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  1. Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face
    men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is
    that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of
    comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is
    done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what
    they cannot understand. ... The larger the mob, the harder the test. In
    small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally
    fights his way through. ... But when the field's nationwide ... then
    all the odds are on the man who is intrinsically the most devious and
    mediocre - the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his
    mind's a virtual vacuum.

    "The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is
    perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
    of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious
    day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts' desire at
    last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

  2. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face
    men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is
    that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of
    comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is
    done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what
    they cannot understand. ... The larger the mob, the harder the test. In
    small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally
    fights his way through. ... But when the field's nationwide ... then
    all the odds are on the man who is intrinsically the most devious and
    mediocre - the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his
    mind's a virtual vacuum.

    "The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is
    perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
    of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious
    day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts' desire at
    last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    Yeah, Mencken had his moments. On the other hand...

    http://www.powells.com/review/2003_01_23.html

    Steve

  3. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face
    men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is
    that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of
    comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is
    done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what
    they cannot understand. ... The larger the mob, the harder the test. In
    small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally
    fights his way through. ... But when the field's nationwide ... then
    all the odds are on the man who is intrinsically the most devious and
    mediocre - the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his
    mind's a virtual vacuum.

    "The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is
    perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
    of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious
    day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts' desire at
    last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    along the same lines "the best argument against democracy is a five minute
    conversation with the average voter" - Churchill

  4. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face
    men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is
    that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of
    comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is
    done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what
    they cannot understand. ... The larger the mob, the harder the test. In
    small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally
    fights his way through. ... But when the field's nationwide ... then
    all the odds are on the man who is intrinsically the most devious and
    mediocre - the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his
    mind's a virtual vacuum.

    "The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is
    perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
    of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious
    day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts' desire at
    last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    Golly Kurgan, I hope you scanned that instead of typing the whole thing out.

    "Mr. Agnew tells us that we lack a sense of humor. I think he's been doing
    his best to restore it."
    -- Edmund Muskie campaigning in 1968 as Hubert Humphrey's presidential
    running mate, while displaying remarkable prescience about an amatuer
    cyclist in New England.

    JF

  5. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    A fly may sting a stately horse and make him wince; but one is but an
    insect, and the other is a horse still. --Samuel Johnson

  6. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Golly Kurgan, I hope you scanned that instead of typing the whole thing
    out.

    "Mr. Agnew tells us that we lack a sense of humor. I think he's been
    doing
    his best to restore it."
    -- Edmund Muskie campaigning in 1968 as Hubert Humphrey's presidential
    running mate, while displaying remarkable prescience about an amatuer
    cyclist in New England.

    JF


    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so
    unlike your Christ. --M. Gandhi

  7. "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face
    men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is
    that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of
    comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is
    done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what
    they cannot understand. ... The larger the mob, the harder the test. In
    small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally
    fights his way through. ... But when the field's nationwide ... then
    all the odds are on the man who is intrinsically the most devious and
    mediocre - the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his
    mind's a virtual vacuum.

    "The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is
    perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
    of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious
    day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts' desire at
    last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    Yeah, Mencken had his moments. On the other hand...

    http://www.powells.com/review/2003_01_23.html

    Interesting review. Thanks for the link!

  8. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Dumbasses -

    Or Lafferty/KKKunich. Either way - what a dream ticket! They could
    fulfill the eloquent prophecy made by H.L. Mencken in 1920:

    [snip]

    John Wane Gacy said it better, "A clown can get away with murder."

  9. "EuroDog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Golly Kurgan, I hope you scanned that instead of typing the whole
    thing out.

    "Mr. Agnew tells us that we lack a sense of humor. I think he's been
    doing
    his best to restore it."
    -- Edmund Muskie campaigning in 1968 as Hubert Humphrey's
    presidential
    running mate, while displaying remarkable prescience about an amatuer
    cyclist in New England.

    JF


    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are
    so unlike your Christ. --M. Gandhi

    Yeh right. The next time I'm confronted by a "bad" person I'll do what
    Jesus and his Father does. Send them down to burn in Hell.

    PH

  10. "EuroDog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so
    unlike your Christ. --M. Gandhi

    You start counting noses on that and we're all dead. You can say that about
    anyone, starting with me.
    -- Former senator Barry Goldwater in 1989, referring to the alleged heavy
    drinking of former senator and defense secretary designate John Tower.

  11. Philip Holman said:


    Yeh right. The next time I'm confronted by a "bad" person I'll do what
    Jesus and his Father does. Send them down to burn in Hell.

    Jesus was a Jew, an oral tradition rabbi of his time. His eventually
    anti-Temple-centric teachings, along with the rabble that followed him
    town to town, probably led to his death by consent of all auithorities
    of the time.

    Christ was a construct of the early Chrisitian Church. Jesu's
    non-Temple-centric teachings made for an easy start after the fall of
    the Temple and they freely added details to the reality. Doubt Jesu
    would recognize much of his own life as presented after the second
    century. Or agree with it.

    The faith of Jesu was probably much more interesting than the faith
    about Jesu.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  12. "Curtis L. Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Christ was a construct of the early Chrisitian Church. Jesu's
    non-Temple-centric teachings made for an easy start after the fall of
    the Temple and they freely added details to the reality.

    Like willing martyrdom to perpetuate the fraud?

  13. From "Jim Flom":

    Quoted message said:

    Like willing martyrdom to perpetuate the >fraud?

    Citation?

  14. "Tom Paterson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    From "Jim Flom":

    Quoted message said:

    Like willing martyrdom to perpetuate the >fraud?

    Citation?

    Even adherents if higher criticism don't dispute the martyrdom of the
    apostles.

  15. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:30:29 GMT, "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Like willing martyrdom to perpetuate the fraud?

    There is no particular reason that the two would be related. It
    continues to this day. Read what the published Roman Catholic
    Christologists write and what most Church members believe and it comes
    close to a complete disconnect. Same with the members of the
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of America and what you read on the
    theology lists. Not that the members of either church are still quite
    up to martyrdom, by and large. Actually, tithing is too painful for
    most to consider.

    And embellishments come as easily to those that believe as those that
    are cynically adding them for specific purposes. Look at any major
    political party in the U.S. at any time.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  16. From "Jim Flom":

    [citation on martyrdom, fraud]

    Quoted message said:

    Even adherents if higher criticism don't dispute the martyrdom of the
    apostles.

    That's not a citation. --TP

  17. "Tom Paterson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    From "Jim Flom":

    [citation on martyrdom, fraud]

    Quoted message said:

    Even adherents if higher criticism don't dispute the martyrdom of the
    apostles.

    That's not a citation. --TP

    Not a citation, but might I suggest (OT of course) the parties the work of
    the Jesus Seminar at http://virtualreligion.net/forum/index.html ?

  18. Quoted message said:

    From: "B. Lafferty"

    Quoted message said:

    might I suggest (OT of course) the parties the work of
    the Jesus Seminar at http://virtualreligion.net/forum/index.html ?

    Thanks, after I finish From Jesus to Christianity by L. Michael White. --TP

  19. "Tom Paterson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: "B. Lafferty"

    Quoted message said:

    might I suggest (OT of course) the parties the work of
    the Jesus Seminar at http://virtualreligion.net/forum/index.html ?

    Thanks, after I finish From Jesus to Christianity by L. Michael
    White. --TP

    Have you read John Dominic Crossan's "Jesus--A Revolutionary Biography?"

  20. Quoted message said:

    From: "B. Lafferty"

    Quoted message said:

    Have you read John Dominic Crossan's "Jesus--A Revolutionary Biography?"

    Includes the Teenage Years? <g>

    Nope, on the list. I'm getting into the Jesus thing, along with the rest of the
    country, I guess.

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