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  1. can you give me tips on how to learn to idle and how to hop, now i
    have a old old 29 inch oxford, but soon im getting a 24 inch schwinn
    with kenda kenetic and nice pedels

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  2. I assume you haven't tried to hop before?

    When I tried hopping first I looked at it like riding. I balanced on
    something solid, stood up, grabbed under my seat, and began to hop with
    one hand holding a post and the other holding the seat. From there I
    just learned to do it without holding anything. If you are going for a
    no seated hop, just hold a post, slip the seat out from under you, grab
    the seat with the other hand, and start hopping (keep in mind this is
    the way I did it, and it probably isn't the best)

    On the idling aspect, I can't help you. I'm still learning that myself!

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  3. thanks and good luck with the idle

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  4. If you can't freemount, practicing hopping is pretty useless.
    That said, simply freemount into a standstill and then hop.

    The difficult part will be keeping the pressure on your feet even.
    If you hop forward, this will be easier because it gives you momentum to
    counter-act. Put more pressure on the back foot for take-offs and
    landing.
    Kindof - you'll see what I mean.

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  5. digitalattrition said:

    *When I tried hopping first I looked at it like riding. I balanced on
    something solid, stood up, grabbed under my seat, and began to hop
    with one hand holding a post and the other holding the seat. From
    there I just learned to do it without holding anything. *

    This is also they way i did it, and i found it worked very well, once i
    was able to hop i tried hopping about and then trying to ride out,
    finally once i could ride out then i just learnt to ride stop pedals
    level and hop, it dosnt take long at all.

    idling im still getting smoother at and it seemed to take me quite a
    while, but i find being able to ride backwards help ALOT and i would
    recommend learning this first as you can then regain your balance by
    riding out either way hen you start to fall. ( i dont know if that made
    any sense) it was beneficial for me to be able to hop to regain my
    balance and then try and idle again, rather than attempt to idle ,fall
    off, attept ,fall off, etc...

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  6. Hopping is easier than it looks. Be confident when you hop. Only use one
    hand to grab the front of the seat. (I learned by using one hand to hold
    the back and one to hold the front, and now i am trying to unlearn
    that).

    Idling is possibly the most important skill behind riding forwards and
    freemounting, in my opinion. I dont know how to teach you to do it,
    except that there are tons of videos in the gallery that show people
    doing it. This will just ensure you that you are practicing the right
    form. Other than that, just choose whichever foot feels most comfortable
    and start practicing. dont rush it either, it shouldn't be short and
    jerky. smooth and flowing, back and forth, back and forth 🙂

    -grant

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  7. Yeah hoping is easier than it looks, I thought it would be hard, but now
    I can do it. If you can ride then stop with your pedals both at the same
    height and then ride off again thats good. Do that for a little, then
    try and stand up on the pedals. Then maybe work on holding the set and
    jumping up, from there just keep jumping and adjust by hoping around.

    hope that helps,

    Andrew

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  8. I never think something is hard because then it gets harder.I learned
    both, hopping an idling, first, holding on the wall and always took my
    hand of the wall for a short time. I learned hopping on place for 30
    secs. in 2 days, idling took me about half a week.

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  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    IowaKid <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    )can you give me tips on how to learn to idle and how to hop, now i
    )have a old old 29 inch oxford, but soon im getting a 24 inch schwinn
    )with kenda kenetic and nice pedels

    For most people, hopping is pretty easy. You might want to let some air out
    of your tire to make things happen slower. Think of it like a pogo stick;
    it's mostly in your ankles. The trick that makes it different from a pogo
    stick is that you have to worry about keeping equal pressure on each pedal.

    Hopping took me maybe 15 minutes to get. Idling, I worked on for months
    before I got it. I don't think there's much you can do with idling other
    than work on it a lot.
    -Tom

  10. tom_edmonds said:

    This is also they way i did it, and i found it worked very well, once i
    was able to hop i tried hopping about and then trying to ride out,
    finally once i could ride out then i just learnt to ride stop pedals
    level and hop, it dosnt take long at all.

    What he said.

    I expected hopping to be hard because it is a level 3 skill, but I'd
    say doing 5 hops in a row is much easier than dismounting gracefully
    with seat in front, a level 1 skill. I taught my self to do small
    hops one day while riding for exercise on a paved trail. The workout
    was too easy, so I would slow down and hop. After a few tries (and a
    few falls), I could hop forward for 20 or 30 feet before my heart was
    racing and I took off pedalling again to cool down. As with other
    skills, practice makes hopping much more efficient. Which reminds me,
    I really need to practice my hopping onto objects...

    It probably doesn't matter if you start hopping in place or hopping
    forward. Forward hopping just happened to work well for me.

    Idling is another story altogether. It took me 10 minutes of hopping
    in the course of an hour long ride to hop consistently. Idling has
    taken more like 3 months. Not only do you need to get much more
    precise at forward/back balance, but you have to shift your sideways
    balance point and learn to integrate alternating forwards and
    backwards steering corrections into your riding. If is sounds like a
    lot, it is.

    I just started doing single idles (stop, pedal backwards, stop,
    continue forwards) until I could do 50 a day on each side. I fell a
    lot acheiving this goal. Then, I'd do double idles, working up to 50
    a day on each side. More falling. From there, my goal was to so the
    50 in sets as large as I could accomplish without falling, working up
    to. You get the idea. Practice, practice, practice.

    Good luck.

    Ken

  11. thanks everyone😄

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  12. IowaKid said:

    can you give me tips on how to learn to idle

    Hopping is mostly covered, but for idling maybe this extract from
    "Learning to Unicycle" helps:

    Idling is riding half revolutions forward and backwards repeatedly,
    effectively staying on the spot. Learning to idle may take quite a
    while and can be very frustrating, however it is an extremely
    important skill. Firstly, you will often find yourself in a situation
    where you're riding and need to stop for some reason but want to stay
    on the unicycle. This is where idling is very useful. Secondly and
    possibly even more importantly, the coordination you develop in
    learning to idle is needed for many more advanced skills and will give
    you a much greater control of the unicycle.

    · In the "Learning the basics" chapter we have described
    "Rocking on the spot" while holding onto a support. In it, the cranks
    oscillate around the horizontal position. If this is done without
    support it is called "Horizontal Idling". This is more difficult than
    normal idling, which involves oscillating the cranks around the
    vertical position.

    · To start learning (normal) idling, sit on the unicycle beside
    a support with the cranks horizontal. Hold on to your support with one
    or both hands. Lean slightly forward while keeping the wheel
    stationary for a little while. Then pedal forward for half a rotation,
    at the end of which you should be leaning slightly backward.
    Immediately after the forward half rotation, pedal a half rotation
    backwards, at the end of which you should be slightly leaning forward
    again, so you can rightaway start the next idling cycle.

    · Focus on using a pendulum motion as opposed to moving your
    whole body back and forth. That is, your body should ideally stay
    more or less in the same place, while the wheel "swings" forward and
    backward under you. Remember to keep your upper body straight and
    upright and to keep your weight on the seat. Your leading (or
    "strong"😉 foot should be on the bottom and move back and forth past
    the 6 o'clock position.

    · Try to maintain forwards/backwards balance by adjusting the
    timing and power of your pedal strokes, as opposed to pushing the
    support. It is OK to use the support for sideways balance for now, but
    try to push and pull as lightly as possible.

    · If you idle too slowly it will be more difficult to maintain
    balance. On a 20" wheel the idling frequency should be about 1 per
    second, on a 24" wheel it is usually somewhat less.

    · Now it's time to leave your support. Ride forwards in the
    open, not too fast. Slow down while leaning back, throw in one half
    revolution backwards, during which you should regain your forward
    lean. Then continue riding forward. Repeat.

    · If you are somewhat solid at throwing in single idles, try
    inserting two idling cycles at once, then three, etc.

    · The greatest difficulty is usually found in controlling the
    side to side balance. Focus on keeping the unicycle under you rather
    than you staying on top of the uni. If you find yourself leaning too
    far to the right, you must move the wheel to the right to keep it
    underneath you. To do this, twist your lower body to the right as the
    wheel rolls forward and to the left as the wheel rolls backwards.
    That way, you turn the whole unicycle by the seat.

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