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  1. hey there,. can anyone out there help me with getting liability
    insurance in the u.k.?

    i've tried foning several companies and none have liability insurance
    for "perfromers". im hoping to do uni riding and juggling (maybe at the
    same time!) i need insurnace so i get start doing shows with the council
    here.

    hopefully somone out there can help me!! PLEASE!
    bungle!

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  2. I'm an insurance claims investigator, and I've spent much of the last 20
    years or more dealing with claims involving an element of public
    liability, including motor, household and trade.

    Insurance - liability insurance in particular - is a field rich in myth
    and legend. Most of what you hear isn't true.

    Firstly, if you are pretty sensible, the risk of a claim being made
    against you is almost negligible. For you to be successfully sued under
    English law, you need a whole series of things:
    1) An incident has to happen in the first place.
    2) Someone has to suffer an injury or loss worth making a fuss about.
    3) They have to be the sort of person who makes the effort to sue you.
    (Not as common as the popular press would have you believe.)
    4) They have to show to the satisfaction of a court that the accident
    or loss was the result of your negligence or breach of statutory duty.
    5) Then they have to show to the satisfaction of a court that their
    financial loss, or entitlement to compensation arose from the
    accident.
    6) You are entitled to argue that they were partly to blame either for
    the accident or for part of the loss.
    7) You are entitled to argue that the accident was partly or wholly the
    fault of someone else such as the event organiser, or the owner of the
    premises.

    So, don't go through life being worried about being sued.

    That said, most people organising events will expect performers to have
    some form of Public Liability insurance. This is the insurance which is
    there to deal with any claim made by a member of the public who has been
    injured or had property lost or damaged as a result of an incident.

    If you are performing in your own right and as a private individual, not
    charging (e.g. a one-off display at a local fete) then you will almost
    certainly be insured under the Family and Occupier's Liability Section
    of your household contents insurance.

    If you are performing as part of a troupe or band, and/or charging, then
    you may well need a special Public Liability policy.

    Because the risk is so small (almost negligible, in fact) the premium
    ought to be very small indeed. However, insurers tend to overcharge for
    anything a little bit unusual, partly to cover the additional admin, and
    partly because they have little experience of the actual risks presented
    by an unusual activity, and play safe. Insurance is all about
    probability and statistics; without data, it is impossible for them to
    assess the risk.

    If you already have a connection with an insurer - especially a
    household insurer - it might be a good idea to start with them. Most
    insurers are reluctant to offer cover for unusual risks to people who
    don't already have core business with them.

    Failing that, you could buy a copy of The Stage, a weekly newspaper for
    the performing public, which may well have details of specialist brokers
    and agents.

    On matters of general insurance advice, I'm always willing to answer
    genuine questions. You can PM me.

    Mike

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  3. Here's a link to the website for The Stage:
    http://www.thestage.co.uk/

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  4. Here's a copy and paste from the same site:

    Musical equipment/props cover. All risks cover UK/Europe, worldwide,
    premises only, unattended vehicle.

    Public Liability Insurance also available. Ring Equity Insurance
    Services on 0845 7441111 . A trading name of Robert J Hurst Ltd, member
    of the General Insurance Standards Council.

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  5. These people may also be able to point you in the right direction:

    http://www.vocalist.org.uk/singers_insurance.html

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  6. Dixon Chalmers do liability which covers most circus performance except
    trapeze and tightrope acts.

    I think they're the only people who'll cover fire performance. I've
    known a few people who have liability cover with them. They do it on a
    yearly basis starting in Autumn some time, which means if you buy it in
    June it's poor value. I think it costs about £90 a year last time I
    heard.

    If you've got proof of performances, you can get cover with Equity (the
    performer's union type thing), they only cover people who are real
    performers. I think they won't cover fire if you like burning stuff
    though.

    More on it here, although I'm not sure if it's up to date -

    <http://tinyurl.com/9z7wu>

    I think pretty much any public body requires liability insurance
    nowadays for performers, I know when I was asked to unicycle at a school
    fete I was required to get insurance to do it.

    Joe

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  7. Dixon Chalmers are now under the umbrella of Country Mutual,
    give 'em a ring on
    01952 641321
    They're very helpful...
    and it closer to double what Joe suggested depending on the value
    of equity you go for...

    Andy

    joemarshall said:

    Dixon Chalmers do liability which covers most circus performance


    except

    Quoted message said:

    trapeze and tightrope acts.

    I think they're the only people who'll cover fire performance. I've
    known a few people who have liability cover with them. They do it on


    a

    Quoted message said:

    yearly basis starting in Autumn some time, which means if you buy it


    in

    Quoted message said:

    June it's poor value. I think it costs about £90 a year last time I
    heard.

    If you've got proof of performances, you can get cover with Equity


    (the

    Quoted message said:

    performer's union type thing), they only cover people who are real
    performers. I think they won't cover fire if you like burning stuff
    though.

    More on it here, although I'm not sure if it's up to date -

    <http://tinyurl.com/9z7wu>

    I think pretty much any public body requires liability insurance
    nowadays for performers, I know when I was asked to unicycle at a


    school

    Quoted message said:

    fete I was required to get insurance to do it.

    Joe

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  8. for a club in the UK ( NOT solo performer) its worth looking at the
    Community choice policey from Zurich Municiple. Two or three uni clubs
    are already covered by them. It covers club kit, some money and PLI for
    volunteers during club events. read the small print tho.

    SArah

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