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  1. My kneepads are falling apart, so instead of buying new ones, I thought
    I'd try to find a knee/shin combo. I found one bike shop carrying
    armor, and they only had 661s. Searching this forum, it sounded like
    Kris Holm was making armor, and based on his comments (a post he made
    in summer of 03) his would be superior to anything else available. But
    when I went to his website, there's none listed.

    Kris, or anyone who might know, is Kris Holm armor still available?

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  2. I really don't know, but as far as I can tell sixsixone armor is quite
    sufficient for anything you would want. I really don't know if KH armor
    is still available, but I don't think that it is. I've never seen it be
    in stock on unicyclist.com, and if it's not on his website I doubt he's
    still making it.

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  3. Kris only had a small batch of armour made and they've all sold out. I
    don't know if he'll be doing another batch of armour again or not.

    The 661 4x4 armour works plenty well enough as long as it fits your leg
    proportions. The 661 stuff is also less expensive.

    Roach also makes a similar armour. Roach is now owned by Race Face.
    Roach used to be the good stuff but their redesign of the armour
    introduced some problems. The padding inside now is formed and has air
    channels which seems like a good idea, but it causes chafing for some
    people. The new foam padding is also a lot more firm than the old
    stuff so is less soft and comfy.
    'Roach Indy Armour' (http://tinyurl.com/dlyha)
    'Race Face Indy Armour'
    (http://www.raceface.com/apparel/protection/indyarmor.htm)

    Other companies are now making similar fabric style armour. I just saw
    some by Fox Racing that is similar to the 661 and Roach style armour.
    It's the Fox North Shore line. I don't know how comfy it is. I just
    saw it in a local store.
    'Fox North Shore Armour' (http://tinyurl.com/7tcqk)

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  4. Thanks. I emailed his website, too. He said they plan to make more in
    future but right now there is none to be had.

    Does anyone else have opinions on what is the best armor right now? I
    was looking into Roach but then saw the newer stuff was worse that the
    old, if anything.

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  5. john_childs said:

    It's the Fox North Shore line. I don't know how comfy it is.

    I've been sporting the North Shore leg armor for 'bout a year now and I
    am very happy with it. It offers full coverage for the front and back
    of the leg, and I've impact-tested nearly every square inch of it 🙂
    The knee cap protection is outstanding, and the coverage around the
    calf has saved me from many pedal bites. The shin protection has
    proven adequate (i.e. no broken skin or bones) through many
    shin-meets-rock-at-high-speed incidents, although it still transmits
    quite a bit of the shock. The durability of the armor is great: after
    many accidents and several washings, it's still like new.

    There are air channels in the armor but I've never experienced chafing
    from them... I've learned to stop and adjust the armor every now and
    then, since the outside seam can cause a little chafing around the side
    of the knee if it gets all bunched up. Despite the channels and the
    behind-the-knee vent, the armor isn't the coolest thing you'll wear. I
    definitely sweat in them on every ride. But the protection is worth
    it!

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  6. I am finally trashing my Roach pads after this past weekend. I had
    three falls involving my knees, and in two of them the Roach pads came
    down and I took the fall on the kneecap. A lot of people have problems
    with the Roach pads not staying up when you need them to.

    I liked the design of the KH armor, but if it's not available I'll go
    with the 661, which seems to stay further up the leg than the Roach
    armor.

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  7. I've been using 661's for almost a year, and once you get used to them
    they work pretty well. Only prob I've had is the one time I wore them
    the "right" way, with tyhe "661" logo facing out, they took off several
    layers of skin, and left scars for several months. Wearing them with
    the logos facing in solved it.

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  8. for the mopney the 661s are the best.

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  9. I managed to get a pair of Fox brand Knee/Shin pads that are very light
    weight and stay up very well for super cheap. This was when my LBS was
    closing down, so it was mostly luck. They are awesome for everything
    beside back of the leg shots. If you tend to do that a lot, its best
    to get something like the 661s, even if they are a lot hotter.

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  10. I'm on to my second pair of 661s after 3 years riding, they do the job
    well and they're cheap, i also have the 2x2 arm gaurds, don't use them
    much but they're good too, just don't buy their wristguards, they suck.

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  11. I'm still on my first pair of 661s, 3 years into them. I've done a lot
    of bad falls and they've saved me on many occasions. I don't notice the
    extra heat either, but maybe thats cos I've only ever used 661s.

    I concur with the wrist guard comment, The 661 'wristwraps' are
    rubbish.

    Loose.

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  12. I have all sizes in the KH arm armour. I'm pretty sure I only have size
    small for KH leg armour.

    I have the new KH gloves in stock in all sizes.

    I also have all KH unicycles and replacement parts in stock.

    Darren
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  13. tholub said:

    I am finally trashing my Roach pads after this past weekend. I had
    three falls involving my knees, and in two of them the Roach pads came
    down and I took the fall on the kneecap. A lot of people have problems
    with the Roach pads not staying up when you need them to.

    I liked the design of the KH armor, but if it's not available I'll go
    with the 661, which seems to stay further up the leg than the Roach
    armor.

    The trick with the leg armour is to get it long enough so it can't
    slide down the leg. Ideally it should be long enough so that when it
    slides down to the top of your shoe your knee is still covered. People
    with long legs will have problems with that. Back when Roach was
    making custom armour you could get them to make an extra long set of
    leg armour. That was nice.

    The large 661 has been long enough for me. A little longer would be
    better, but it works as is.

    The problem with fabric style armour is that fabric grips the ground
    when you crash. It wants to pull the armour down your leg during a
    crash instead of sliding on the ground. Armour with a hard plastic
    outer cap on the knee will tend to slide on the ground instead of
    gripping the ground. In that way the armour styles with the outer
    plastic caps are better.

    For the 661/Roach/etc. style armour you may need to tighten it rather
    tightly around your calf to keep it from sliding down.

    One other thing you can try is cutting the toe end from a sock, rolling
    up the sock and wear it like an ankle bracelet. That will create a
    sort of stop above your shoe to help keep the armour from sliding down
    so far.

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  14. Darren said:

    I'm pretty sure I only have size small for KH leg armour.

    Darren, I just pm'd you about sizing.

    I found a website with product reviews. Fox sounds good. Except I
    think I'd go with the kind that have hard shell on the knees. I don't
    think the 911s have calf protection but I could always rig something up
    back there.

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  15. digigal1 said:

    Darren, I just pm'd you about sizing.

    I found a website with product reviews. Fox sounds good. Except I
    think I'd go with the kind that have hard shell on the knees. I don't
    think the 911s have calf protection but I could always rig something up
    back there.

    The fabric armour like the 661 protects the side of the knees better
    than the armour that has a hard cap on the outside. When you unicycle
    the inside of your knee will often rub on the frame or the tyre.
    Sometimes when landing a drop or a bump the side of your knee will hit
    the frame as you land. The 661 style armour gives you some protection
    there while most of the hard outer shell armour does not. That's one
    reason why the fabric armour like the 661/Roach/KH is so popular with
    unicyclists. That and the way the cover the back of the calf.

    'Core Rat' (http://www.corerat.com/) makes a hard outer shell armour
    with optional calf protection. I've never tried it. Look like it
    would leave the inside part of the knee vulnerable to getting banged up
    by the frame and tyre. You might be able to add the Core Rat calf
    protection to other brands of armour? Don't know about that. Just a
    thought.

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  16. Quoted message said:

    One other thing you can try is cutting the toe end from a sock, rolling
    up the sock and wear it like an ankle bracelet. That will create a sort
    of stop above your shoe to help keep the armour from sliding down so
    far.

    you can also wear swat style tactical boots that go about 3 inches above
    the ankle.

    my old school Roaches never slide down.

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  17. john_childs said:

    The problem with fabric style armour is that fabric grips the ground
    when you crash. It wants to pull the armour down your leg during a
    crash instead of sliding on the ground. Armour with a hard plastic
    outer cap on the knee will tend to slide on the ground instead of
    gripping the ground. In that way the armour styles with the outer
    plastic caps are better.

    That's what happened to me this summer. My 661's slid down during
    impact with a rock. My knee ended up hitting the rock.

    I now ride with Roach RF shin/knee and elbow pads. Having taken a few
    spectacular falls, I am pleased to say that the new pads stay put and
    do not slide down my leg on impact.

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