Kofi Annan vs ... Mr "David Wright"

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Toby Joe said:

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From: "Uniquely Ilsa9.00a1" <[email hidden]> Sent:
Monday, March 22, 2004 6:50 AM Subject: Re: Kofi Annan vs
... Mr "David Wright"

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HIV is a naturally occuring virus, most likely indigenous
to Africa.

No, what happened is not "natural". "Exactly how SIVcpz was
transmitted to humans to re-emerge as HIV is not known."
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What is happening with transgenic diseases is something
else again.

My, my, my, what a leap of non-logic. The fact that we don't
know how something happened does not mean that this is
something deliberate.

All your quotation says is that it "is not known." You
immediately leap to the unwarranted conclusion that whatever
happened is not "natural." Pfui.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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From: "MHA Needs More Skeptics" <[email hidden]>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kofi Annan vs ... Mr "David Wright"

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Sure, what is happening there is a terrible tragedy, but
is it qualitatively worse that they die from HIV as
opposed to famine, earthquake, drowning, snake-bite, etc?

AIDS Orphans Numbers by region:

www.unicef.org/sowc02/g31.htm

I don't understand if that is intended as an answer. HIV is
an epidemic, a disease, and not a genocidal maniac.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Toby

Joe said:

I think there was conscious intent in raising a question
over the use of the word. The same conscious intent that
is seen in many other attempts,

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Well, who gives a rat's ass what you think? If you think.

I could just as easily say that I think you're
deliberately cheapening the use of the word "genocide"
when you use it to describe the results of a disease. I
think you're trying to downplay the horrors of what the
Nazis did, of what has happened in Rwanda and elsewhere.

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I agree! What has a disease got to do with genocide - the
deliberate killing of certain peoples? AIDS is an equal
opportunity killer.
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"Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Toby Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

soon to start thinking about it. What religion did you say
they are? Many Christian? But they're black

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ones, aren't they. Probably promiscuous. Got what they
deserve...)

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Toby, I'm confused by your posts. You are comparing the
HIV/AIDS epidemic

in

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Africa with the Holocaust and calling it "genocide." Does
this mean that

you

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believe that AIDS in Africa is caused by human agency with
evil intent?

That's sure the impression I'm getting. He seems to feel
this was somehow caused??!?!?! And no one cares because the
victims are black. What nonsense. What does he expect the
world to do? AIDS is everywhere.....

If

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so, please specify who you believe is responsible for this
crime and the means you believe they used to commit it.

I eagerly await his answer to this question.

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There are campaigns of genocide ongoing in Africa, warfare
stemming from tribal rivalries of hundreds of years. But
AIDS is pandemic, no respecter

of

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race, politics, or tribal ancestry. If AIDS is a genocidal
weapon, it is a pretty clumsy one, akin to using a
thermonuclear bomb to remove a crack house.

--Rich

Toby's posts sound like he believes there was some kind of
wicked conspiracy involved.
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"Kim" <[email hidden]> squeaked loudly:

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AIDS is an equal opportunity killer.

Within the bloated, spoiled nations, where people groan
under the weight of their obesity problems, stapling their
stomachs and hacking the fat off their faces and wobbling
chins, - for sure: it's "equal opp for all".

Between those nations of the fat and those who are thankful
if they have one bowl of nsima a day; where getting water to
wash or drink means _at least_ a 15 - 20 minute walk each
way, carrying the jugs on their heads, and the water that
they find is already poisoned from runoff and animal scum;
where an operation includes someone standing nearby to swat
off the flies...

equal for all, only who are the "all".

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"I happen to think that the singular evil of our time is
prejudice. It is from this evil that all other evils grow
and multiply." R. Serling

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"Kim" <[email hidden]> squeaked loudly:

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AIDS is an equal opportunity killer.

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Within the bloated, spoiled nations, where people groan
under the weight

of

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their obesity problems, stapling their stomachs and
hacking the fat off their faces and wobbling chins, - for
sure: it's "equal opp for all".

What does obesity have to do with AIDS? People are obese
because they eat too much and don't move enough. Obesity
isn't a disease....??!!?!?!?

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Between those nations of the fat and those who are
thankful if they have one bowl of nsima a day; where
getting water to wash or drink means _at least_ a 15 - 20
minute walk each way, carrying the jugs on their heads,
and the water that they find is already poisoned from
runoff and animal scum; where an operation includes
someone standing nearby to swat off the flies... equal for
all, only who are the "all".

They are the "all." If their lives are so hard in a
particular area why stay there? They're as free to move to
another place as we are - are they not? Also - what about
birth-control? It's clear that these people do not BELIEVE
in any form of BC. Some of these unfortunate women, married
as young as 13 and 14 years old, have 10 or more children
before they succumb to some birthing complication or other
disease. Preventing AIDS is as important as teaching them
about BC methods or supplying them with free vasectomies and
tubal ligations. Their environment clearly isn't capable of
supporting such huge families.
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