LEMOND STRIKES AGAIN

datakoll said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/sports/playmagazine/0819play-floyd....

A fascinating article (a bit overwritten) if only for the fact that it
seems to be a relatively complete treatment of Floyd's situtation
without resort to the bias, brief snippets, sound bites and repetition
(of accurate or inaccurate information) that are so pervasive in
current media.

I'm rooting for Floyd but I have no idea whether he did or didn't "do
it."

DR

itsa expansive sofa: room for flasher LeMond in cape, Vino, Raz,
Basso, ....

datakoll said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/sports/playmagazine/0819play-floyd....

Good read. Thanks for the link.

Pat said:

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Quoted message said:

Good read. Thanks for the link.

It does make me wonder why LeMond keeps calling these high profile guys and
then his version of the conversation is always different from their
versions.

Maybe his "version" is the more accurate? Who has more to lose, Lemond
or Armstrong, Landis, etc.?

Quoted message said:

Is he off his nut or something? Can't stand to be out of the lime
light? My idea a long time ago was that he just can't stand for any American
to win the Tour after he won it. He seems to want to destroy any American
who dares to win the thing.

Where did you get those ideas?

.....

Quoted message said:

Good read. Thanks for the link.

It does make me wonder why LeMond keeps calling these high profile guys and
then his version of the conversation is always different from their
versions. Is he off his nut or something? Can't stand to be out of the lime
light? My idea a long time ago was that he just can't stand for any American
to win the Tour after he won it. He seems to want to destroy any American
who dares to win the thing.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Where did you get those ideas?

from the same hole Lemond and Landis were standing in.

datakoll said:

Quoted message said:

Where did you get those ideas?

from the same hole Lemond and Landis were standing in.

Floyd ( if he did dope to win stage 17) would've been better off
settleing for 2nd or 3rd or whatever it would've been; even last.
Can't imagine how ANYONE would want to risk everything and end up like
floyd now- good anti-doping mascot

Quoted message said:

datakoll said:

Quoted message said:

Where did you get those ideas?

Quoted message said:

from the same hole Lemond and Landis were standing in.

Floyd ( if he did dope to win stage 17) would've been better off
settleing for 2nd or 3rd or whatever it would've been; even last.
Can't imagine how ANYONE would want to risk everything and end up like
floyd now- good anti-doping mascot

Landis never struck me the Sharpest-Tool-in-the-Shed. Maybe he thought
he was doing something to cover his tracks (like testosterone with a
Jack Daniels chaser?).

Pat said:

You totally missed my point. Why is this over-the-hill out of the limelight
guy calling whoever is in the news on the telephone and then going back to
the reporters to give a totally different version of the call?

Armstrong called Lemond. E.g.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1841300

Landis called Lemond. E.g. http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12271.0.html

Initially, Lemond praised Landis as being "clean" and a "great guy."

BTW, I don't think Ozark missed your point.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It does make me wonder why LeMond keeps calling these high profile guys
and
then his version of the conversation is always different from their
versions.

Maybe his "version" is the more accurate? Who has more to lose, Lemond
or Armstrong, Landis, etc.?

You totally missed my point. Why is this over-the-hill out of the limelight
guy calling whoever is in the news on the telephone and then going back to
the reporters to give a totally different version of the call? Why does he
even pick up the telephone in the first place? You didn't call Landis or
Armstrong, did you? What is the driving force behind Lemond jumping into the
spotlight to make these calls? Is everybody lying but him? Why does he
create news this way?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is he off his nut or something? Can't stand to be out of the lime
light? My idea a long time ago was that he just can't stand for any
American
to win the Tour after he won it. He seems to want to destroy any American
who dares to win the thing.

Where did you get those ideas?

Because of his actions, that's why. There is absolutely no reason for him to
call these riders AND then go to the press to get his 15 minutes of fame.
Does he call riders from other countries who won the Tour after Lemond's
last win? Did he call every one of them and make accusations or is it only
the American riders?

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

Reid said:

Pat said:

You totally missed my point. Why is this over-the-hill out of the limelight
guy calling whoever is in the news on the telephone and then going back to
the reporters to give a totally different version of the call?

Armstrong called Lemond. E.g.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1841300

Landis called Lemond. E.g.http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12271.0.html

Initially, Lemond praised Landis as being "clean" and a "great guy."

BTW, I don't think Ozark missed your point.

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

Yeah, out my backdoor: <http://www.milorganite.com/home/>.

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Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

Yeah, out my backdoor: <http://www.milorganite.com/home/>.

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sherman? do you live on a golf course?

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

Yeah, out my backdoor: <http://www.milorganite.com/home/>.

sherman? do you live on a golf course?

gene, gene, gene! You need to get your mind IN the gutter!

Hint: My outgoing plumbing connects to MMSD.

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Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

Yeah, out my backdoor: <http://www.milorganite.com/home/>.

--

Tom, when people call ya a 'sack of fertilizer', that's not what they
have in mind! ;-)

that's rich!

Ozark Bicycle said:

Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

datakoll aka gene daniels said:

the point is what's out your back door is not what's out Lemond/
Landis' backdoor now or then...

Yeah, out my backdoor: <http://www.milorganite.com/home/>.

--

Tom, when people call ya a 'sack of fertilizer', that's not what they
have in mind! ;-)

butbutbut, when I flush I am contributing raw material for Milorganite
production.

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evryone has a position here!

whew.
i wrote on this as (sorry) as I thought the incident boiled in its
place and time. Kinda quirky relevant to you know landmines uhiuh
Sudan....WTC NHL strike that kinda thing. Also I was mistaken where
the incident occured-my information was at the TdF on site. wrong
again.
So when i saw the NYT photo, I was amused by the black humor (the
entire disaster no longer quirky) of Llody's expression at whathisname
uhuh Lemond coming thru the door wearing a cape, flash throwing it
open to expose himself then running out to vanish in the smog.
but the response is a lynch mob.
I guesss it's not funny anymore.