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Looking for data on the preventative effect of cycle lights

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  1. Are there any studies on the effect of cycle lighting on accident and injury
    rates? When spring comes 'round here the local constabularies frequently go
    on a helmet-ticket binge; I'd like to suggest that if they are targeting
    cyclists that there is a more effective way to improve cycle safety.

  2. jtaylor said:

    Are there any studies on the effect of cycle lighting on accident and injury
    rates? When spring comes 'round here the local constabularies frequently go
    on a helmet-ticket binge; I'd like to suggest that if they are targeting
    cyclists that there is a more effective way to improve cycle safety.

    Get a ticket for not wearing a cycle helmet?

  3. What's a helmet-ticket binge? What's your location?

  4. jtaylor said:

    I'd like to suggest that if they are targeting
    cyclists that there is a more effective way to improve cycle safety.

    Check the brakes is a good one, and the general state of mechanical
    repair of the bike.

    The competence of the rider is another good one.

    d.

  5. iakobski said:

    What's a helmet-ticket binge? What's your location?

    Looks like somewhere in Canada, they have mandatory helmet laws there I
    think.

  6. "iakobski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What's a helmet-ticket binge?

    Just what you'd think.

    Quoted message said:

    What's your location?

    Nova Scotia.

  7. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jtaylor said:

    I'd like to suggest that if they are targeting
    cyclists that there is a more effective way to improve cycle safety.

    Check the brakes is a good one, and the general state of mechanical
    repair of the bike.

    The competence of the rider is another good one.

    There is no legal requirement (in Nova Scotia) that a bicycle have brakes.
    Neither are there any standards of mechanical repair or operator competence.

    A front light IS required for operation at night ("...1/2 hour after sunset
    to 1/2 hour before sunrise, or other times when visibility is so
    affected....300 metres..."😉.

    Wouldn't want the officers taking on more than is good for them...

  8. jtaylor said:

    There is no legal requirement (in Nova Scotia) that a bicycle have


    brakes.

    Quoted message said:

    Neither are there any standards of mechanical repair or operator


    competence.

    Well, your question was about /safety/ rather than legal requirements -
    the two are rarely equivalent (usually only where there is money to be
    made).

    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't want the officers taking on more than is good for them...

    No, I suppose not. Conveniently, it doesn't take much effort to spot if
    someone is wearing a helmet or not. Checking brakes would be too much
    like work, and might even involve an element of training... can't have
    that, now, can we!

    d.

  9. On 31/3/05 5:35 pm, in article [email hidden],

    jtaylor said:


    "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jtaylor said:

    There is no legal requirement (in Nova Scotia) that a bicycle have


    brakes.

    Quoted message said:

    Neither are there any standards of mechanical repair or operator


    competence.

    Well, your question was about /safety/ rather than legal requirements -
    the two are rarely equivalent (usually only where there is money to be
    made).

    Well, no.

    My question was about the effectiveness of cycle lights in preventing
    collisions and/or injuries.

    IIRC the only data I have seen mentioend indicates that cycle light use
    amongst hospital attendees mirrors that of the cycling population at large.

    ot much help but does indicate a lack of effectiveness. From a personal data
    point, the only time I have been knocked off at night was when I had full
    lights/reflectors.

    ...d

  10. jtaylor said:

    "iakobski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What's a helmet-ticket binge?

    Just what you'd think.

    Quoted message said:

    What's your location?

    Nova Scotia.

    NovaScotia.rec.cycling is that way <====

    This is UK.rec.cycling and we have no helmet laws and different lighting
    laws.

    Tony

  11. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jtaylor said:

    There is no legal requirement (in Nova Scotia) that a bicycle have


    brakes.

    Quoted message said:

    Neither are there any standards of mechanical repair or operator


    competence.

    Well, your question was about /safety/ rather than legal requirements -
    the two are rarely equivalent (usually only where there is money to be
    made).

    Well, no.

    My question was about the effectiveness of cycle lights in preventing
    collisions and/or injuries.

  12. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    NovaScotia.rec.cycling is that way <====

    No it isn't; no such group exists

    Quoted message said:


    This is UK.rec.cycling and we have no helmet laws and different lighting
    laws.

    True, and this group has readers and posters with a healthy attitude towards
    cycling safety, who are knowledgable about these particular things, and who
    may well know the information (or pointers to it) that I seek. Are you
    saying you don't feel you belong in such a group?

  13. In message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    This is UK.rec.cycling and we have no helmet laws and different
    lighting laws.

    But the OP was asking about data on the effectiveness of cycle lighting,
    difference in lighting laws probably isn't relevant in this context.

    FWIW I can't really remember anything much about this. I suspect that
    actually the benefit is probably marginal - not to say that I think one
    shouldn't use them.

    --
    Chris French, Leeds

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