Less blood circulation to legs

"Humber Consumer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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My mom had a clot in head for two years. She has been on
different types of medicine including blood thinners.
Lately she had been complaining about severe pain in her
legs. The doc ordered MRI and XRays and stuff. The results
are not in yet but doc thinks it is less blood circulation
to legs! My question is what is the reason for having low
blood circulation to legs

Cardiovascular disease most likely.

and can it be cured?

Yeah....your mom needs Chelation Therapy. Possibly some
Heart strengthening nutrients like co-enzyme Q10. Magnesium
is good for keeping a regular heartbeat. Get her to see a
Naturopathic Doctor.

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Thanks
PS: My mom lives in India.

Your Welcome.

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Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs
From: "RB" [email hidden]
Date: 3/12/2004 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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"Humber Consumer"

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The results are not in yet but doc

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thinks it is less blood circulation to legs! My question
is what is the reason for having low blood circulation
to legs

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Cardiovascular disease most likely.

actually the term is "peripheral vascular disease" rubber
brain...big difference

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and can it be cured?

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Yeah....your mom needs Chelation

dear consumer....there is NOOOOO evidence that chelation
therapy can do anything regarding PVD...please have your mom
see a qualified doctor

RB adds:

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Possibly some Heart strengthening

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Magnesium is good for keeping a regular heartbeat. Get her
to see a Naturopathic Doctor.

a. consumer said NOTHING about an irregular heartbeat...so
your "advice" is not relevant

b. a naturapathic doctor?? the lady needs to see a
REAL doctor..

rb....this "advice" borders on practicing medicine without a
license...as you obviously do NOT know what you are talking
about...and are giving "advice" to a person..in a far away
land..who could be in grave need of REAL professional help..

yikes...and you wonder why we call you rubber brain???
excellent example...

hawki.....

In article <[email hidden]>,

RB said:

"Humber Consumer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
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Quoted message said:

My mom had a clot in head for two years. She has been on
different types of medicine including blood thinners.
Lately she had been complaining about severe pain in her
legs. The doc ordered MRI and XRays and stuff. The
results are not in yet but doc thinks it is less blood
circulation to legs! My question is what is the reason
for having low blood circulation to legs

Cardiovascular disease most likely.

and can it be cured?

Yeah....your mom needs Chelation Therapy. Possibly some
Heart strengthening nutrients like co-enzyme Q10.
Magnesium is good for keeping a regular heartbeat. Get her
to see a Naturopathic Doctor.

Please note that RB is not a physician, knows nothing of
medical matters, and is not a reliable source of
information.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs From: "RB"
[email hidden] Date: 3/12/2004 5:32 PM Pacific
Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Humber Consumer"

Quoted message said:

The results are not in yet but doc

Quoted message said:

thinks it is less blood circulation to legs! My
question is what is the reason for having low blood
circulation to legs

Quoted message said:

Cardiovascular disease most likely.

actually the term is "peripheral vascular disease" rubber
brain...big difference

Quoted message said:

and can it be cured?

Quoted message said:

Yeah....your mom needs Chelation

dear consumer....there is NOOOOO evidence that chelation
therapy can do anything regarding PVD...please have your
mom see a qualified doctor

RB adds:

Quoted message said:

Possibly some Heart strengthening

Quoted message said:

Magnesium is good for keeping a regular heartbeat. Get
her to see a Naturopathic Doctor.

a. consumer said NOTHING about an irregular heartbeat...so
your "advice"

is not

Quoted message said:

relevant

b. a naturapathic doctor?? the lady needs to see a REAL
doctor..

rb....this "advice" borders on practicing medicine without
a license...as

you

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obviously do NOT know what you are talking about...and are
giving "advice"

to a

Quoted message said:

person..in a far away land..who could be in grave
need of REAL

professional

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help..

yikes...and you wonder why we call you rubber brain???
excellent

example...

Quoted message said:

hawki.....

Oh hawki....you're so funny. Go to bed now.

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313011651.06571.00001395@mb-
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Do your own research, beforing making a decision.

chelationtherapyonline.comp182.htmOpen ↗

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I checked a few and found no real research re' chelation and
poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why not post one URL
re' the research which *proves* it works?

Kim

(Jan) said:

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Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs From:
[email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 3/12/2004
7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>, RB

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"Humber Consumer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> My mom had a clot in head for two years. She has been
> on different types of medicine including blood
> thinners. Lately she had been complaining about severe
> pain in her legs. The doc ordered MRI and XRays and
> stuff. The results are not in yet but doc thinks it is
> less blood circulation to legs! My question is what is
> the reason for having low blood circulation to legs

Cardiovascular disease most likely.

and can it be cured?

Yeah....your mom needs Chelation Therapy. Possibly some
Heart strengthening nutrients like co-enzyme Q10.
Magnesium is good for keeping a regular heartbeat. Get
her to see a Naturopathic Doctor.

Please note that RB is not a physician, knows nothing of
medical matters, and is not a reliable source of
information.

In organized member David Wright's opinion.

RB used chelation, it worked!

There are studies that prove it, they just aren't
recognized by *organized medicine* who is much more
interested in their EGO than suffering people.

Do your own research, beforing making a decision.

chelationtherapyonline.comp182.htmOpen ↗

mindbody-md.comchelation.htmOpen ↗

chelationforlife.comDefault.htmOpen ↗

But, Jan, this has a link which says "Shopping cart" and
which leads to a place where you can buy things.

Bad web site!!! Spamming web site!!! Bad, Jan!!

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Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs From: "Kim"
[email hidden] Date: 3/12/2004 11:08 PM Pacific Standard
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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313011651.06571.00001395@mb-
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Do your own research, before making a decision.

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chelationtherapyonline.comp182.htmOpen ↗
=========================
I checked a few and found no real research re' chelation
and poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why not post one
URL re' the research which *proves* it works?

Kim

Keep checking, I did.

Jan

Yes, there are some lies from Gary Null about peripheral
vascular matters on that SPAMMING web site which sells
stuff. I am surprised that Jan links to it, given the way it
has stuff for sale.

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313022947.06571.00001411@mb-
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Quoted message said:

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I checked a few and found no real research re' chelation
and poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why not post one
URL re' the research

which

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

*proves* it works?

Kim

Keep checking, I did.

Jan

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"Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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peripheral vascular

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matters on that SPAMMING web site which sells stuff. I am
surprised that Jan links to it, given the way it has stuff
for sale.

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I don't read COMMERCIAL websites pushing any kind of medical
gadgetry, cures, herbs or conventional/unconventional meds.
Perhaps she can find a non-commercial site for everyone to
check out. I could not.
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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs From:
[email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 3/12/2004
7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
<[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>, RB

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"Humber Consumer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
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> My mom had a clot in head for two years. She has been
> on different types of medicine including blood
> thinners. Lately she had been complaining about severe
> pain in her legs. The doc ordered MRI and XRays and
> stuff. The results are not in yet but doc thinks it is
> less blood circulation to legs! My question is what is
> the reason for having low blood circulation to legs

Cardiovascular disease most likely.

and can it be cured?

Yeah....your mom needs Chelation Therapy. Possibly some
Heart

strengthening

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

nutrients like co-enzyme Q10. Magnesium is good for
keeping a regular heartbeat. Get her to see a
Naturopathic Doctor.

Please note that RB is not a physician, knows nothing of
medical matters, and is not a reliable source of
information.

In organized member David Wright's opinion.

RB used chelation, it worked!

However, it caused rb to be like s/h/it is, and, thus the
side effects are horrible.

Quoted message said:

There are studies that prove it, they just aren't
recognized by *organized medicine* who is much more
interested in their EGO than suffering people.

Do your own research, beforing making a decision.

Bad advice snipped.

His mommy hasn't told him he could yet.

"RB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Oh hawki....you're so funny. Go to bed now.

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Subject: Less blood circulation to legs
From: [email hidden] (Humber Consumer)
Date: 3/12/2004 9:58 AM Mountain Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

My mom had a clot in head for two years. She has been on
different types of medicine including blood thinners.
Lately she had been complaining about severe pain in her
legs. The doc ordered MRI and XRays and stuff. The results
are not in yet but doc thinks it is less blood circulation
to legs! My question is what is the reason for having low
blood circulation to legs and can it be cured? Thanks
PS: My mom lives in India.

Int Angiol. 1992 Jul-Sep;11(3):169-75. Related
Articles, Links

Haemodilution in patients with peripheral arterial
occlusive disease.

Kiesewetter H, Jung F, Erdlenbruch W, Wenzel E.

Department of Clinical Haemostasiology and Transfusion
Medicine, University of the Saarland, Homburg-Saar, Germany.

Haemodilution is an efficient conservative therapy of
peripheral arterial occlusive disease. Already a single
isovolaemic haemodilution (replacement of 500 ml blood for
Haes* 0.5, 10%) increases the pain-free walking distance by
85%. These effects can be maintained by a constant therapy
over six weeks and following haemodilution once or twice per
month. The haematocrit values should be between 38 and 42%.
The haemodilution should be done hyper- or isovolaemically.
Not more than 250 ml blood and 500 ml Haes should be infused
during one session in order to avoid hypovolaemia. This
means an infusion of 250 ml Haes, venesection of 250 ml
blood via the same access and then infusion of the remaining
250 ml. The whole procedure should not last more than one
hour. Blood pressure, heart rate, lung auscultation and
percussion as well as creatinine values has to be controlled
during an intensive therapy. If the hydroxyethyl starch
concentration exceeds 150 g per week pruritus may occur in
singular cases, if the concentration exceeds 700 g per week
it is observed in 50% of the cases. Provided the preventive
measures are observed haemodilution is an efficient and good
therapy which also increases the compliance to practice
vascular exercise.

PMID: 1281205 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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"I can't find anything and I don't know what I am talking
about so it must be incorrect"

oooops...the truth came out again.

Chelation works. 250 million people can't be wrong.

"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313145455.26484.00001441@mb-
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<< I checked a few and found no real research re'
chelation and poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why not
post one URL re' the research

which

Quoted message said:

*proves* it works? >>

Wow, you checked...I'm impressed... NOT

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well
dance." (Jessie

Winchester).

(Jan) said:

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Subject: Re: Less blood circulation to legs From: "Kim"
[email hidden] Date: 3/13/2004 1:52 AM Pacific Standard
Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313022947.06571.00001411@mb-
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>=========================
>I checked a few and found no real research re'
>chelation and poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why
>not post one URL re' the research

which

Quoted message said:

>*proves* it works?
>
>Kim

Keep checking, I did.

Jan

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Sorry it wasn't there. Try again.

No need to continue lying.

No need to continue spamming.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Gymmy Bob said:

"I can't find anything and I don't know what I am talking
about so it must be incorrect"

oooops...the truth came out again.

Chelation works. 250 million people can't be wrong.

I really, seriously doubt you can find 250 million people
who've undergone chelation therapy, even worldwide.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

<< I checked a few and found no real research re'
chelation and poor circulation in one's feet/legs. Why
not post one URL re' the research

which

Quoted message said:

*proves* it works? >>

Wow, you checked...I'm impressed... NOT

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well
dance." (Jessie

Winchester).

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sorry it still wasn't there. Try again.
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personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
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No need to continue lying.

chelationforlife.comDefault.htmOpen ↗

Forthy five studies on this website!!!

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No need for diversion. Kim lied.

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"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040313172209.20240.00001221@mb-

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What did you take that made you so ugly and horrible?

Whatever the doctor has

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prescribed to you, stop taking it.....and try eating
sugar....it will help

your

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deposition...

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Practicing medicine without a lic? Sugar is not a healthy
substance. Strange you had no clue.....
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"DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<< However, it caused rb to be like s/h/it is, and, thus
the side effects

are

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horrible. >>

What did you take that made you so ugly and horrible?
Whatever the doctor

has

Quoted message said:

prescribed to you, stop taking it.....and try eating
sugar....it will help

your

Quoted message said:

deposition...

I am not giving a *deposition* this week. However, I am
testifying.

Thanks for your advice.