Lock Ring on Fixie??

Gags said:

As stated in a previous post, I recently joined the ranks of "those who own
a fixie" - does that make me a "fixee" or a "fixer"??

Anyways, the guy that I bought the bike off owns a bike shop in Lakes
Entrance (Bicycle Passion from memory) and has been riding fixed gear bikes
for years. The rear hub doesn't have a lock ring on it and the guy reckons
that this is good as it allows the cog to unscrew if you manage to lock up
your legs for whatever reason. I was a bit sceptical about this thinking
that it would unwind the first time I tried to control my speed down a hill
by resisting on the pedals but he reckons that I will apply much more
pressure climbing up a hill than I will resisting going down one and so it
is unlikely that the cog will unscrew. Anyone else running a setup like
this??

Also, I have only been for a couple of short rides up and down the street on
the new fixie and it is definately different. It is OK going uphill but I
found that trying to resist on downhill is a bit weird, and at this stage I
am not real good at trackstanding. I can generally trackstand OK on a
normal roadie but I am used to pedalling backwards slightly to get my feet
back into position without actually moving but of course this causes the
whole bike to go backwards. I guess that I need to setup in the right spot
and then rock back and forth slightly. I suggested this to one of the guys
who rides a SS to work and he said that he has seen a guy on a fixie at a
red light doing circles in reverse!!!!! I gotta learn how to do that!!!

Ride On,

Gags

don't worry about it Gags. I've been riding a rear hub that has no
lockring thread and the cog never moved. I've since changed to a record
hub but didn't bother to get a lockring. Once again, the cog hasn't moved.

Rocking backwards is something I'm still getting used to. Just keep
practicing, and maybe unclip one foot until you get more comfy with it.

Now riding your freewheel bikes is gonna feel very weird 🙂

--
Nick

Gags said:

As stated in a previous post, I recently joined the ranks of "those who own
a fixie" - does that make me a "fixee" or a "fixer"??

Anyways, the guy that I bought the bike off owns a bike shop in Lakes
Entrance (Bicycle Passion from memory) and has been riding fixed gear bikes
for years. The rear hub doesn't have a lock ring on it and the guy reckons
that this is good as it allows the cog to unscrew if you manage to lock up
your legs for whatever reason. I was a bit sceptical about this thinking
that it would unwind the first time I tried to control my speed down a hill
by resisting on the pedals but he reckons that I will apply much more
pressure climbing up a hill than I will resisting going down one and so it
is unlikely that the cog will unscrew. Anyone else running a setup like
this??
Gags

Generally, the bike is the "FIXIE" and the rider is the "FIXER".

As for the lockring, it depends on how you ride. If you use your brakes alot and don't resist the pedals, then I think no lockring is OK. I need a lockring coz I rarely use the brake even though it's physically there. In my experience, should you unintentionally lock up your legs, you're more likely to be "thrown off" the bike then have the cog unscrew unless it was badly installed in the 1st place.

Koon

woot!

im thinkin of draggin TB1 out next week if its dry (and warm, and free-beer day, and...)

go study....

63xc.com101 1.htmOpen ↗

PS simplest tip i can give is "don't think"

PPS The freewheeled bike WILL feel like the BB is broken or summat after riding fixed. a wierd sensation...

Gags wrote:
he has seen a guy on a fixie at a

Quoted message said:

red light doing circles in reverse!!!!!

I have gotta see that!

"Gags" <gags_44nospamatnospamtpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

As stated in a previous post, I recently joined the ranks of "those who
own
a fixie" - does that make me a "fixee" or a "fixer"??

Anyways, the guy that I bought the bike off owns a bike shop in Lakes
Entrance (Bicycle Passion from memory) and has been riding fixed gear
bikes
for years. The rear hub doesn't have a lock ring on it and the guy
reckons
that this is good as it allows the cog to unscrew if you manage to lock up
your legs for whatever reason. I was a bit sceptical about this thinking
that it would unwind the first time I tried to control my speed down a
hill
by resisting on the pedals but he reckons that I will apply much more
pressure climbing up a hill than I will resisting going down one and so it
is unlikely that the cog will unscrew. Anyone else running a setup like
this??

Also, I have only been for a couple of short rides up and down the street
on
the new fixie and it is definately different. It is OK going uphill but I
found that trying to resist on downhill is a bit weird, and at this stage
I
am not real good at trackstanding. I can generally trackstand OK on a
normal roadie but I am used to pedalling backwards slightly to get my feet
back into position without actually moving but of course this causes the
whole bike to go backwards. I guess that I need to setup in the right
spot
and then rock back and forth slightly. I suggested this to one of the
guys
who rides a SS to work and he said that he has seen a guy on a fixie at a
red light doing circles in reverse!!!!! I gotta learn how to do that!!!

Ride On,

Gags

I'm riding with no lockring and no problems, even though I'm using the brake
less and less as time goes by. I've found that if I brain fade and try to
coast standing up (usually if I've neglected the fixie for a while) it won't
even think about unscrewing, it just reminds me *very* pointedly that
coasting isn't allowed. Different gearing may change this. I'm running about
72-74" (not sure whether front chainring is 42t or 44t; haven't counted) but
I did unscrew it a couple of times when I had the 20t rear cog which
resulted in about 58" gearing. In other words shorter gearing could make it
easier to unscrew the rear cog due to better leverge. That could also have
been due to the not-quite-appropriate thread pitch though.

Gags said:

As stated in a previous post, I recently joined the ranks of "those who own
a fixie" - does that make me a "fixee" or a "fixer"??

It may make you one of those zealots who endlessly mock the last 70 or so
years of bicycle development :-)

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Gumby said:

Gags wrote:
he has seen a guy on a fixie at a

Quoted message said:

red light doing circles in reverse!!!!!

I have gotta see that!

http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/home.frame.html

Brian Watson said:

Gumby said:

Gags wrote:
he has seen a guy on a fixie at a

Quoted message said:

red light doing circles in reverse!!!!!

I have gotta see that!

http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/home.frame.html

Sorry - that link is bogus, try this one:

http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/junevid900.frame.html

Brian

Gags said:

The rear hub doesn't have a lock ring on it and the guy reckons that this is good as it allows the cog to unscrew if you manage to lock up your legs for whatever reason.

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he reckons that I will apply much more pressure climbing up a hill than I will resisting going down one and so it is unlikely that the cog will unscrew.

Sounds like dodgy advice to me. Your cog will unscrew if your legs lock up but it is unlikely to unsrew because of pressure from climbing. Huh.

Locking legs up is something I have never heard anyone doing. Particularly not on a fixie 😄

Unless you're running two brakes, use a lockring. If one brake fails, you need some sort of backup.

sinus said:

Gags Wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sounds like dodgy advice to me. Your cog will unscrew if your legs
lock up but it is unlikely to unsrew because of pressure from climbing.

Quoted message said:

Locking legs up is something I have never heard anyone doing.
Particularly not on a fixie 😄

My younger brother rode a track bike everywhere in the fifties when we were
both a lot younger. Had no brakes. He could lock up the rear wheel any time.
I could never manage it. He never unscrewed a cog but had lock-rings. His
was a proper two-geared fixie, one cog on each side of the hub. Reverse the
wheel for the other gear. My older brother got cautioned once on his
five-speed by the local copper for doing 42mph in a 35 zone on a level road.
He was passing a car a the time. Hehe.

Theo

Brian Watson said:

Brian Watson said:

Gumby said:

Gags wrote:
he has seen a guy on a fixie at a

>red light doing circles in reverse!!!!!

I have gotta see that!

http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/home.frame.html

Sorry - that link is bogus, try this one:

http://www.oldskooltrack.com/files/junevid900.frame.html

Brian

Nice one cheers
That traffic was moving pretty fast

Theo Bekkers said:

My younger brother rode a track bike everywhere in the fifties when we were both a lot younger. Had no brakes. He could lock up the rear wheel any time.

Skidding is a skill I am learning. Not as easy as i would have thought. Also a bit worried about the amount of tyre tread I am leaving behind

Theo Bekkers said:

He never unscrewed a cog but had lock-rings.

It would be a bit painful having a cog unscrew while skidding. Same hurt as breaking a chain, I would think. Lockrings are cheap insurance AFAIK.

On Topic: lock rings; They're cheap, only $10 or so aren't they? Mine is a
Dura-Ace, and was US$7.95, and the possible carnage that could happen if you
spun the cog off, jammed it in the dropout, and then threw the chain into
the wheel... no thanks.

Off Topic:
I believe "Put your junk on the stem" is the way the required posture for
long skids is usually described.

So any of those exposed bolt, deep drop quill stems would be a touch
dangerous to use when attempting big skids.

I've managed to pop short skids from low speeds on concrete with some
texture, 42x16 on 700c, and get enough force to rotate the wheel backwards
whilst doing it (Does that count as stress relieving?), which then causes it
to hop when I stop resisting.

Clipless pedals help a lot, I'm using Candy SL's on Lake casual shoes. Pick
a foot to lead with, move your weight forwards, then pull up at the front,
push down at the back and slide. Hop the back wheel if it helps.

I've got my new BB in (Big thumbs up to the guys at Bicycle Revolution, West
End, for getting me a Campy BB at a good price, buying the tool and then
letting me install it in their workshop,) so I'll rebuild the bike tonight
and see if I can't find some polished concrete to practice distance on.
Gatorskins have plenty of tread I'm told.

"sinus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Skidding is a skill I am learning. Not as easy as i would have thought.
Also a bit worried about the amount of tyre tread I am leaving behind

It would be a bit painful having a cog unscrew while skidding. Same
hurt as breaking a chain, I would think. Lockrings are cheap insurance
AFAIK.

"sinus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It would be a bit painful having a cog unscrew while skidding. Same
hurt as breaking a chain, I would think. Lockrings are cheap insurance
AFAIK.

It can be pretty painful whether you're skidding or not. If you're riding
track or in a group - use a lockring. Throwing a chain/cog into the wheel,
and losing the ability to stop (if you have no other brakes) can be somewhat
embarrassing. If it happens on the track you'll probably have someone run
up your ring as you try to get off the track, if you're lucky enough not to
have something lock up. More embarassing is to have the cog unscrew as you
head down the ramp into the pits.....

I needed to buy another lockring the other day so I asked at my lbs wether they had one. Not on the rack but there was one on a bike they had sitting in the loft.
It was expensive lockring as I bought the bike it was on 🙂
A 60 cm Blom with Record hubs and seatpost with Dura-ace cranks. The rims are Nisi tubulars which require new tires but I've never ridden on singles before so it should be fun to try.
$150

Cheers

Geoff

geoffs said:

I needed to buy another lockring the other day so I asked at my lbs wether they had one. Not on the rack but there was one on a bike they had sitting in the loft.
It was expensive lockring as I bought the bike it was on 🙂
A 60 cm Blom with Record hubs and seatpost with Dura-ace cranks. The rims are Nisi tubulars which require new tires but I've never ridden on singles before so it should be fun to try.
$150

Cheers

Geoff

what a bargain. Even if the frame didn't fit, it'd be worth it.

i am so jealous.

ps. i think they are $15 at Peter Moore.

Gemma_k said:

embarrassing. If it happens on the track you'll probably have someone run
up your ring as you try to get off the track

That sounds /really/ unpleasant. Does staying seated prevent it?

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was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

geoffs said:

I needed to buy another lockring the other day so I asked at my lbs
wether they had one. Not on the rack but there was one on a bike they
had sitting in the loft.
It was expensive lockring as I bought the bike it was on 🙂
A 60 cm Blom with Record hubs and seatpost with Dura-ace cranks. The
rims are Nisi tubulars which require new tires but I've never ridden on
singles before so it should be fun to try.
$150

what a bargain. Even if the frame didn't fit, it'd be worth it.

i am so jealous.

ps. i think they are $15 at Peter Moore.

Complete with bike? I might have to take a visit 🙂

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TimC
One hundred hairy bugs in the code, one hundred hairy bugs....Fix one
bug, compile it again, 101 hairy bugs. Repeat until BUGS = 0. --unknown

TimC said:

Complete with bike? I might have to take a visit 🙂

for a limited time only, terms and conditions apply, offer expires shortly, not valid with any other offer.....

and then back to regular pricing for accessories that can be purchased with lock rings. Base price, lock ring only, $15 (or something like that).

I went to buy a brake cable and ended up with rim and spokes. The shop is a bit like that - don't go with a credit card unless you've got good self control.