benotto bar tape
    NOS Milremo bar plugs
    NOS Turbo saddle
    Gipiemme fluted seatpost
    NOS Gipiemme headset

    Quoted message said:

    And I've got some nice NOS Duegi old-school shoes just waiting for
    spring time. Sweet!

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    Very nice bike, Joseph, you've done a great job there.

    Have you thought about adding it to:-

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/

    Kind regards.

    Lewis.

    *****

    Soon as I take some nice pics!

    Joseph

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