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  1. Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column implied
    he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe was
    unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes who
    believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer, Chris
    Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a drug cheat
    aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here: <sfgate.com/cgi-
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6O5-
    ONH21.DTL>

    Jim

  2. "Jim Feeley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column
    implied he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe was
    unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes who
    believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer, Chris
    Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a drug cheat
    aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here:


    <sfgate.com/cgi-
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6O5ONH
    21.DTL>

    Quoted message said:

    Jim

    Gwen Knapp article was short too, cynical and more of a
    troll then anything else. Another journalist looking to
    raise her profile at the expense of someone noteable.
    Happens all the time. That's why my cousin got out of
    journalism, he was asked to do a lot of questionable things
    to raise viewer interest.

    B-

  3. "Jim Feeley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column
    implied he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe was
    unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes who
    believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer, Chris
    Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a drug cheat
    aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here:


    <sfgate.com/cgi-
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6O5ONH
    21.DTL>

    Gwen Knapp = Jayson Blair

  4. "onefred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    "Jim Feeley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column
    implied he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe was
    unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes who
    believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer, Chris
    Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a drug cheat
    aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here:


    <sfgate.com/cgi-
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6
    O5ONH 21.DTL>

    Gwen Knapp = Jayson Blair

    Also just happens to be in San Francisco where a certain
    someone, the orginization and the league which employ him
    are feeling a wee bit heat for (gasp!) performance
    enhancing drug use.

  5. Very amusing reply from Krispy.

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    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6O-
    5ONH21.DTL

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe was
    unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes who
    believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer, Chris
    Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a drug cheat
    aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    Ms. Knapp stated: "His trainer (mine) just happens to be
    charged with distributing performance-enhancing drugs."

    My trainer for the past 15 years has been Chris
    Carmichael. He discovered me as a young athlete, convinced
    me to focus on cycling, stood by me during my cancer
    treatments, orchestrated my comeback, and has been by my
    side every winter in between my five Tour (de France)
    wins. Chris has never been under any sort of investigation
    for distributing drugs.

    In her column, Ms. Knapp states that Dr. Michele Ferrari is
    my trainer, and she relies on that statement to build her
    case. The truth is that Chris has been my coach, my trainer
    and my primary source of daily training schedules for many,
    many years. I believe it was irresponsible of Ms. Knapp to
    ignore that fact. I would like to thank The Chronicle for
    printing a clarification.

    The fact is that Dr. Ferrari is among a number of people who
    consult with Chris and me on issues like diet, hypoxic work
    and recovery. To say that Michele Ferrari is my trainer is
    like saying that your nurse is your "doctor" just because he
    or she may provide support to your doctor.

    It is true that Dr. Ferrari has been on trial in Italy for a
    number of years for allegedly providing drugs to athletes. I
    have been clear about this issue. First, I have never seen
    anything that would lead me to believe that
    Mt. Ferrari would do such a thing and, second, I continue to
    believe that he deserves the benefit of a simple
    presumption: innocent until proven guilty. Finally, I
    have said that if Dr. Ferrari is found guilty I will
    immediately re- evaluate his role as a consultant to
    Chris and me.

    Furthermore, Ms. Knapp states that my association with Dr.
    Ferrari was "revealed" in a 2001 article in the Sunday Times
    of London. The truth is that my association with Dr. Ferrari
    has never been a secret. I have never denied my association
    with him or intentionally attempted to hide it. Beyond that,
    dating back to 1996, there have been a number of respected
    journalists aware of our association. It is my belief that
    they chose not to write about it because they did not find
    it sensational or particularly newsworthy.

    Last year I was drug tested more than 24 times. That's twice
    a month. Ms. Knapp claims that "savvy fans know that the
    tests are unreliable." Really? If that's the case, then I
    know a lot of professional cyclists who are not very
    "savvy." The truth is that we believe the current tests do
    work and we are proud that our sport has led the way to
    create cutting-edge testing and forced that testing on
    ourselves. I would ask Ms. Knapp if she called someone like
    Dr. Don Catlin head of the IOC-accredited UCLA testing lab,
    to ask him if he thought that drug testing was "unreliable"
    or if, specifically, the test for EPO does not work.

    I would challenge her to do a little homework on the EPO
    test and reconsider her view.

    I believe in the importance of organizations like the U.S.
    and World Anti- Doping Agencies. I sincerely hope they are
    enforcing "reliable" drug testing. And I've put my money
    where my mouth is. I have donated my own money to speed
    research into improved drug testing.

    Beyond the obvious clarification of who my trainer is, I
    would also like to clarify a few other statements:

    1. She stated that my sport has been spared of
    investigations into drug taking. Are you kidding? There
    have been any number of government investigations into
    our sport. In fact, my own team suffered through a two-
    year investigation by the French government that, in the
    end, concluded that we had taken no drugs or done
    anything wrong. Yes, we have had our problems. But we
    have joined together in the fight against doping and our
    sport should be proud of that. I challenge anyone to find
    a sporting event that has more doping control than the
    Tour de France.

    2. She called my performances, post-cancer, a "stunning
    improvement." She makes it sound as if I came out of
    nowhere and won the Tour de France (with the hidden
    implication being that I did that with the aid of drugs).
    The facts are that I was winning professional triathlons
    at age 17, that I am still the youngest-ever world road
    cycling champion, and that I was the youngest ever Tour
    de France stage winner at age 21.

    When I found out I had cancer at age 25, I was on my way
    to maturing as a professional and was just beginning to
    have the sort of experience that could have allowed me to
    make an overall win at the Tour a goal. When I did win
    the Tour, there were a number of journalists, mainly
    French, who questioned my accomplishment. They even
    insinuated that the chemotherapy I was administered may
    have enhanced me physically and permanently, thus
    explaining my Tour win in 1999.

    I suppose I could just sit back and say nothing when I'm
    attacked like this. Life is short, and I know that from my
    own personal experience. I have said it before and I will
    say it again: I believe that I am the most tested athlete on
    this planet, I have never had a single positive doping test,
    and I do not take performance-enhancing drugs.

  6. "Cranky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "onefred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    "Jim Feeley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column
    implied he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe
    was unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes
    who believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer,
    Chris Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a
    drug cheat aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here:



    sfgate.comcgi
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/SPG6O-
    5ONH21.DTL

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Gwen Knapp = Jayson Blair

    Also just happens to be in San Francisco where a certain
    someone, the orginization and the league which employ him
    are feeling a wee bit heat for (gasp!) performance
    enhancing drug use.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    onefred said:

    "Jim Feeley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thought you all might find this mildly interesting:

    Tour de France champ fires back Cyclist says column
    implied he cheated

    by Lance Armstrong

    Sunday, March 21, 2004

    Gwen Knapp on March 2 authored a piece that I believe
    was unfair in its treatment of me, my fellow athletes
    who believe in drug testing, and my long-time trainer,
    Chris Carmichael. In my opinion I was portrayed as a
    drug cheat aligned with a drug-pushing trainer.

    ==

    The rest is here:


    <sfgate.com/cgi-
    bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/21/S-
    PG6O5ONH
    21.DTL>

    Gwen Knapp = Jayson Blair

    Keep up with the times! Blair is old news, so try
    Jack Kelley.

    <latimes.comla na
    usatoday20mar20,1,1590
    448.story?coll=la-home-headlines>

    --
    tanx, Howard

    Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
    R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
    anything with a skull on it.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  8. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Very amusing reply from Krispy.

    Don't you think they should be tested for them also?? In
    college someone turned me on to Krispy Kreme's, I went from
    a lazy over weight slob to a
    3:13 marathon in less than a quarter and ran a 2:52 3 month
    later!! ... and that's the truth!!

    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com

  9. Armstrong's ignorance of the history of bicycle racing is
    shocking. Lance Amrstrong was nor the youngest world road
    cycling champion, nor the youngest Tour the France stage
    winner ever. Karel Kaers became world champion at 20, and at
    the age Armstrong won his first TdF stage, René Vietto had
    already won six of them and Henri Cornet won his first and
    only stage at 19. About the rest: well, you can't blame him.
    Bicycling racers are more or less forced to be hypocrites.

    Benjo Maso

  10. "smiles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OK-
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    Very amusing reply from Krispy.

    Don't you think they should be tested for them also?? In
    college someone turned me on to Krispy Kreme's, I went
    from a lazy over weight slob to a
    3:13 marathon in less than a quarter and ran a 2:52 3
    month later!! ...


    and

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    that's the truth!!

    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com


    There is a test for them. It's called a skinsuit.

  11. HELL YEA Lance you tell'em....

    I hate to say it but I have tested positive for the krispy
    kreme test and am in rehab so my skinsuit will fit again 🙁

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:j9r7-
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    "smiles" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
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    Quoted message said:

    Very amusing reply from Krispy.

    Don't you think they should be tested for them also?? In
    college


    someone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    turned me on to Krispy Kreme's, I went from a lazy over
    weight slob to a
    3:13 marathon in less than a quarter and ran a 2:52 3
    month later!! ...


    and

    Quoted message said:

    that's the truth!!

    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com


    There is a test for them. It's called a skinsuit.

  12. Brian, you forgot the usual cheap shot.

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Very amusing reply from Krispy.

  13. Hey! I look good in a skinsuit on my Krispy Kreme diet. In
    fact, my appearance got me some commerical work. You might
    have seen them. In all of them I came bashing through a wall
    and delivered sugar-water to thirsty kids.

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:j9r7-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "smiles" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
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    Quoted message said:

    Very amusing reply from Krispy.

    Don't you think they should be tested for them also?? In
    college


    someone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    turned me on to Krispy Kreme's, I went from a lazy over
    weight slob to a
    3:13 marathon in less than a quarter and ran a 2:52 3
    month later!! ...


    and

    Quoted message said:

    that's the truth!!

    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com


    There is a test for them. It's called a skinsuit.

  14. "Tom Kunich" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    Brian, you forgot the usual cheap shot.

    He's restraining himself because deep down inside he knows
    he shouldn't do things like that.

  15. "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong's ignorance of the history of bicycle racing is
    shocking. Lance Amrstrong was nor the youngest world road
    cycling champion, nor the


    youngest

    Quoted message said:

    Tour the France stage winner ever. Karel Kaers became
    world champion at


    20,

    Quoted message said:

    and at the age Armstrong won his first TdF stage, René
    Vietto had already won six of them and Henri Cornet won
    his first and only stage at 19. About the rest: well, you
    can't blame him. Bicycling racers are more or less forced
    to be hypocrites.

    Benjo Maso

    I sent the following letter to the paper today:

    March 22, 2004

    Letters to the Editor San Francisco Chronicle 901 Mission
    Street San Francisco, CA 94103

    Re: Armstrong Letter Inaccuracies

    To The Editor:

    Lance Armstong's recent letter to your publication
    displays an amazing ignorance of cycling history. Mr.
    Armstrong, despite his assertions, was not the youngest
    professional world champion nor was he the youngest
    winner of a Tour de France stage. As the noted European
    cycling historian Benjo Maso has stated, "Karel Kaers
    became world champion at 20, and at the age Armstrong won
    his first TdF stage, René Vietto had already won six of
    them. Henri Cornet won his first and only stage at 19."*
    Mr. Armstrong may be a superlative champion in certain
    aspects of cycling, but he would do well to read a bit
    about the long history of his sport before
    Coach/Trainer Carmichael discovered him and he hired
    Dr. Ferrari as a consultant.

    Brian Lafferty

    * Usenet 3/22/04, rec.bicycles.racing

  16. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong's ignorance of the history of bicycle racing
    is shocking.


    Lance

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Amrstrong was nor the youngest world road cycling
    champion, nor the


    youngest

    Quoted message said:

    Tour the France stage winner ever. Karel Kaers became
    world champion at


    20,

    Quoted message said:

    and at the age Armstrong won his first TdF stage, René
    Vietto had


    already

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    won six of them and Henri Cornet won his first and only
    stage at 19.


    About

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the rest: well, you can't blame him. Bicycling racers
    are more or less forced to be hypocrites.

    Benjo Maso

    I sent the following letter to the paper today:

    March 22, 2004

    Letters to the Editor San Francisco Chronicle 901 Mission
    Street San Francisco, CA 94103

    Re: Armstrong Letter Inaccuracies

    To The Editor:

    Lance Armstong's recent letter to your publication
    displays an amazing ignorance of cycling history. Mr.
    Armstrong, despite his assertions, was not the youngest
    professional world champion nor was he the youngest


    winner

    Quoted message said:

    of a Tour de France stage. As the noted European cycling
    historian Benjo Maso has stated, "Karel Kaers became world
    champion at 20, and at the age Armstrong won his first TdF
    stage, René Vietto had already won six of


    them.

    Quoted message said:

    Henri Cornet won his first and only stage at 19."*
    Mr. Armstrong may be a superlative champion in certain
    aspects of


    cycling,

    Quoted message said:

    but he would do well to read a bit about the long history
    of his sport before Coach/Trainer Carmichael discovered
    him and he hired Dr. Ferrari as


    a

    Quoted message said:

    consultant.

    Of course I wasn't really shocked. But it's still amazing
    that Armstrong is making claims like that without checking
    upon it. And it's true that he is pretty ignorant of cycling
    history. A Dutch journalist told me one or two years ago
    that Armstrong hadn't even heard of Bordeaux-Paris.

    Benjo Maso

  17. I look forward to sportspage fillers regularly retrieving
    race history, analysis and forecasts from the many esteemed
    specialists on this forum. Please keep us informed.

  18. "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6T-
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    "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong's ignorance of the history of bicycle racing
    is shocking.


    Lance

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Amrstrong was nor the youngest world road cycling
    champion, nor the


    youngest

    Quoted message said:

    Tour the France stage winner ever. Karel Kaers became
    world champion


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    20,

    Quoted message said:

    and at the age Armstrong won his first TdF stage, René
    Vietto had


    already

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    won six of them and Henri Cornet won his first and
    only stage at 19.


    About

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the rest: well, you can't blame him. Bicycling racers
    are more or less forced to be hypocrites.

    Benjo Maso

    I sent the following letter to the paper today:

    March 22, 2004

    Letters to the Editor San Francisco Chronicle 901
    Mission Street San Francisco, CA 94103

    Re: Armstrong Letter Inaccuracies

    To The Editor:

    Lance Armstong's recent letter to your publication
    displays an


    amazing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ignorance of cycling history. Mr. Armstrong, despite his
    assertions,


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not the youngest professional world champion nor was he
    the youngest


    winner

    Quoted message said:

    of a Tour de France stage. As the noted European cycling
    historian


    Benjo

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Maso has stated, "Karel Kaers became world champion at
    20, and at the


    age

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong won his first TdF stage, René Vietto had
    already won six of


    them.

    Quoted message said:

    Henri Cornet won his first and only stage at 19."*
    Mr. Armstrong may be a superlative champion in certain
    aspects of


    cycling,

    Quoted message said:

    but he would do well to read a bit about the long
    history of his sport before Coach/Trainer Carmichael
    discovered him and he hired Dr. Ferrari


    as

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    consultant.

    Of course I wasn't really shocked. But it's still amazing
    that Armstrong


    is

    Quoted message said:

    making claims like that without checking upon it. And it's
    true that he is pretty ignorant of cycling history. A
    Dutch journalist told me one or two years ago that
    Armstrong hadn't even heard of Bordeaux-Paris.

    Benjo Maso

    Perhaps we could come up with a suggested reading list for
    him.

    There are many books, but here are several to get him
    started.

    1. European Cycle Racing--Nicholson
    2. Fausto Coppi--Jean-Paul Ollivier
    3. Cycling Heros--Les Woodland
    4. The Giants of Cycling--Jean-Paul Ollivier
    5. Eddy Merckx--Rick VanWalleghem
    6. Malliot Jaune--Ollivier
    7. Fausto Goppi-- Jacques Augendre 8 The Giro d'Italia--
    Dino Buzzati
    8. Tour de France...--Graeme Fife
    9. A Century of Paris Roubaix--Pascal Sargent

    Presumable he already has the Centennial Tour book as he did
    the forward to the US version. Perhaps Sheryl could read
    some to him every night before bed. ;-)

  19. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Presumable he already has the Centennial Tour book as he
    did the forward to the US version. Perhaps Sheryl could
    read some to him every night before bed. ;-)

    Dumbass,

    Regarding athletes, lawyers, rbr posters, et alii, ignorance
    is not prohibited in any way, as you demonstrate regularly.

  20. "gwhite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>-
    ...

    Quoted message said:
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    Presumable he already has the Centennial Tour book as he
    did the forward


    to

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    the US version. Perhaps Sheryl could read some to him
    every night


    before

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    Quoted message said:

    bed. ;-)

    Dumbass,

    Regarding athletes, lawyers, rbr posters, et alii,
    ignorance is not prohibited in any way, as you demonstrate
    regularly.

    Thanks for sharing that with us.

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