Landis looses arbitration.

Powerful Pete said:

True. Dunno about Heras (don't remember his age) but I wonder if someone will risk signing Basso again... 'he has done his time' statements (while remembering that he is relatively young and has a number of good years ahead of him).

This worked against Hamilton.

When can Basso return? I think he will return. In the past many riders were suspended, not as long and returned to racing as if they were never missed.

wolfix said:

When can Basso return? I think he will return. In the past many riders were suspended, not as long and returned to racing as if they were never missed.

You need to pay closer attention. Things have changed a lot in the last three years. It's not 2004 anymore. There is not much forgivenss going around these days.

Basso will never ride the TdF again--at least not as a legitmate contender. His best bet is to get on an Italian Pro Continental team and race the Giro. Maybe after he puts in many years and is too old to win the Tour, the ASO will let him ride the Tour.

Landis is in a similar position. He needs to either ride in the U.S. or brush up on his spanish and ride for a small Spanish team with a chance to race the Vuelta.

BTW, Heras is 33. He could still win the Vuelta again--maybe twice.

Fair enough. Though let us see what happens in the end. I do hope that Basso rides again and races in the Giro. TdF not so important for me to see him, but that is just my national bias. 🙂

Bro Deal said:

You need to pay closer attention. Things have changed a lot in the last three years. It's not 2004 anymore. There is not much forgivenss going around these days.

Basso will never ride the TdF again--at least not as a legitmate contender. .

If he comes back and does very well in the Giro...... The TDF will be begging for him to come back as soon as the ASO/UCI argument is over. The TDF does not care for a clean TDF, they want a profitable one that they are in control of.......

Bro Deal said:

That could be and if so I apologize to the poster specifically, but I am talking in a more general sense. Even on sites where the population is mostly American and native English speakers, the majority of the participants seem to be incapable of telling the difference between "loose" and "lose." Take slashdot, for example, a site where half the people there think of themselbes as geniuses; only a small percentage know the difference.

Sorry, a pet peeve. Probably should not have brought it up.

mine pet peeve is then and than. i'm a terrible speller, my grammer is total [censored], i use lots of ellipses, and to hell with captialization etc.. but this is not even a typo. i can except typos... Americans don't seem to even know that there is a difference between then and than... what's up with that?

doctorSpoc said:

mine pet peeve is then and than. i'm a terrible speller, my grammer is total [censored], i use lots of ellipses, and to hell with captialization etc.. but this is not even a typo. i can except typos... Americans don't seem to even know that there is a difference between then and than... what's up with that?

"I didn't follow Floyd's case that much, but I will tell you, if that's a jury trial in the United States of America, with eight or 10 or 12 of our fellow citizens, you get off every time. Not that you get off, but you're vindicated," Armstrong told The Associated Press on Tuesday while promoting a new line of Nike apparel that supports his Livestrong campaign to fight cancer.

Armstrong, who has endured doping accusations throughout his career, has criticized the French lab where Landis' tests were conducted.

"When you are giving someone the death penalty, which they essentially did, you cannot tolerate shoddy work, which they clearly did," Armstrong said. "I don't understand that type of rationale. I don't understand the verdict.

"It's tough for Floyd; it's tough for cycling. But at the same time, it's also really tough and unfortunate for the fans of all athletes. You never know when you're in that position, when an athlete's in that position, and you want to make sure that everything's done right."

Armstrong conceded that cycling is going through a "tough period."

"But I think all of sport is going through a tough time," he said. "You can look at cycling and say, 'Oh, they're all cheaters.' But you know what? ... You can look at the McLaren Formula One team and say they're cheaters."

"It's top-level sport," Armstrong said of cycling. "There's a lot of money, a lot of pride, a lot of fame on the line. People are going to cut corners. It's the job of the governing bodies and the police and all these agencies to make sure what we're watching is pure and clear."

whiteboytrash said:

"I didn't follow Floyd's case that much, but I will tell you, if that's a jury trial in the United States of America, with eight or 10 or 12 of our fellow citizens, you get off every time. Not that you get off, but you're vindicated," Armstrong told The Associated Press on Tuesday while promoting a new line of Nike apparel that supports his Livestrong campaign to fight cancer.

Armstrong, who has endured doping accusations throughout his career, has criticized the French lab where Landis' tests were conducted.

"When you are giving someone the death penalty, which they essentially did, you cannot tolerate shoddy work, which they clearly did," Armstrong said. "I don't understand that type of rationale. I don't understand the verdict.

"It's tough for Floyd; it's tough for cycling. But at the same time, it's also really tough and unfortunate for the fans of all athletes. You never know when you're in that position, when an athlete's in that position, and you want to make sure that everything's done right."

Armstrong conceded that cycling is going through a "tough period."

"But I think all of sport is going through a tough time," he said. "You can look at cycling and say, 'Oh, they're all cheaters.' But you know what? ... You can look at the McLaren Formula One team and say they're cheaters."

"It's top-level sport," Armstrong said of cycling. "There's a lot of money, a lot of pride, a lot of fame on the line. People are going to cut corners. It's the job of the governing bodies and the police and all these agencies to make sure what we're watching is pure and clear."

is there a reason you quoted me for this post?

Floyd is farked now.... Pound is becoming head of CAS !!

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whiteboytrash said:

Floyd is farked now.... Pound is becoming head of CAS !!

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Classic, just classic. Wish I could say that news actually surprised me.

whiteboytrash said:

Floyd is farked now.... Pound is becoming head of CAS !!

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Hold it! He has not become head yet. He's just been nominated as has been Robert Briner. To quote the article,

"The rival for the CAS presidency is no lightweight. Though Briner is not a familiar name in the world of sport, he is in the world of arbitrations. He is the former president of the International Court of Justice and president of the International Court of Arbitration for the International Chamber of Commerce."

TheDarkLord said:

Hold it! He has not become head yet. He's just been nominated as has been Robert Briner. To quote the article,

"The rival for the CAS presidency is no lightweight. Though Briner is not a familiar name in the world of sport, he is in the world of arbitrations. He is the former president of the International Court of Justice and president of the International Court of Arbitration for the International Chamber of Commerce."

Yes, that is true. Technically, there is still hope. But, realistically, I'm not holding my breath.

Bro Deal said:

Why can't 80% of people on the Internet spell lose?

I started school in 1972 when there was a big push to teach kids to read and write using phonics only and no memorization. Turns out that it was a terribly failed experiment and many people of my generation are in the same bote.

Frigo's Luggage said:

I started school in 1972 when there was a big push to teach kids to read and write using phonics only and no memorization. Turns out that it was a terribly failed experiment and many people of my generation are in the same bote.

Weren't the seventies a wonderful time for new age radical teaching theories, and teachers with long hair and beards singing Simon and Garfunkel songs to the class.

I spent sixth grade in an "open class" where we combined three classes into one. Got to grade seven and the poor teacher had to teach us 90% of grade six as well as grade seven. It was just a one year experiment we were involved in...🙄