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  1. Helloo

    I'm planning a sponsored 15 mile unicycle ride to raise money for a
    trip to South Africa with my school, and seeing as its the first time
    I'll have done long distance i was wondering if any of you could give
    me some advice on how i should prepare for it, or similar tips for the
    actual journey? Any advice will help because I'm new to all of it...

    Just so you know i am doing it on a 24" as its the biggest i own..

    Thanks 🙂

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  2. Hold your back right.😉

    M@B

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  3. as long as you are a fully confident rider it shouldn't be too hard.
    last weekend I rode 12 km on my 20" and felt fine at the end (took me 1
    hour 15 though 😄 ). with a 24 it should be no trouble. just don't wear
    heavy clothes.

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  4. Take walking breaks every once in a while if you ever start ot feel numb
    "down under"

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  5. I second the hold-your-back thing. It shouldn't take you much longer
    than an hour 45 or 2 hours or so, if you're on a 24 with long cranks.
    Shorter cranks will obviously be faster. But if you remember nothing
    else, remember to keep good posture! 🙂

    My first hard, fast Coker ride was a one-hour circuit ride for a
    unicyclathon, and I averaged pretty well, but by the end I could hardly
    stand up and it was very painful to walk and even to sit down, because
    my back was so flubbed up from leaning forward at my hips slightly the
    entire hour.

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  6. be ready to take some time. Seven to ten miles training rides would do
    fine. It is really a matter of TIS (time in seat). you can do it!

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  7. chuckaeronut said:

    I second the hold-your-back thing. It shouldn't take you much longer
    than an hour 45 or 2 hours or so, if you're on a 24 with long cranks.
    Shorter cranks will obviously be faster. But if you remember nothing
    else, remember to keep good posture! 🙂

    I'd say keep whatever posture is comfortable. I always ride with my
    back very low down. It lowers your centre of gravity and keeps you
    steadier. I probably have the same position on my unicycle as on my
    roadbike when I'm going fast.

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  8. Really, that's cool. Whenever I try to go really fast, I always crouch
    over like you say, Ken, but when I did that for a whole hour, my back
    just about gave out. I think it was because I was using the muscles in
    my lower back to literally hold up my upper body weight, because I was
    leaning over and not resting on anything, unlike on my bike, where my
    weight is evenly distributed between the bars and seat.

    I wish I knew how to ride crouched and get out of the wind without
    killing myself! (Do you have any tips?)

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  9. chuckaeronut said:

    Really, that's cool. Whenever I try to go really fast, I always crouch
    over like you say, Ken, but when I did that for a whole hour, my back
    just about gave out. I think it was because I was using the muscles in
    my lower back to literally hold up my upper body weight, because I was
    leaning over and not resting on anything, unlike on my bike, where my
    weight is evenly distributed between the bars and seat.

    I wish I knew how to ride crouched and get out of the wind without
    killing myself! (Do you have any tips?)

    A good set of handles helps me immensely. Mine are a few inches
    farther in front than the seat handle, but somewhat shorter than the
    T7.

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  10. That handle looks really good steveyo 🙂 Did you have to do any special
    fabrication to make it or is it made of existing, standard parts?

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  11. Get a rhythm going, pace yourself, rest every so often, but not too
    often. Set yourself goals: number of laps, or landmarks, or times,
    before you stop. Never stop for more than a couple of minutes. Keep
    hydrated. Eat bananas.

    And practise. I did 24 miles on a 24 once. It was tiring. 15 miles
    should take you something either side of 2 hours depending on ability
    and experience. It is possible to do that length of time "in one", but
    it hurts.

    Good luck.🙂

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  12. Crizzzz said:


    Just so you know i am doing it on a 24" as its the biggest i own..

    Do you know anyone with a bigger wheel that you can borrow? 15 miles
    is certainly doable on a 24", but on a 26" or 29" it'll be that much
    easier (and isn't going to need retraining to ride - but a 36" will).

    When is it that you are planning on doing this? If it's quite soon,
    then you should really have some 5 mile or so rides under your belt by
    now. Otherwise, the best advice is to just ride more often and
    further. Go out for some 5 mile rides, and then start on some longer
    (7 - 10 miles) and it'll give you an idea of your readiness and how the
    unicycle feels after an hour in the saddle.

    Make sure you take lots of liquid with you. A camelbak backpack is
    nice, but if you don't have one, then just get some bottles of energy
    drinks in a normal backpack. Mars bars and Soreen malt loaf will help
    you get through it too 🙂

    STM

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  13. The most important advice above was a single word, which I'll repeat in
    all caps to make sure you notice:

    PRACTICE

    Do some long rides so your body will be used to the idea. Also, wear
    some good bike shorts (ones you already know work for you). Don't try
    anything new on the day of the ride, including shoes. Stick with what
    works.

    If you want to mess with hardware you can try some shorter cranks. 89mm
    is not too short for a 24", though they're not good for much besides
    cruising (they're good for Freestyle on a 20"😉. You can also borrow a
    bigger unicycle, but again only if you'll have a chance to do some
    practice and get comfortable on it.

    This is not to say you can't just hop on and ride 15 miles, on a
    borrowed uni or your own. All of the above will just make it more
    pleasant!

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  14. Thanks for the advice guys, I'm managing about 3-4 miles of unicycling
    at the moment usually only stopping because of the pain between my
    legs...rarely do i run out of energy when i'm cycling long-ish
    distances

    The main problem is reducing the friction and making the ride a bit
    more comfortable really..is there anything else i can do other than
    wearing cycling shorts to make the ride a bit gentler on my crotch?

    Cheers, Chris

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  15. What kind of saddle do you have on your uni? I recently switched to a KH
    Freeride Fusion and I'm starting to really like it, just had to get
    used to it. While the stock Nimbus (KH Fusion clone) saddle was cushier
    for rough terrain the Freeride doesn´t make my crotch as sore after a
    long ride. You could also look into making an air saddle.

    That said padded bicycle shorts are really something you should try.
    And before you ask, no - you cannot catch "teh gey" from wearing proper
    sportswear 😄

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  16. Crizzzz said:

    is there anything else i can do other than wearing cycling shorts to
    make the ride a bit gentler on my crotch?

    Cheers, Chris

    Let's rephrase the question to see if it suggests the answer:

    Is there anything more appropriate to wear than the item of clothing
    that is specifically designed for the job?

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  17. Mikefule said:

    Let's rephrase the question to see if it suggests the answer:

    Is there anything more appropriate to wear than the item of clothing
    that is specifically designed for the job?

    What i mean is, is there anything as well as cycling shorts that i can
    do/wear to help even more..i don't mean instead of..

    Sorry for the confusion

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  18. The Freeride saddle is the single best thing I've done for comfort.

    I always ride w/ two pairs of cycling shorts (one for padding and
    friction and the other to help keep everything in, out of the way), and
    Chamoix ButtR.

    If you don't want to stop, slow down your cadence and pedal standing up
    for about ten or twenty seconds every two or three minutes. Watches
    that have countdown timers usually beep for 10-20 sec.

    I usually Muni on what is for me, very challenging terrain. I set my
    timer to go off every 20 minutes, the next time I UPD I either drink a
    couple of mouthfulls from my water bottle or eat something.

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  19. Crizzzz said:

    What i mean is, is there anything as well as cycling shorts that i can
    do/wear to help even more..i don't mean instead of..

    Sorry for the confusion

    I was teasing.🙂

    Talcum powder in the shorts will reduce friction and "sticking".
    Often, the problem isn't -rubbing-, it is -sticking-. A piece of skin
    gets trapped in such a way that your weight tries to stretch or smear
    it. Talcum powder or other lubricant stops this.

    If the problem is simply weight on your "sit bones" then you need to
    adjust your seat and get more practice in.

    Strangely, I find that shorter cranks and a slightly faster cadence
    make for a more comfortable backside. I don't know why.

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  20. Mikefule said:

    Strangely, I find that shorter cranks and a slightly faster cadence make
    for a more comfortable backside. I don't know why.

    I find that shorter cranks allow a smoother pedalling circle, which
    means less jouncing up and down in the saddle on each pedal stroke.
    For me this equates to a more comfortable scrotum, rather than a more
    comfortable backside. I've never had a problem with backside comfort
    on a unicycle.

    I don't find that a higher cadence necessarily makes for more
    comfortable nether-regions, but shorter cranks /do/ lend themselves to
    a higher cadence. Also, a smooth pedalling circle (which means less
    jouncing around) is a prerequisite of maintaining high cadences.

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