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  1. I was wondering how people progressed, because I could do a 4 foot drop
    before I could idle, what order did other people progress?

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  2. I learned to

    1. ride forward
    2. freemount

    At that time i didnt even know people rode off 4 foot drops and did
    trials and MUni. About 6 months after i started riding i (i only rode a
    couple times after freemount and riding forwards because i didnt you
    there were anything else to do) looked on the internet and found the
    skill levels, the unicon 12 videos, and some street videos. I got my
    unicycle back out and learned some more stuff.

    I can do much more now.I learned everything levels 1-4 and i learned to
    wheel walk, hop on tire (with tranisitions), a small coast, one foot
    riding with both feet, and one foot idling with both feet. I started
    some trials stuff do and learned to ride off picnic tables, crank grabs,
    prehops, and riding skinnies, and grinding.

    I can idle almost forever now and my highest drop is about 3' 6".

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  3. Yeah, pretting interesting. I have a friend who still can't idle but
    goes off big drops. He says he sees no point in learning to idle. He
    says all he needs to do is get up and go forwards. I've tried to
    enlighten him but he's stubborn and won't learn. Go figure. I learned
    to idle before I even dropped off a curb.

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  4. I was jumping stair cases before I could idle, ^^! But yeah I can idle
    now, both feet infact, I learned to idle one day at work, I was working
    at a gass station then, and it was during an ice storm, so I just
    practiced idling in the corner away from the cameras all day. (no cars)
    I had it down fairily well by the end of they day.

    after that I learned
    one foot idle,
    idle left foot
    Ride backwards

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  5. idling took me about a week to get down so i could do as long as i
    wanted or till i got tired. I can only idle with my other foot down like
    30 times or so.

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  6. slamman said:

    I was wondering how people progressed, because I could do a 4 foot drop
    before I could idle, what order did other people progress?

    Ride, Freemount, Idle, Backwards, 1ft Idle, 1ft Ride, Wheel Walk, 1ft
    Wheel Walk, Glide.

    I still can't "ride or hop over a 10x10cm obstacle" for my level 3.
    Seriously.

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  7. When I learned to idle, doing 4' drops was considered an extremely bad
    idea to do with any unicycle on the market. You have learned to ride in
    a different era, my friend!

    WWUunicycler said:

    *I have a friend who still can't idle but goes off big drops. He says
    he sees no point in learning to idle.*


    He's lazy. He'll figure it out eventually. By one measure, I don't
    consider a person a "full" unicyclist until they can freemount, ride
    forward and ride backward. Idling kind of comes along with riding
    backward. Until your friend learns to find reverse, he's only half a
    unicyclist!

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  8. johnfoss said:

    * Until your friend learns to find reverse, he's only half a
    unicyclist! *

    HEAR HEAR!

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  9. I could glide before I ever hopped up a curb. I could coast, ride with
    my hands, and wheel walk backward before I was really comfortable
    hopping up curbs. I learned stand-up glide and side ride before I
    learned to hop up steps. I still haven't ridden down more than three
    steps at a time.

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  10. I guess that's the difference between street/trials/muni riders and
    freestyle riders: The former are big on obstacles and learn to do big
    jumps way before anything techinical. Freestylers are the opposite, and
    they pretty much follow the levels exactly. For instance, how is
    "Hop-twist 180 degrees to the left" a level 7 skill and "Idle with
    opposite foot down 25 times" as level 4 skill? I could do 180s, grind
    ledges, jump down 3 sets, and hop up 15 sets way before i could even
    idle with my strong foot down.

    JSM, your progression seems weird and backwards to me, but i'm sure that
    mine seems weird and backwards to you. It all depends on which style
    you ride, that's all.

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  11. WWUunicycler said:

    *I have a friend who still can't idle but goes off big drops. He says
    he sees no point in learning to idle.*

    To be honest I agree with him. I learned to idle when I first started
    riding but haven't done it for ages, so my idling is probably really
    shonky now.

    I just don't see a need for it when doing distance riding, muni-ing or
    trials. A standstill with little correcting hops uses less energy than
    idling, takes less space, leaves the pedals in a perfect position for
    doing pretty much anything at any time, and leaves you in a more stable
    position than wobbling back and forth.

    Phil

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  12. Since getting back on the uni about 18 months ago (I learned to ride as
    a kid) I concentrated on Muni but fiddled with basic freestyle tricks as
    well (WWing and so forth). Of all the skills I´ve worked on so far,
    difficult rolling (Muni) down steep, rocky terrain has by far been the
    hardest and slow to master, as well as the most difficult to stay
    consistant and the one that´s given me the most injuries. Yeah, it´s
    impossible to rate rolling on a skill level since every single track is
    different, but when I see someone roll (as opposed to side hop down) one
    of those bleak stretches up in Santa Barbara I gotta think I´m watching
    a level 10 skill.

    JL

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  13. vivalargo said:

    *but when I see someone roll (as opposed to side hop down) one of
    those bleak stretches up in Santa Barbara I gotta think I´m watching a
    level 10 skill. *

    I caught myself nodding as i read that. 😄

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  14. jsm said:

    *I could glide before I ever hopped up a curb. I could coast, ride
    with my hands, and wheel walk backward before I was really comfortable
    hopping up curbs. I learned stand-up glide and side ride before I
    learned to hop up steps. *


    Sounds like jsm did most of his riding in a gym. Riding only in a gym
    also has disadvantages. You will not be very good at riding over even
    small bumps, let alone curbs and serious bad pavement.

    We each learn to ride according to our riding enviroment, and of course
    according to our interests. If you got into unicycling because you saw a
    clip of Kris Holm on TV, you might not ever consider idling, while
    riding on ledges will be considered a mandatory skill.

    vivalargo said:

    *but when I see someone roll (as opposed to side hop down) one of
    those bleak stretches up in Santa Barbara I gotta think I´m watching a
    level 10 skill. *


    I love rolling the hard stuff. Hopping is for stuff that can't be
    rolled! And if it can't be rolled, try rolling it a few more times...

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  15. phil said:

    *I just don't see a need for it when doing distance riding, muni-ing
    or trials. A standstill with little correcting hops uses less energy
    than idling, takes less space, leaves the pedals in a perfect position
    for doing pretty much anything at any time, and leaves you in a more
    stable position than wobbling back and forth.

    Phil *

    ditto

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  16. johnfoss wrote:I love rolling the hard stuff. Hopping

    Quoted message said:

    is for stuff that can't be rolled! And if it can't be rolled, try
    rolling it a few more times... [/B]

    Seems to be the prevailing ethic wherever hard Muni is done, and I´m
    continually amazed by the gnarly terrain that can actually be rolled.
    For me, the hardest part is often just deciding to go for it.

    I´ve seen (and taken) dozens of spectacular steep rolling falls up in
    Santa Barbara, including Hans catapaulting off a 20 foot cliff and on
    Saddle Rock, Eyal flying through the air as though he´d been shot from a
    cannon. For pure buzz and exhileration, steep rolling has gotta be right
    up there with BASE jumping, big wave surfing and solo rockclimbing. I
    drive 200 miles most evey weekend just to get that buzz.

    JL

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  17. I learned.. ride forward, freemount, turn, ride down a curb, idle, ride
    SOIF, idle one footed, jump up a curb, ride one footed, ride backwards,
    wheelwalk, ride stomach on seat, jump stairs (now my muni came into the
    picture, meaning lots of time on the trails, not much new skills for a
    month or so), ride down stairs, one footed wheelwalk, ride SOIB, jump up
    on benches and so on, glide, ride one footed leg extended..

    Right now, i'm practising SOIF hoping, SOIF/SOIB backwards and hop on
    wheel (only the transition back to the pedals left!)

    🙂

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  18. What about needing to learn a new mount every skill level. I only know
    2, static and rollback. I never saw the point to learning another type
    of mount once I could freemount. How many mounts do most people know?

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  19. i can do 9 mounts, and i'm really near acheaving level 5, very close to
    do the ride seat out on side in a circle, and that's the last thing.. i
    think the 1 mount per level is kind of weak! 😉

    I can do.. Static mount, rollbackmount, reverse mount, sidemount,
    jumpmount, suicide mount, rolling mount, static mount to one footed
    idle, mount to wheelwalk, mount to one footed wheelwalk, static mount
    seat out in front, jump mount seat out in front..

    Oops! That's 12, but i don't know if all of them counts 😄😄

    And i'm getting there on the hop on wheel mount!
    Then it's the kickup mount to learn! 🙂

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  20. vivalargo said:

    *For pure buzz and exhileration, steep rolling has gotta be right up
    there with BASE jumping, big wave surfing and solo rockclimbing. I
    drive 200 miles most evey weekend just to get that buzz.*


    That's got to be costing you in gas!

    But when it comes to *steep* rolling, with catapulting riders and hard
    falls, you might just see me chicken out on sections... :p

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