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  1. [thought I'd pass this along...]

    LIFE IN THE 1500'S

    The next time you are washing your hands and complain
    because the water temperature isn't just how you like it,
    think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about
    the 1500s:

    These are interesting...

    Most people got married in June because they took their
    yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by June.
    However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a
    bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom
    today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man
    of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then
    all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the
    children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so
    dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the
    saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

    Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no
    wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get
    warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs)
    lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and
    sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.
    Hence the saying:

    "It's raining cats and dogs."

    There was nothing to stop things from falling into the
    house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs
    and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed.
    Hence, a bed with big posts and sheet hung over the top
    afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into
    existence.

    The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other
    than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had
    slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet
    , so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their
    footing. As the winter wore on, they adding more thresh
    until when you opened the door it would all start slipping
    outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway.
    Hence the saying a "thresh hold."

    (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

    In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big
    kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit
    the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly
    vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the
    stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold
    overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew
    had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence
    the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas
    porridge in the pot nine days old."

    Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite
    special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their
    bacon to show off. It was sign of wealth that a man could
    "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share
    with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."

    Those with money had plates made of pewter Food with high
    acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food,
    causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with
    tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were
    considered poisonous.

    Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt
    bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests
    got the top, or "upper crust."

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination
    would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.
    Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and
    prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen
    table for a couple of days and the family would gather
    around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake
    up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake."

    England is old and small and the local folks started running
    out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins
    and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the
    grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins
    were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they
    realized they had been burying people alive. So they would
    tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the
    coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.
    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night
    (the "graveyard shift"😉 to listen for the bell; thus,
    someone could be "saved by the bell " or was considered a
    "dead ringer."

    And that's the truth... Now, whoever said that History
    was boring!!!

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  2. Gregory Morrow said:

    [thought I'd pass this along...]

    Why? <http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm>

    --

    -Jeff B. yeff at erols dot com

  3. Gregory Morrow said:

    Most people got married in June because they took their
    yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by June.
    However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a
    bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom
    today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

    Really? If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I
    start to get very aromatic! The only time I do not take a
    bath is when I am sick and I know I will not be going out
    at all that day.

    I am thankful I am alive at this time. I can lay in bed and
    post messages like this with my Powerbook via my wi-fi
    service while I prepare for a talk I plan to give this
    Saturday on computer programming on the Mac. Life is good!

  4. Yeff said:
    Gregory Morrow said:

    [thought I'd pass this along...]

    Why? <http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm>

    Ah hah. I *thought* this had the flavor of urban myth.

    However, the BBC/PBS 'House' series makes one give
    enthusiastic thanks for living in an age of detergents,
    electricity, indoor plumbing, and "labor-saving" appliances.

  5. Yeff said:
    Gregory Morrow said:

    [thought I'd pass this along...]

    Why? <http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm>

    Heck, I can't get *anything* past you birds ;---)

    --
    Best Greg

  6. Yeff said:
    Gregory Morrow said:

    [thought I'd pass this along...]

    Why? <http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm>

    Maybe so, but I still found it amusing 🙂

    Jill

  7. Quoted message said:

    Gregory Morrow

    Quoted message said:

    Most people got married in June because they took their
    yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by
    June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides
    carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when
    getting married.

    Really? If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I
    start to get very aromatic! The only time I do not take a
    bath is when I am sick and I know I will not be going out
    at all that day.

    A few hundred years ago (in Europe) it was considered
    unhealthy to bathe...apparently it was considered some kind
    of un - Christian thing or something like that....

    Why do you think the French "invented" perfume...it was to
    mask the horrible body odors that ensued from months of not
    bathing (or so I've heard)....

    Quoted message said:

    I am thankful I am alive at this time. I can lay in bed
    and post messages like this with my Powerbook via my wi-fi
    service while I prepare for a talk I plan to give this
    Saturday on computer programming on the Mac. Life is good!

    It is ;-) Did you know that as late as 1940 almost half of
    US households did not have indoor flush toilets?

    --
    Best Greg

  8. Quoted message said:


    Gregory Morrow

    Quoted message said:

    Most people got married in June because they took their
    yearly bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by
    June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides
    carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when
    getting married.

    Really? If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I
    start to get very aromatic! The only time I do not take a
    bath is when I am sick and I know I will not be going out
    at all that day.


    <snip>

    People bathed far more than once a year, although lacking
    easily available hot water in winter it was hardly daily.
    Religous festivals often required ablutions for purification
    and there were a lot of those every year. Certainly since
    Roman times, there were well-used public baths in most
    European towns.

    While nosegays/bouquets were sometimes carried to mask
    general odours, they were believed to ward off disease,
    particularly the Plague.

  9. On 3 Jun 2004 03:39:22 GMT, [email hidden] arranged random neurons,
    so they looked like this:

    Quoted message said:

    Really? If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I
    start to get very aromatic! The only time I do not take a
    bath is when I am sick and I know I will not be going out
    at all that day.

    I am thankful I am alive at this time. I can lay in bed and
    post messages like this with my Powerbook via my wi-fi
    service while I prepare for a talk I plan to give this
    Saturday on computer programming on the Mac. Life is good!

    Life would be better in SoCal if I had a NY style deli for
    hand carved pastrami on rye, dammit! I am soooo envious,
    Stan! That was a rockin' brunch and I hope we can do it
    again one of these days.

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
    had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
    been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
    good dinner." Duncan Hines

    To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  10. Quoted message said:

    If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I start to
    get very aromatic!

    And that's why the French "invented" perfume.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  11. Gregory Morrow said:
    Yeff said:
    Gregory Morrow said:

    [thought I'd pass this along...]

    Why? <http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm>

    Heck, I can't get *anything* past you birds ;---)

    Anymore, if someone passes along an email about blue
    skies and green grass I head on over to Snopes to check
    it out. <g>

    -Jeff B. (cynical skeptic (or skeptical cynic)) yeff at
    erols dot com

  12. Quoted message said:

    It is ;-) Did you know that as late as 1940 almost half of
    US households did not have indoor flush toilets?

    --
    Best Greg

    My grandparents didn't have one well into the 1950's.

    John

  13. Gregory Morrow said:


    A few hundred years ago (in Europe) it was considered
    unhealthy to bathe...apparently it was considered some
    kind of un - Christian thing or something like that....

    Supposedly a reaction against Roman cleanliness.

    Quoted message said:

    Did you know that as late as 1940 almost half of US
    households did not have indoor flush toilets?

    The indoor flush toilet was invented in the late 1800s. The
    inventor was named Crapper, so the word [censored] appears to be a
    retrofit from his name. He was beknighted by Queen Victoria
    for the invention.

    I don't find it surprising that it took almost an entire
    lifetime for flush toilets to be everywhere in the US.

  14. Gregory Morrow said:

    Did you know that as late as 1940 almost half of US
    households did not have indoor flush toilets?

    I was around in the late 40s living in New York city and
    every one I knew had indoor plumbing. I think that
    outdoor plumbing would be in the more rural areas of the
    U.S. Pan Ohco

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    On 3 Jun 2004 03:39:22 GMT, [email hidden] arranged
    random neurons, so they looked like this:

    Quoted message said:

    Really? If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I
    start to get very aromatic! The only time I do not take a
    bath is when I am sick and I know I will not be going out
    at all that day.

    I am thankful I am alive at this time. I can lay in bed
    and post messages like this with my Powerbook via my wi-
    fi service while I prepare for a talk I plan to give
    this Saturday on computer programming on the Mac. Life
    is good!

    Life would be better in SoCal if I had a NY style deli for
    hand carved pastrami on rye, dammit! I am soooo envious,
    Stan! That was a rockin' brunch and I hope we can do it
    again one of these days.

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    Funny that you mentioned that Terry.

    I was watching Sharon Osbourne and she and her guest were
    talking about how bland the food is in the LA area.

  16. Gregory Morrow said:

    A few hundred years ago (in Europe) it was considered
    unhealthy to bathe...apparently it was considered some
    kind of un - Christian thing or something like that....

    I doubt it was unchristian... but I do believe it was
    inconvenient. Consider the logistics of getting the water,
    heating it and then bathing in it.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  17. Arri London said:


    While nosegays/bouquets were sometimes carried to mask
    general odours, they were believed to ward off disease,
    particularly the Plague.

    Nosegays were used to mask the odor of death during
    the plague.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  18. sf said:


    Quoted message said:

    If I go for a couple of days without a bath, I start to
    get very aromatic!

    And that's why the French "invented" perfume.

    Where does this idea that the French invented perfume come
    from?? The ancient Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, Persians,
    Indians and the Chinese all developed and used perfumes a
    few thousand years ago.

  19. "John D. Misrahi" & Greg,

    : >It is ;-) Did you know that as late as 1940 almost
    : >half of US
    households
    : >did not have indoor flush toilets?
    : >
    : >--
    : >Best Greg
    : >
    : >
    :
    :
    : My grandparents didn't have one well into the 1950's.
    :
    : John
    :
    : =====

    A friend of mine from Kentucky didn't have indoor plumbing
    (at all!) until the mid 70s.

    --
    Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply

  20. Doug Freyburger said:

    The indoor flush toilet was invented in the late 1800s.
    The inventor was named Crapper, so the word [censored] appears
    to be a retrofit from his name. He was beknighted by Queen
    Victoria for the invention.

    Snopes must be getting a lot of traffic today:

    snopes.comcrapper.asp

    --Lia

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