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  1. "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Owens" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Just a few years ago, I saw data stating that nearly 50% of all
    prescription drugs start with precursors of plant origin. I believe they
    meant that half of all prescriptions filled utilize a medication that is
    initially of plant origin rather than 50% of the different marketed
    medications utilize plants as a starting material for the synthetic
    process.

    A lot of chemical drugs are made by biotech processes that essentially
    grow a yeast in a high efficiency vat. The yeast has had its DNA modified
    to include a gene for making the specific chemical under question. This
    makes a very accurate reproduction that can be made very cheaply and very
    rapidly leaving the fermenter ready to make something else in just a
    couple of days.


    Only a relatively small number of medications are made by fermentation
    processes (antibiotics) or recombinant technologies (large proteins for
    injection).

    Quoted message said:

    We could make high quality wine in a week better than that stuff aged 10
    years.


    How?
    -Mike

  2. Andy B. says...

    Quoted message said:

    You'd figure that just about everything you pee has
    carbon in it no?

    Misleading to say the least... The primary component of urine is water.
    Depending on hydration, inorganics can be major components. But there certainly
    are components in urine that contain carbon: urea, creatinine, uric acid, sundry
    metabolites, etc.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    RonSonic said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    "Mike Owens" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Just a few years ago, I saw data stating that nearly 50% of all
    prescription drugs start with precursors of plant origin. I believe they
    meant that half of all prescriptions filled utilize a medication that is
    initially of plant origin rather than 50% of the different marketed
    medications utilize plants as a starting material for the synthetic
    process.

    A lot of chemical drugs are made by biotech processes that essentially grow
    a yeast in a high efficiency vat. The yeast has had its DNA modified to
    include a gene for making the specific chemical under question. This makes a
    very accurate reproduction that can be made very cheaply and very rapidly
    leaving the fermenter ready to make something else in just a couple of days.

    LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT!

    Quoted message said:

    We could make high quality wine in a week better than that stuff aged 10
    years.

    LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT!

    This is not a drill. This is an actual LIVEDRUNK ALERT! Please attend to this
    very important matter immediately.

    Ron

    Ah, yes. The DRUNK-signal. Hold my beer and watch this:

    Tom, I don't believe in perfect markets, but I do believe the markets
    are perfect enough that if two-buck chuck could be made to taste like a
    grand cru via a multi-day GM yeast process, then it would be so.

    I would qualify your claim in two ways. First, please define "that
    stuff" a little more precisely. Second, your claim qualifies as
    extraordinary. Please present the extraordinary evidence of its verity.
    If your claim is not extraordinary, please present the widespread and
    mundane evidence that supports it.

    A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    extraordinary evidence,

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  4. Ryan Cousineau said:
    RonSonic said:

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:26:32 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We could make high quality wine in a week better than that stuff aged 10
    years.

    LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT! LIVEDRUNK ALERT!

    This is not a drill. This is an actual LIVEDRUNK ALERT! Please attend to this
    very important matter immediately.

    Ron

    Ah, yes. The DRUNK-signal. Hold my beer and watch this:

    Tom, I don't believe in perfect markets, but I do believe the markets
    are perfect enough that if two-buck chuck could be made to taste like a
    grand cru via a multi-day GM yeast process, then it would be so.

    I would qualify your claim in two ways. First, please define "that
    stuff" a little more precisely. Second, your claim qualifies as
    extraordinary. Please present the extraordinary evidence of its verity.
    If your claim is not extraordinary, please present the widespread and
    mundane evidence that supports it.

    A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    extraordinary evidence,

    Ryan,

    Do not question Tom on the practicality of making
    quick-rising wine with genetically modified yeast.
    Because Tom Kunich worked for the company that
    invented wine.

    Ben

  5. Quoted message said:

    Ryan,

    Do not question Tom on the practicality of making
    quick-rising wine with genetically modified yeast.
    Because Tom Kunich worked for the company that
    invented wine.

    But, really, how surprising is that? He also invented the whine.

  6. Ryan Cousineau said:

    A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    extraordinary evidence,

    There's a special on at the Kunich 2nd hand bike garage, you get a free
    case of genetically engineered wine and a free Phonak cell phone with
    every bike.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    extraordinary evidence,

    There's a special on at the Kunich 2nd hand bike garage, you get a free
    case of genetically engineered wine and a free Phonak cell phone with
    every bike.

    There must be a prototype word processor or two in there also.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  8. Howard Kveck said:
    Donald Munro said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    extraordinary evidence,

    There's a special on at the Kunich 2nd hand bike garage, you get a free
    case of genetically engineered wine and a free Phonak cell phone with
    every bike.

    There must be a prototype word processor or two in there also.

    It's behind the racing motorcycles, but you're going to have
    to move a liquid chromatography mass spectrometer to
    get at it.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:
    Howard Kveck said:
    Donald Munro said:

    Ryan Cousineau wrote:
    > A sample of the GM 2-day plonk for testing would qualify as
    > extraordinary evidence,

    There's a special on at the Kunich 2nd hand bike garage, you get a free
    case of genetically engineered wine and a free Phonak cell phone with
    every bike.

    There must be a prototype word processor or two in there also.

    It's behind the racing motorcycles, but you're going to have
    to move a liquid chromatography mass spectrometer to
    get at it.

    Yeah, I forgot about the factory Hondas...

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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