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  1. Interesting story in today's local newspaper. It's nice to know that at
    least one badly behaved motorist got what he had coming, although I'd like
    to see him lose his license for a long while. I've scanned it for people who
    don't want to register to the newspaper's website. For those who do follow
    the link, there's a provision to comment on the story at the end of the
    article, as I did.
    http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20051112/NEWS/111120036

    --
    mark

    November 13, 2005

    A 'breakdown of common sense'

    BY SHAUNA FARNELL
    eagle county correspondent
    November 12, 2005

    VAIL - Not many cases of motorist versus cyclist make it to
    court. But not many end in a woman getting punched in the face.

    David Matthews of Black Forest pleaded guilty Monday to assault
    and battery in a July 9 incident that occurred in East Vail during the
    Triple Bypass bicycle race from Evergreen to Avon.

    Pam Zaske was coming down Vail Pass into East Vail as it was
    raining around 6 p.m. on July 9, and was riding on Big Horn Road going about
    35 mph, when Matthews pulled up next to her in his Lexus SUV.

    "I was staying very close to the white line, but I made a
    conscious decision that I didn't want to be crossing in and out of it
    because it was slick," Zaske said. "He came up behind me with his vehicle.
    He honked his horn. He slowed down and stayed right at my side. He made
    three distinct movements, closer to me and closer to me. I was doing what I
    could to slow down and stay away from that line and not crash."

    Matthews continued after Zaske slowed down, and she saw his car
    pull a U-turn down the road and park in a dirt lot facing the oncoming
    cyclists. She rode up to his car, motioned for him to roll down his window.
    When he did, she began telling him how dangerous his actions were.

    "I probably got four words out, when he blew up at me and
    started yelling," she said.

    A short screaming match ensued, and when Zaske went to leave,
    Matthews grabbed her jacket with one hand and punched her in the jaw with
    the other. Matthews then drove away to a party he was attending in East Vail
    with his mother and two boys - aged 9 and 12 - who were also in the car.
    Zaske called the police, who found his vehicle shortly thereafter and
    arrested him.

    Zaske had been riding for 12 hours and it was her third Triple
    Bypass race. A long-time cyclist, she does several charity races and rides.
    While occasionally having people yell out their car windows and honk, she
    had never had a problem sharing the road with motorists until her encounter
    with Matthews.

    "I know there are some gonzo cyclists out there who ride three
    or four-abreast. I'm not one of those," she said. "It's too bad there are
    these people who just perpetuate the conflict and the stereotype."

    Sorry for the hit

    Matthews expressed remorse in the Vail Municipal Court last
    Monday.

    "I knew instantaneously," he said. "My son came and said,
    'Daddy, there are some police outside looking for you.' I knew I acted
    poorly. I deeply apologize."

    Zaske said that she was told it would be difficult to charge
    Matthews with reckless driving because it would be difficult to prove, thus,
    she and Vail city attorney John Clune compiled a plea bargain for Matthews,
    wherein he agreed to work alongside the Vail Police Department doing traffic
    control for the Courage Classic cycling event in 2006 as well as donate $250
    to the event, which is a fundraiser for Children's Hospital in Denver.
    Matthews was also required to write a Letter to the Editor apologizing for
    his behavior, as well as write an apology letter to Zaske as well.

    Judge Buck Allen asked Zaske, who broke down during Monday's
    sentencing as she spoke about how afraid she was for her life when Matthews
    was driving so close to her, for her input as to whether or not she wanted
    to see him go to jail. Zaske left the decision up to Allen's discretion.

    "When you're passing a cyclist on the road, every bit of common
    sense in the world tells you to give them a wide berth," Allen told Matthews
    in court Monday. "When the weather is bad, you give them a wider berth. If
    you run over a bicyclist, you have to clean up a mess. The bicyclist is
    either maimed or dead."

    Matthews said that he was under a great deal of stress at the
    time, having just made a decision to take his ailing father off of life
    support. His attorney Paul Dunkelman pointed out that the entire incident
    could be, from Matthews' end of things, assessed as "a breakdown of common
    sense."

    "In addition to the plea bargain agreement, Allen sentenced
    Matthews to 18 sessions of counseling and a fine of $1,305, $120 of which is
    restitution for Zaske's medical expenses, which included a visit to the
    dentist for her swollen jaw and sleeping pills.

    "Every time I'd lay down to sleep, my pulse would race," Zaske
    said. "My mind would replay the incident."

    The bigger issue

    Zaske said that being punched was traumatizing, but more
    traumatizing was what might have resulted from Matthews' actions in his car
    while she was riding her bike, which, she said, is the larger issue.

    Clune said that his report showed that during Matthews' booking
    he made a comment to the attending police officer to the effect of, "Hasn't
    a cyclist ever done anything to make you mad?"

    "There seems to be a growing issue of animosity between a small
    group of cyclists and a small group of motorists," Clune said, adding that
    when the case first presented itself, there was no question that it should
    call for jail time, but now that the sentencing process has started, the
    trauma of the event has subsided through time.

    Matthews never admitted that he deliberately tried to steer
    Zaske off the road in his car.

    "I agree that we all have to share the roads," he said. "I don't
    have a problem with that. I had no intentions of running anyone off the
    road. I'm not that type of person. I was just a little beside myself. I
    would never want to see (Zaske) or anyone else hurt."

    Matthews also pointed out that before Monday, he had never been
    to court.

    "I doubt it was accidental," Allen said of the driving incident.
    "A Lexus SUV is a big, heavy truck. Any time you have car vs. bike, the bike
    never wins."

    Allen also said he wasn't entirely convinced by Matthews' story
    that he had stopped down the road so his mother could make a phone call.

    "That's one explanation," Allen said. "There are certainly
    darker explanations."

    At the end of the sentencing Allen told Matthews that he came
    very close to being sent to jail. Matthews said, "I've learned my lesson,"
    but declined to comment further to the Vail Daily. Zaske said while she was
    pleased that it was over and she was pleased that the judge understood the
    gravity of the motorist vs. cyclist aspect of the case, she wondered if a
    few days in jail, or a sentence wherein Matthews would have to spend several
    hours on a bicycle sharing the road with motorists, wouldn't have been an
    additional learning tool.

    "He still kind of denies that it was an intentional portion on
    the bike," she said. "But it wasn't my place to say he needs to go to jail.
    I was happy to see the turn of the focus to the bicycling portion, which is
    what I've been saying the whole time. I'm glad it's over."

  2. I did not intend to post this with an attachment (the attachment is some
    color graphics that add nothing to the post) , this happened accidentally
    because of my own lack of computer skills. Apologies to anyone who I
    inconvenienced or annoyed with the attachment.
    --
    mark

  3. A) The guy is an [censored] for tailgating a cyclist in the rain.
    B) The woman is really stupid for confronting an obvious [censored].
    C) The guy is a SUPER [censored] for punching a woman.
    D) If this was my wife, mother, or girlfriend, the guy would be picking up
    his teeth.
    E) I'll bet he wouldn't have done the same to a biker on a Harley.

  4. Gooserider said:

    A) The guy is an [censored] for tailgating a cyclist in the rain.
    B) The woman is really stupid for confronting an obvious [censored].
    C) The guy is a SUPER [censored] for punching a woman.
    D) If this was my wife, mother, or girlfriend, the guy would be picking up
    his teeth.
    E) I'll bet he wouldn't have done the same to a biker on a Harley.

    F) She is not too bright for having descended at 35 mph close to the
    white line.

    G) She is not too bright for attempting to implicate other bicyclists
    for riding abreast and precipitating motorist hostility.

    Wayne

  5. "Gooserider" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    A) The guy is an [censored] for tailgating a cyclist in the rain.
    B) The woman is really stupid for confronting an obvious [censored].

    Bad tactics on her part, I agree. In her defense, East Vail is a very
    well-to-do semi-rural area. Many people would not expect someone driving an
    expensive SUV in an expensive neighborhood to behave quite so stupidly.

    Quoted message said:

    C) The guy is a SUPER [censored] for punching a woman.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    D) If this was my wife, mother, or girlfriend, the guy would be picking up
    his teeth.
    E) I'll bet he wouldn't have done the same to a biker on a Harley.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:


  6. "mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Gooserider" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    A) The guy is an [censored] for tailgating a cyclist in the rain.
    B) The woman is really stupid for confronting an obvious [censored].

    Bad tactics on her part, I agree. In her defense, East Vail is a very
    well-to-do semi-rural area. Many people would not expect someone driving
    an expensive SUV in an expensive neighborhood to behave quite so stupidly.

    Maybe it's just me, but when I see a man in an SUV I automatically assume he
    has security issues. I wouldn't have approached him, and I lift weights and
    know how to fight. This woman was nuts.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    C) The guy is a SUPER [censored] for punching a woman.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    D) If this was my wife, mother, or girlfriend, the guy would be picking
    up his teeth.
    E) I'll bet he wouldn't have done the same to a biker on a Harley.

    Agreed.

    The Harley rider likely would have shot him.

  7. "Gooserider" wrote: (clip) I wouldn't have approached him, and I lift
    weights and know how to fight. This woman was nuts.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Women have a sort of social immunity to being punched, and she was probably,
    at some level, expecting that to protect her. This particular ass-hole is
    probably an abuser at home also. Or maybe he has a wife who is bigger thqn
    he is, and had to find an outlet.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    (clip) The Harley rider likely would have shot him(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I assume you're only half kidding. MOST Harley riders are just other
    people. I'll bet there are some Harley riders IN THIS GROUP.

  8. "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Gooserider" wrote: (clip) I wouldn't have approached him, and I lift
    weights and know how to fight. This woman was nuts.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Women have a sort of social immunity to being punched, and she was
    probably, at some level, expecting that to protect her. This particular
    ass-hole is probably an abuser at home also. Or maybe he has a wife who
    is bigger thqn he is, and had to find an outlet.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    (clip) The Harley rider likely would have shot him(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I assume you're only half kidding. MOST Harley riders are just other
    people. I'll bet there are some Harley riders IN THIS GROUP.


    Yes, half kidding. There are lots of badass guys who ride Harleys, and you
    cannot deny this. I regularly see Pagans and Banditos where I live, and
    those guys WOULD have shot him.

  9. mark said:

    Interesting story in today's local newspaper. It's nice to know that at
    least one badly behaved motorist got what he had coming, although I'd like
    to see him lose his license for a long while. I've scanned it for people who
    don't want to register to the newspaper's website. For those who do follow
    the link, there's a provision to comment on the story at the end of the
    article, as I did.
    http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20051112/NEWS/111120036

    I've heard so many defendants offer so many excuses for their actions
    that I've *known* were lies that perhaps I'm overly cynical but
    Matthews is very lucky I wasn't sentencing him. The statements of
    defendants at sentencing are almost invariably self-serving but perhaps
    his weren't. Forget about the driving and look at what he said about
    the battery, either personally or through his attorney.

    1- His mother and two pre-teenaged sons were present when he punched
    out a female for presumably yelling at him.

    I'd have given him jail time just for this.

    2- He had "just made a decision to take his ailing father off of life
    support".
    3- They were all headed to a party.

    Am I reading this right? A party? What is this? Was he celebrating dear
    old Dad's impending death or since he was arrested at a party did he
    decide to throw this in to try to muddy the waters and maybe drum up
    some sympathy? I'd add six months to his sentence just for insulting
    the court with such a transparently self-serving statement.

    4- He stopped only to allow his mother to make a phone call.

    Maybe I'm wrong but he was driving a Lexus so I'd guess that was a
    *cellular* phone Mom was using. Maybe Mom couldn't manage the tiny
    little numbers on that phone so he stopped to help her dial the liquor
    store to order booze for the party. What a good son!

    As for his, "I knew instantaneously. My son came and said, 'Daddy,
    there are some police outside looking for you.' I knew I acted poorly.
    I deeply apologize.", I've heard this one so many times that I'm sure I
    have it right. What it really says is, "I knew I'd been caught." That's
    not remorse over his action. It's regret that he didn't get away with
    his action. Tack on a little more jail time.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  10. Bob said:
    mark said:

    Interesting story in today's local newspaper. It's nice to know that
    at least one badly behaved motorist got what he had coming, although
    I'd like to see him lose his license for a long while. I've scanned
    it for people who don't want to register to the newspaper's website.
    For those who do follow the link, there's a provision to comment on
    the story at the end of the article, as I did.
    http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20051112/NEWS/111120036

    I've heard so many defendants offer so many excuses for their actions
    that I've *known* were lies that perhaps I'm overly cynical but
    Matthews is very lucky I wasn't sentencing him. The statements of
    defendants at sentencing are almost invariably self-serving but
    perhaps his weren't. Forget about the driving and look at what he
    said about the battery, either personally or through his attorney.

    1- His mother and two pre-teenaged sons were present when he punched
    out a female for presumably yelling at him.

    I'd have given him jail time just for this.

    2- He had "just made a decision to take his ailing father off of life
    support".
    3- They were all headed to a party.

    Am I reading this right? A party? What is this? Was he celebrating
    dear old Dad's impending death or since he was arrested at a party
    did he decide to throw this in to try to muddy the waters and maybe
    drum up some sympathy? I'd add six months to his sentence just for
    insulting the court with such a transparently self-serving statement.

    4- He stopped only to allow his mother to make a phone call.

    Maybe I'm wrong but he was driving a Lexus so I'd guess that was a
    *cellular* phone Mom was using. Maybe Mom couldn't manage the tiny
    little numbers on that phone so he stopped to help her dial the liquor
    store to order booze for the party. What a good son!

    As for his, "I knew instantaneously. My son came and said, 'Daddy,
    there are some police outside looking for you.' I knew I acted poorly.
    I deeply apologize.", I've heard this one so many times that I'm sure
    I have it right. What it really says is, "I knew I'd been caught."
    That's not remorse over his action. It's regret that he didn't get
    away with his action. Tack on a little more jail time.

    Bob for President! (Or at least the SCOTUS!)

    Bill "next time say what you really think" S.

  11. "Wayne Pein" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    F) She is not too bright for having descended at 35 mph close to the white
    line.


    Having ridden the Triple Bypass once (this year) and having ridden the road
    in question several times, I seriously doubt that the lady was descending at
    35 mph no matter what the newspaper said. The Triple is a 115 mile organized
    ride ( not a race, the paper got that wrong) with >10,000 feet of vertical
    gain, anyone who needs 12+ hours to complete the ride is not the type of
    cyclist to descend any road at 35 mph. The stretch of road in question is
    just not steep enough to reach 35 mph without trying pretty hard, which I
    doubt the lady was doing. My guess is that she was descending quite slowly
    and staying far to the right, riding in a much more cautious and timid
    manner than the other 3500 cyclists on the ride. The [censored] in the Lexus
    saw her riding timidly and saw an easy target to pick on. When she
    confronted him and told him he was being a jerk he blew up and punched her.

    Quoted message said:

    G) She is not too bright for attempting to implicate other bicyclists for
    riding abreast and precipitating motorist hostility.

    I don't think she was trying to implicate other cyclists, I think she was
    trying to portray herself as a very cautious, sensible sort of person. I
    agree that confronting the motorist was a stupid thing for her to do, but I
    also agree with her that a little jail time would be a good thing for that
    motorist.
    --
    mark

  12. Quoted message said:

    A 'breakdown of common sense'


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    ...plea bargain for [the perp], wherein he agreed to work alongside the Vail Police
    Department doing traffic control for the Courage Classic cycling event ...

    WHAT?!?!?!?

    So now he'll be in charge of several other drivers' control of their
    vehicles around cyclists?!?!?!? He can't drive his own car past one
    cyclist in a reasonable manner, so let's put him in charge of safety at
    a (presumably) closed course event?? What's wrong with this picture??

    "You in the gravel truck, c'mon down!"

    Sheesh.

    --Karen D.

  13. "Veloise" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A 'breakdown of common sense'


    ...

    Quoted message said:

    ...plea bargain for [the perp], wherein he agreed to work alongside the
    Vail Police
    Department doing traffic control for the Courage Classic cycling event
    ...

    WHAT?!?!?!?

    So now he'll be in charge of several other drivers' control of their
    vehicles around cyclists?!?!?!? He can't drive his own car past one
    cyclist in a reasonable manner, so let's put him in charge of safety at
    a (presumably) closed course event?? What's wrong with this picture??

    "You in the gravel truck, c'mon down!"

    Sheesh.

    --Karen D.


    www.couragetours.com , not what I would call a closed course. My guess is
    that he'll be helping Vail PD block traffic at one of the roundabouts in
    Vail. Since each roundabout requires several people to block traffic there
    would presumably be at least one Vail police officer nearby to keep an eye
    on him.
    --
    mark

  14. Bob said:

    1- His mother and two pre-teenaged sons were present when he punched
    out a female for presumably yelling at him.

    I have little doubt that my late mother, my wife, or either of my two
    adult daughters would have torn me a new one before I got back to the
    car for that. They would also likely have driven off without me - or
    refused to ride with me.

    In fact, I may be being kind. I know I'd have more to fear from my
    wife than from the judge.

    I think the assesment that this was a domestic abuser is proably right
    on the mark.

    Austin

  15. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    That's
    not remorse over his action. It's regret that he didn't get away with
    his action. Tack on a little more jail time.

    But no. His creative "punishment", if I interpreted the article correctly,
    is to act as a volunteer for another fund-raising ride staged in Colorado.
    Something which I and many others would feel privileged to do, and in fact
    wish I could.

  16. Roger Houston said:

    But no. His creative "punishment", if I interpreted the article correctly,
    is to act as a volunteer for another fund-raising ride staged in Colorado.
    Something which I and many others would feel privileged to do, and in fact
    wish I could.

    Why not volunteer then? I'd bet that there are at least a few charity
    fund-raising rides in your area. The American Diabetes Association
    holds the Tour de Cure annually, the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation has
    the MS 150, and the American Cancer Society has the Race For The Cure
    to name just a few.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  17. Bill Sornson said:

    Bob for President! (Or at least the SCOTUS!)

    Thank you for your vote. <g>

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  18. mark said:

    "Gooserider" wrote ...
    Bad tactics on her part, I agree. In her defense, East Vail is a very
    well-to-do semi-rural area. Many people would not expect someone driving an
    expensive SUV in an expensive neighborhood to behave quite so stupidly.

    Foolish for anyone to assume that $$$ = courtesy. My worst encounters
    with motorists have been people driving expensive cars. There are some
    huge egos and precious little patience in those vehicles.

    -JR

  19. SlowRider said:
    mark said:

    "Gooserider" wrote ...
    Bad tactics on her part, I agree. In her defense, East Vail is a very
    well-to-do semi-rural area. Many people would not expect someone driving an
    expensive SUV in an expensive neighborhood to behave quite so stupidly.

    Foolish for anyone to assume that $$$ = courtesy. My worst encounters
    with motorists have been people driving expensive cars. There are some
    huge egos and precious little patience in those vehicles.

    Most guys who drive big SUVs have the same problem as guys who drive
    fancy sports cars, or guys with 65,535dB stereos, they are all
    compensating for a lack somewhere else.....

    W

  20. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But no. His creative "punishment", if I interpreted the article
    correctly,
    is to act as a volunteer for another fund-raising ride staged in
    Colorado.
    Something which I and many others would feel privileged to do, and in
    fact
    wish I could.

    Quoted message said:

    Why not volunteer then? I'd bet that there are at least a few charity
    fund-raising rides in your area.

    Oh, don't get me wrong. I have, and still do, volunteer to support charity
    rides.

    Just not in Colorado, which was the emphasis I should have made more clear.

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