low fat cheese in a souffle?

"Fay Wouk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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My father is having trouble with gout and has to give up a lot of
protein sources for a couple of months. Eggs are ok, so I was thinking
souffles, but his dairy products have to be low fat. Does anyone have
any experience with making souffles with skim milk and low fat cheese?
Do they work? Do they come out like a real souffle, or like a poor
imitation, or like something totally disgusting that no one would want
to eat?

thanks,
Fay

Regarding gout:

Here are a few hints:

1. See the doctor - he pay prescribe ALLOPURINOL.
2. Reduce or cut out coffee and alcohol (they are both very dehydrating)
3. Double the amount of water he's now drinking.
4. Dried cherries or cherry juice will help.
5. Do a google for "purines" the cause of gout.

Good luck.

Dimitri

Dimitri said:

"Fay Wouk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My father is having trouble with gout and has to give up a lot of
protein sources for a couple of months. Eggs are ok, so I was thinking
souffles, but his dairy products have to be low fat. Does anyone have
any experience with making souffles with skim milk and low fat cheese?
Do they work? Do they come out like a real souffle, or like a poor
imitation, or like something totally disgusting that no one would want
to eat?

thanks,
Fay

Regarding gout:

Here are a few hints:

1. See the doctor - he pay prescribe ALLOPURINOL.
2. Reduce or cut out coffee and alcohol (they are both very

dehydrating)

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3. Double the amount of water he's now drinking.
4. Dried cherries or cherry juice will help.
5. Do a google for "purines" the cause of gout.

Good luck.

Yup. Different folks have different experiences with gout - causing
foods...on a *strict* gout diet I was allowed protein - wise only small
amounts of boneless chicken breast and bacon (the bacon recommendation is
strange, but I've seen it on several gout diet guideline lists...)...

Basically cut down on all rich foods. But some healthy vegetables have high
levels of purine, e.g spinach, legumes, cruciferous vegetables can be real
no - no's on a gout diet.

Best to have the doc do some blood work, too (he'll have to in order to
prescribe Allopurinol in any case). Allopurinol is one remedy, colchicine
is another one. Colchicine is somewhat toxic and can cause severe stomach
upsets...

It's a crummy and painful malady (even the name is ugly) but with medication
and some diet modifications it is fairly easily remedied. Dropping some
weight and getting exercise really helps too. And WATER WATER WATER...can't
stress that too much. Drink as much as you possibly can, it's good for yer
system in any case.

Black cherry juice concentrate can be bought at any health food store, the
juice itself too at decent grocery stores. Make SURE that the cherry juice
you get is 100% pure cherry juice, a lot of stoopidmarket stuff labelled
"cherry juice" is mostly apple juice, just check the label. Also be aware
that black cherry juice can have a *severe* laxative effect (TMI)...

Good luck to the OP's father! :-)

--
Best
Greg

Fay Wouk said:

My father is having trouble with gout and has to give up a lot of
protein sources for a couple of months. Eggs are ok, so I was

thinking

Quoted message said:

souffles, but his dairy products have to be low fat. Does anyone have

Quoted message said:

any experience with making souffles with skim milk and low fat

cheese?

Quoted message said:

Do they work? Do they come out like a real souffle, or like a poor
imitation, or like something totally disgusting that no one would

want

Quoted message said:

to eat?

thanks,
Fay

I use nothing but skim milk, and it's fine in cheese souffle. I don't
know about low-fat cheeses, because they aren't anything I buy - but if
I were you, I'd try some skim-milk cheeses first and see how those go -
Gouda is one that is almost always skim-milk based.

N.

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Dimitri said:

"Fay Wouk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My father is having trouble with gout and has to give up a lot of
protein sources for a couple of months. Eggs are ok, so I was thinking
souffles, but his dairy products have to be low fat. Does anyone have
any experience with making souffles with skim milk and low fat cheese?
Do they work? Do they come out like a real souffle, or like a poor
imitation, or like something totally disgusting that no one would want
to eat?

thanks,
Fay

Regarding gout:

Here are a few hints:

1. See the doctor - he pay prescribe ALLOPURINOL.
2. Reduce or cut out coffee and alcohol (they are both very

dehydrating)

Quoted message said:

3. Double the amount of water he's now drinking.
4. Dried cherries or cherry juice will help.
5. Do a google for "purines" the cause of gout.

Good luck.

Yup. Different folks have different experiences with gout - causing
foods...on a *strict* gout diet I was allowed protein - wise only small
amounts of boneless chicken breast and bacon (the bacon recommendation is
strange, but I've seen it on several gout diet guideline lists...)...

Basically cut down on all rich foods. But some healthy vegetables have
high
levels of purine, e.g spinach, legumes, cruciferous vegetables can be real
no - no's on a gout diet.

Best to have the doc do some blood work, too (he'll have to in order to
prescribe Allopurinol in any case). Allopurinol is one remedy, colchicine
is another one. Colchicine is somewhat toxic and can cause severe stomach
upsets...

It's a crummy and painful malady (even the name is ugly) but with
medication
and some diet modifications it is fairly easily remedied. Dropping some
weight and getting exercise really helps too. And WATER WATER
WATER...can't
stress that too much. Drink as much as you possibly can, it's good for
yer
system in any case.

Black cherry juice concentrate can be bought at any health food store, the
juice itself too at decent grocery stores. Make SURE that the cherry
juice
you get is 100% pure cherry juice, a lot of stoopidmarket stuff labelled
"cherry juice" is mostly apple juice, just check the label. Also be aware
that black cherry juice can have a *severe* laxative effect (TMI)...

Good luck to the OP's father! :-)

--
Best
Greg

You're right on the money.

For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause the
pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will actually
start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

I know this may sound gross but the best indicator of your fluid intake is
the color of one's urine.

Dimitri

Dimitri said:

For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause the
pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will actually
start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

I know this may sound gross but the best indicator of your fluid intake is
the color of one's urine.

The local cherry farmers can't keep their sour cherry juice is stock because so
many gout sufferers have found it to be almost a miracle drug.

In Dimitri said:

You're right on the money.

Yes. I too suffer from gout and the black cherry juice is good. I've
only bought it from the health food stores so can't comment on the
supermarket but I have to admit, I've never looked for it there either.
I've been prescribed to Indomethacin 50MG capsules and that is the
miracle drug for gout. Soon as I feel the *tingle*, I start taking it
and I've never had the condition come back. Thank goodness to say the
least.

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For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause
the pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will
actually start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

The pain is crazy. Simply no other way to put it. Before I had this
prescription I felt that my world was coming to an end and I couldn't
wait for it to come. The pain was just too much to take.

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For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

Well, check with your doctor for the above as it works for me. Of
course, ymmv...

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I know this may sound gross but the best indicator of your fluid
intake is the color of one's urine.

Move along folks, nothing to see here :-)

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Cheers

Dennis

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Dimitri said:

For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause the
pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will actually
start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

You can't exaggerate the pain. I thought I might have been bitten by a
poisonous spider on my big toe joint. It was red, hot, and swollen,
looking like a bunion.

My. Dr. hypothesized it might be due to all the shrimp I ate while on
vacation. Allopurinol seems to be working well for me.

gloria p

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The pain is crazy. Simply no other way to put it. Before I had this
prescription I felt that my world was coming to an end and I couldn't
wait for it to come. The pain was just too much to take.

Quoted message said:

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

Well, check with your doctor for the above as it works for me. Of
course, ymmv...

Quoted message said:

I know this may sound gross but the best indicator of your fluid
intake is the color of one's urine.

Move along folks, nothing to see here :-)

--
Cheers

Dennis

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Where is the pain? For some reason I always thought it was in the big toe.

Gout sucks. The only thing I've ever had that hurt more was a kidney
stone. Allopurinol is good but it takes a while and you have to keep
taking it.
No more liver, sardines, anchovies for me. It's the only diet in the
world that tells you to eat more refined carbohydrates and less whole
grains!

On the other topic try lowfat/nofat evaporated milk. You get the
"creamy" without the butterfat, and
Kraft makes pretty good 2% milkfat cheeses.

Lynn from Fargo

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Dennis

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Where is the pain? For some reason I always thought it was in the big toe.

Not necessarily the big toe although it can manifest itself in any joint the
extremities such as the toes and fingers are the usual places. I think it
has to do with the available blood supply being able to absorb or better yet
re-absorb the uric acid crystal(s)

Dimitri

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Dimitri said:

For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause the
pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will
actually start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

You can't exaggerate the pain. I thought I might have been bitten by a
poisonous spider on my big toe joint. It was red, hot, and swollen,
looking like a bunion.

My. Dr. hypothesized it might be due to all the shrimp I ate while on
vacation. Allopurinol seems to be working well for me.

gloria p

For me "freezing" the joint is about the only relief save the medication.

Dimitri

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Gout sucks. The only thing I've ever had that hurt more was a kidney
stone.

Kidney stone is why God invented morphine lots and lots of morphine!

Dimitri

Dimitri said:

For those who have never experienced gout I hope you never do 'cause the
pain is unimaginable. The cause is uric acid in your system will actually
start to "grow" crystals inside a joint.

For me the best relief is/was a high dose of the now removed Vioxx. I
managed to save some for emergencies.

I know this may sound gross but the best indicator of your fluid intake is
the color of one's urine.

No, it's not gross, and it is a VERY important health indicator to
keep an eye on. Gout sounds awful. Hope it doesn't still affect you.

Dimitri said:

Kidney stone is why God invented morphine lots and lots of morphine!

I broke my collar bone a few years ago. It was handy for that. That is one
injury that I don't want to repeat. If it wasn't for morphine I would not
have slept for about 7 weeks. Come to think of it, I only slept from the
time the morphine kicked in to the time it wore off about 4 hours later.

My mother suffers from kidney stones on a regular basis. About ten years
ago she had her parathyroid glad removed and the doctor assured her that
she would never again have a kidney stone. She had one two years later.

(Gal Called J.J.) said:

J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

After all this time, I just finally noticed your sig. It left me with
a bizzare, unexplainable feeling. Elf Blood? Holy cow. I know I'm
gonna feel stupid when you tell me, but my head is a little "froggy"
today. ATHF?

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Dimitri said:

Kidney stone is why God invented morphine lots and lots of morphine!

I broke my collar bone a few years ago. It was handy for that. That is one
injury that I don't want to repeat. If it wasn't for morphine I would not
have slept for about 7 weeks. Come to think of it, I only slept from the
time the morphine kicked in to the time it wore off about 4 hours later.

<snip>

They think they were doing you a favor with that GD morphine pump. The
minute you fall asleep you stop pumping. The morphine wears off and you
wake up - then you have to pump for another 2 hours until you get enough to
go back to sleep - about that time they come in to wake you up to draw
blood - No wonder people die in hospitals

Dimitri

Dave Smith said:

My mother suffers from kidney stones on a regular basis. About ten years
ago she had her parathyroid glad removed and the doctor assured her that
she would never again have a kidney stone. She had one two years later.

I feel sorry for your mother - I'd rather die than go through that
again.

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Cheers

Dennis

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Where is the pain? For some reason I always thought it was in the big
toe.

Not necessarily the big toe although it can manifest itself in any
joint the extremities such as the toes and fingers are the usual
places. I think it has to do with the available blood supply being
able to absorb or better yet re-absorb the uric acid crystal(s)

Yes, the big toe is where I get the pain and it swells up like a tennis
ball. Other people do get it in the knees and hands, or just about any
joint as you say. But the pain goes throughout the body and just never
seems to let up.

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Dennis

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"AlleyGator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dave Smith said:

My mother suffers from kidney stones on a regular basis. About ten years
ago she had her parathyroid glad removed and the doctor assured her that
she would never again have a kidney stone. She had one two years later.

I feel sorry for your mother - I'd rather die than go through that
again.

Wazz - a - matter don't like pissing into a strainer?

lol

Dimitri