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  1. Nancy Young said:
    Steve Wertz said:


    Nancy Young said:

    When I make mac n cheese, that's what's for dinner. End
    of subject. Have a salad and/or a vegetable on the side,
    that's fine. I've seen mac n cheese as a side dish and
    it strikes me as weird. It doesn't really go with what I
    would think of as main dishes.

    How about those cafeteria-style places that offer two
    vegetables as sides to the main dish, broccoli, brussels
    sprouts, cole slaw, potato salad, beans, or... mac and
    cheese.

    I had never heard of such a thing, mac and cheese as a side
    dish, plus I didn't grow up on that blue box style of mac
    and cheese. I think those cafeteria type restaurants are
    more of a southern thing. First time I recall seing that
    was a Boston Market chicken kind of place.

    KFC offers mac and cheese as a side, but they don't call
    them vegetables.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't think what main dish I would find looking for a
    side of mac n cheese. Certainly not chicken. That's why God
    invented mashed potatoes.

    Anywhere there's a starch as a side, you can substitute M&C.
    There's tons of those Lipton or Golden Grain pasta/rice +
    sauce sides that come in envelopes for ~$1 that are
    basically the same as M&C.

    -sw

  2. limey said:

    I had a funny thing happen a week or two ago. We have a
    large Korean computer store/gasoline station/bus
    stop/fried chicken/Chinese food buffet (yes, really). The
    Chinese food is great and I often stop to get my fix. I
    was there a week or so ago and among the General Tso's
    chicken, the beef and broccoli, lo mein, egg rolls and so
    forth was - you guessed it - macaroni and cheese.

    We have huge, busy Chinese buffets here, and the one I
    frequent if filled with people from all over (with Caucasian
    a significant minority). Mac and Cheese, ice cream, onion
    rings and a standard salad bar (plus kimchee) is the USian
    part of it.

  3. zxcvbob said:


    Spaghetti with pesto makes a great starchy side dish.


    I prefer other pastas with my pesto, but, yes, it's a
    great side dish too... a bit more "grown up" than Mac &
    cheese (comfort food). I also prefer Alfredo as a side,
    not a main dish.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  4. Bob said:


    Nancy said:

    I can't think what main dish I would find looking for a
    side of mac n cheese. Certainly not chicken. That's why
    God invented mashed potatoes.

    The favorite meal of a long-ago girlfriend was teriyaki
    flank steak accompanied by mac & cheese. The combination
    was nothing special to me, but it wasn't bad, either.

    No offense meant, but that combination doesn't sound
    compatible to me.

    Quoted message said:

    (My current girlfriend likes pasta and she likes cheese,
    but she can't get over a stereotype that mac & cheese is
    food for white trash.)

    Oh, maybe I'm white trash, sometimes in the winter
    nothing will do but a nice crusty macaroni and cheese,
    extra cayenne. With the buttered bread crumbs on top. I
    freeze it in portions and that makes many a meal for the
    next few weeks.

    Speaking of white trash food, I saw some commercial today
    that reminded me ... I really do like that elbow macaroni
    with mayo and tuna cold salad. I was kidding around, Hi, I'm
    Nancy, and I like macaroni tuna salad?

    nancy

  5. On Sat, 15 May 2004 10:43:39 -0700, kalanamak <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    limey said:

    I had a funny thing happen a week or two ago. We have a
    large Korean computer store/gasoline station/bus
    stop/fried chicken/Chinese food buffet (yes, really). The
    Chinese food is great and I often stop to get my fix. I
    was there a week or so ago and among the General Tso's
    chicken, the beef and broccoli, lo mein, egg rolls and so
    forth was - you guessed it - macaroni and cheese.

    We have huge, busy Chinese buffets here, and the one I
    frequent if filled with people from all over (with
    Caucasian a significant minority). Mac and Cheese, ice
    cream, onion rings and a standard salad bar (plus kimchee)
    is the USian part of it.

    We also have many Chinese buffets (large Asian population),
    and there's almost always an American section to the buffet,
    including all that you mentioned, plus things like boiled
    shrimp and boiled crawfish.

    Mary--in Houston area

  6. "kalanamak" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    limey said:

    I had a funny thing happen a week or two ago. We have a
    large Korean computer store/gasoline station/bus
    stop/fried chicken/Chinese food


    buffet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (yes, really). The Chinese food is great and I often
    stop to get my


    fix. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was there a week or so ago and among the General Tso's
    chicken, the beef


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    broccoli, lo mein, egg rolls and so forth was - you
    guessed it -


    macaroni

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and cheese.

    We have huge, busy Chinese buffets here, and the one I
    frequent if filled with people from all over (with
    Caucasian a significant minority). Mac and Cheese, ice
    cream, onion rings and a standard salad bar (plus kimchee)
    is the USian part of it.

    Yes, I've eaten at those large Chinese buffets too but in
    this case it was just a small line of Chinese food plus the
    mac and cheese (a new addition to the line-up). It just
    looked oddly out of place. To each his own.

    Dora

  7. Nancy Young <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ... With the buttered bread crumbs on top.

    I've converted to crushed Ritz crackers.

    Quoted message said:

    Speaking of white trash food, I saw some commercial today
    that reminded me ... I really do like that elbow macaroni
    with mayo and tuna cold salad. I was kidding around, Hi,
    I'm Nancy, and I like macaroni tuna salad?

    Fried Spam® & Velveeta® on WonderBread® with Miracle
    Whip®!!!!

  8. Oh, BTW, would hubby think it's a meal if you added ham
    in the mac

    Quoted message said:

    & cheese????

    kili

    He likes a ham steak with it :-) He'll eat it with ham, hot
    dogs or salami in it, too. Tara

  9. Nancy Young said:

    When I make mac n cheese, that's what's for dinner. End of
    subject. Have a salad and/or a vegetable on the side,
    that's fine. I've seen mac n cheese as a side dish and it
    strikes me as weird. It doesn't really go with what I
    would think of as main dishes.

    Macaroni & cheese is a popular side dish with meatloaf. For
    me, a meal consisting only of mac & cheese would seem
    strange. I sometimes make it as a side dish for steak, but
    not often.

  10. limey said:

    I had a funny thing happen a week or two ago. We have a
    large Korean computer store/gasoline station/bus
    stop/fried chicken/Chinese food buffet (yes, really). The
    Chinese food is great and I often stop to get my fix. I
    was there a week or so ago and among the General Tso's
    chicken, the beef and broccoli, lo mein, egg rolls and so
    forth was - you guessed it - macaroni and cheese. I said
    to the Asian man replenishing the buffet, "er, macaroni
    and cheese? Is that Chinese?". Trouble was, he couldn't
    speak English so the question remains unanswered. One of
    life's mysteries.

    I have seen mac & cheese offered at a number of those so
    called "Chinese buffets" here in the Philadelphia area. The
    mac & cheese is almost invariably disgusting looking so I
    have never tried it, but I noticed that it seems to be
    popular with little kids, so is the french fries and chicken
    nuggets that also appear on most of the Chinese buffets in
    my area. I try to avoid those places because the food is
    almost always blah and when I want Chinese food, I can get
    much better by going to a real Chinese restaurant, even if
    it is not really that authentic.

  11. On 15 May 2004 12:32:05 -0500, "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.com>

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy said:

    I can't think what main dish I would find looking for a
    side of mac n cheese. Certainly not chicken. That's why
    God invented mashed potatoes.

    The favorite meal of a long-ago girlfriend was teriyaki
    flank steak accompanied by mac & cheese. The combination
    was nothing special to me, but it wasn't bad, either.

    (My current girlfriend likes pasta and she likes cheese,
    but she can't get over a stereotype that mac & cheese is
    food for white trash.)

    Bob


    if you can afford the flank steak, there's no reason you
    can't hold your head high.

    your pal, blake

  12. "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    (My current girlfriend likes pasta and she likes cheese,
    but she can't get over a stereotype that mac & cheese is
    food for white trash.)

    Bob

    White trash? What about Black households who serve macaroni
    and cheese as a very elaborate dish? That is certainly
    different from something out of a box. Kraft Dinner is good
    and all, but it doesn't beat large elbow macaroni and a
    variety of tasty cheese!

    Cami!

  13. Steve Wertz said:

    KFC offers mac and cheese as a side, but they don't call
    them vegetables.

    So does Boston Market, but I only ordered it once. Boston
    Market's mac & cheese was so overly salty that I couldn't
    finish it.

    I agree that mac & cheese goes well anywhere there's a
    starch as a side dish. I mean, after all, fettocini alfredo
    is really just a fancy version of mac & cheese and lots of
    people eat that with chicken, fish, or beef.

  14. On 31 May 2004 18:27:27 -0700, [email hidden]

    (CarbondatedBabe!) said:

    "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.com> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    (My current girlfriend likes pasta and she likes cheese,
    but she can't get over a stereotype that mac & cheese is
    food for white trash.)

    Bob

    White trash? What about Black households who serve macaroni
    and cheese as a very elaborate dish? That is certainly
    different from something out of a box. Kraft Dinner is good
    and all, but it doesn't beat large elbow macaroni and a
    variety of tasty cheese!

    Cami!

    My grandmother made a great mac & cheese and she wasn't
    white trash. Her mac & cheese was a main dish, but it
    wasn't fancy and I salivate whenever I think about it.
    Today, I would serve it as a side dish with pork chops or
    Italian sausages.

  15. CarbondatedBabe! said:

    White trash? What about Black households who serve
    macaroni and cheese as a very elaborate dish? That is
    certainly different from something out of a box. Kraft
    Dinner is good and all, but it doesn't beat large elbow
    macaroni and a variety of tasty cheese!

    Wasn't mac & cheese invented by Thomas Jefferson? He is
    certainly not anyone I would classify as white trash.

  16. sf said:

    My grandmother made a great mac & cheese and she wasn't
    white trash. Her mac & cheese was a main dish, but it
    wasn't fancy and I salivate whenever I think about it.
    Today, I would serve it as a side dish with pork chops or
    Italian sausages.

    When I was in the eighth grade, I signed up to take a home
    economics course as an elective. I thought I would leqrn
    some useful skills and meet some girls. I did learn a lot of
    useful skills, one of which was how to make mac & cheese
    from scratch. Unfortunately, most of the other students in
    that class were also guys who thought home ec would be a
    good way to meet girls!

  17. Quoted message said:
    CarbondatedBabe! said:

    White trash? What about Black households who serve
    macaroni and cheese as a very elaborate dish? That is
    certainly different from something out of a box. Kraft
    Dinner is good and all, but it doesn't beat large elbow
    macaroni and a variety of tasty cheese!

    Wasn't mac & cheese invented by Thomas Jefferson? He is
    certainly not anyone I would classify as white trash.

    I doubt he invented it. Perhaps one of his slaves made it
    and he liked it to the point that he served it to guests on
    informal occasions... say anything more than that and I'll
    be highly skeptical.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  18. Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    My grandmother made a great mac & cheese and she wasn't
    white trash. Her mac & cheese was a main dish, but it
    wasn't fancy and I salivate whenever I think about it.
    Today, I would serve it as a side dish with pork chops
    or Italian sausages.

    When I was in the eighth grade, I signed up to take a
    home economics course as an elective. I thought I would
    leqrn some useful skills and meet some girls. I did learn
    a lot of useful skills, one of which was how to make mac
    & cheese from scratch.

    do you remember the recipe? Those were always fail safe...
    like 4H, Boy Scout, Girl Scout recipes of today are.

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately, most of the other students in that class
    were also guys who thought home ec would be a good way to
    meet girls!

    Not a bad motive, imo... my son took it for some odd reason
    (not to meet girls, to my knowledge) and he actually learned
    some skills and made a couple of very easy projects on a
    sewing machine.

    A result of him taking that class, I never had to sew
    another on button on his clothes for him - unless he sweet
    talked me into it, of course.

    sf mush mom

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  19. sf said:

    On 3 Jun 2004 04:13:22 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    CarbondatedBabe! said:

    White trash? What about Black households who serve
    macaroni and cheese as a very elaborate dish? That is
    certainly different from something out of a box. Kraft
    Dinner is good and all, but it doesn't beat large
    elbow macaroni and a variety of tasty cheese!

    Wasn't mac & cheese invented by Thomas Jefferson? He is
    certainly not anyone I would classify as white trash.

    Quoted message said:

    I doubt he invented it. Perhaps one of his slaves made it
    and he liked it to the point that he served it to guests
    on informal occasions... say anything more than that and
    I'll be highly skeptical.

    I did a web search and I came up with some interesting links
    that claim that Jefferson introduced macaroni to the United
    States. Jefferson was apparantly a foodie and he brought the
    first macaroni mold to the United States from France, which
    he found there when he served as ambassador to France. This
    information and a recipe for Jefferson's mac & cheese is at
    familyeducation.com0,1120,1
    5017,00.html?relinks

    Disagreement on whether or not Jefferson invented the mac &
    cheese dish abounds, but not that he introduced macaroni to
    the states. Look here for southernfood.about.comsouthernfood.about.com
    casserolerecipes/a/macncheese.htm interesting information
    about mac & cheese. Evidently, this dish gained its
    popularity in the 1930's as a depression era dish. Another
    web site at enquirer.comtem
    _taste23lede.html also has interesting information and a
    recipe for mac & cheese.

  20. sf said:

    do you remember the recipe? Those were always fail safe...
    like 4H, Boy Scout, Girl Scout recipes of today are.

    The recipe is remarkably like the one I in the first link
    in another message that I posted to this thread a minute
    or two ago.

    Quoted message said:

    Not a bad motive, imo... my son took it for some odd
    reason (not to meet girls, to my knowledge) and he
    actually learned some skills and made a couple of very
    easy projects on a sewing machine.

    My home economics class never included sewing, as far as I
    remember. I am truly deficient in the area of sewing. Even
    attaching a button to a shirt is a chore I cannot do
    properly for the life of me!

    Quoted message said:

    A result of him taking that class, I never had to sew
    another on button on his clothes for him - unless he sweet
    talked me into it, of course.

    My tailor is good at sewing!

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