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Kadile is Reprimanded

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  1. Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately for your theoyr, the chelating agent used for iron
    overload is NOT the agent used by Kadile or other quacks. they
    use the commonly available and cheap EDTA.

    "Over 800,000 patient visits were made for chelation therapy in the United
    States in 1997. Chelation therapy involves the use of EDTA (ethylene diamine
    tetra-acetic acid), a synthetic amino acid that is administered intravenously
    (through the veins). EDTA, which effectively speeds removal of heavy metals and
    minerals such as lead, iron, copper, and calcium from the blood, is approved by
    the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in treating lead poisoning
    and toxicity from other heavy metals. Although it is not approved by the FDA to
    treat coronary artery disease, some physicians and alternative medicine
    practitioners have recommended EDTA chelation as a way to treat this disorder."

    http://nccam.nih.gov/news/2002/chelation/pressrelease.htm
    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of
    the rock within the wave that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then
    there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Kadile is Reprimanded
    From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 11/27/2003 6:12 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The objective was to save future PATIENTS a lot of grief, not
    Kadile.

    NO patients had any complaints.

    The object was to stop chelation.

    It will not be stopped by these witch hunts.

    People are going because it WORKS and organized medicine and it's dirty tactics
    will never stomp out word of mouth.

    Jan

  3. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Kadile is Reprimanded
    From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 11/27/2003 6:12 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The objective was to save future PATIENTS a lot of grief, not
    Kadile.

    NO patients had any complaints.

    Dead men tell no tales.

    Aloha,

    Rich

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    The best defense to logic is ignorance.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Kadile is Reprimanded
    From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 11/27/2003 6:12 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would have
    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The objective was to save future PATIENTS a lot of grief, not
    Kadile.

    NO patients had any complaints.

    The object was to stop chelation.

    It will not be stopped by these witch hunts.

    People are going because it WORKS and organized medicine and it's dirty
    tactics
    will never stomp out word of mouth.

    People are going because snake-oil salesmen like Kadile convince them it
    "works," evidence to the contrary from randomized clinical trials be
    damned.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  5. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Kadile is Reprimanded
    From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
    Date: 11/27/2003 6:12 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (BL 1204) said:

    If the prosecutors would have settled for this a while back, it would


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saved the state and Kadile a lot of grief.

    The objective was to save future PATIENTS a lot of grief, not
    Kadile.

    NO patients had any complaints.

    Dead patients do not complain.

    Quoted message said:

    The object was to stop chelation.

    Absolutely. Maybe you are not so stupid after all.

    Quoted message said:

    It will not be stopped by these witch hunts.

    Sadly, you are correct. BTW, they are not "witch hunts" but *quack hunts*.

    Quoted message said:

    People are going because it WORKS and organized medicine and it's dirty


    tactics

    Quoted message said:

    will never stomp out word of mouth.

    There has never been a demonstration of it working for atherosclerosis or
    any circulatory disease.

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