mad cow and running

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare??
why/wht not??

Haven't quit due to the mad cow scare, because I was vegetarian in the first place.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

It's a great opportunity to get lots of steaks at knock-down prices. Fill the freezer, be happy!

--
Miss St. Tropez

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the
mad cow scare?? why/wht not??
plodzilla

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In article said:

i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare??
why/wht not??

Haven't quit due to the mad cow scare, because I was vegetarian in the first place.

Cheers,

It's not that he likes plants, it just that he's scared of meat (only scared of cow meat, he loves a
nice stiff "man-meat" LOLOLOL)

i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla
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...don't you know runners don't eat beef? c'mon..who wants to run with all those extra pounds of
undigested meat in our intestines?....not to mention the laundry list of all the unhealthy aspects
of beef. In sum...

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all
natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food for
real people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
-- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible
Medicine, Washington, D.C.

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla
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...don't you know runners don't eat beef? c'mon..who wants to run with

all

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those extra pounds of undigested meat in our intestines?....not to mention

the

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laundry list of all the unhealthy aspects of beef. In sum...

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the

wars

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of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents

combined.

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If beef is your idea of real food for real people, you'd better live real

close

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to a real good hospital." -- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for

Responsible

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Medicine, Washington, D.C.

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare??
why/wht not??

Haven't quit due to the mad cow scare, because I was vegetarian in the first place.

Cheers,

Vegetarians are the CAUSE of mad cow disease, they are getting even. So I think you, and all you
other 'weirdos' out there owe us 'normalos' an apology for getting us into this.

Globaldisc said:

i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla
----
...don't you know runners don't eat beef? c'mon..who wants to run with all those extra pounds of
undigested meat in our intestines?....not to mention the laundry list of all the unhealthy aspects
of beef. In sum...

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all
natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food for
real people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
-- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible
Medicine, Washington, D.C.

Oh boy Andrew, you really want to stir the stew pot. 😉 The PCRM is agenda motivated by not killing
any animals. I have no problems with vegans and admire that healthy diet but one can also eat meat
in moderation to their benefit. Using what I call whacko PETA folks as health advocates, is a
stretch. Like quoting Al Sharpton as a peace advocate.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

I ate a fabulous ribeye steak last night for dinner. Of course my confidence in the safety of the
meat is enhanced by the fact that the animal was raised on my in-laws' farm, where it was also born
and spent it's entire life (never having been fed animal parts).

Brian Jones

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla

"gentolm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla

I haven't eaten meat since 1991.

cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org

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It's a great opportunity to get lots of steaks at knock-down prices. Fill the

freezer, be happy!

Human beings do have the teeth-set of an OMNIVORE (sort of like bears). It would seem highly likely
that nature designed us to eat a little meat, and bits of many other things. Those canines in the
front of your mouth are not for grinding veggies.

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Oh boy Andrew, you really want to stir the stew pot.
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I am shocked that you would make such an accusation....and how dare you knock Al Sharpton, he's
done more for jogging suits and advancement of the public acceptance of jogging suits than anyone
I know! I say there's room for a lover of jogging suits in r.r.

I stand corrected, jogging suits and the barrel chested lumpy middle look. I have an 11 x 14 of him,
Maddux, Mason and Tawana Brawley on my hero wall. I'll can't understand how the polls can have Dean
in front of Sharpton - it must be a fixed ethnocentric poll. Way "tung and chek"

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Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

"Miss St. Tropez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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It's a great opportunity to get lots of steaks at knock-down prices. Fill the freezer, be happy!

Steaks have a very limited freezer life. Also NOW is defeniately NOT the time to buy them.

Doug Freese said:

Globaldisc wrote:

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i was wondering if any runners out there quite eating beef due to the mad cow scare?? why/wht
not?? plodzilla
----
...don't you know runners don't eat beef? c'mon..who wants to run with all those extra pounds of
undigested meat in our intestines?....not to mention the laundry list of all the unhealthy
aspects of beef. In sum...

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century,
all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food
for real people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
-- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible
Medicine, Washington, D.C.

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Oh boy Andrew, you really want to stir the stew pot. 😉 The PCRM is agenda motivated by not
killing any animals. I have no problems with vegans and admire that healthy diet but one can also
eat meat in moderation to their benefit. Using what I call whacko PETA folks as health advocates,
is a stretch. Like quoting Al Sharpton as a peace advocate.

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--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

---Just like on standardized tests, any claim that says "always" or "never" is probably wrong as
there are always exceptions. While consuming large amounts of beef is probably pretty unhealthy,
enjoying a good steak or burger once a week is hardly bad for you. That's like saying fat is bad for
you...it's actually good for you in amounts much smaller than the average American consumes. As for
quoting that the beef industry is responsible, that sets the B.S. alarm into high gear. People stuff
food in their mouths, not the industry. INDIVIDUALS are responsible for their own eating habits, not
the beef industry or any other. Our country's growing trend of a decreased sense of personal
responsibility is the cause of most of our problems (obesity, racism, lawsuits, bad health, welfare
dependence, etc etc). IMHO... Andy Hass

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Doug Freese <[email hidden]> wrote: industry or any other. Our country's growing trend of
a decreased sense of personal responsibility is the cause of most of our problems (obesity,

Obesity overwhelmingly correlates with abundance of macronutrient-dense food. This is true in
countries both with and without a sense of personal responsibility.

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racism,

If the allegedly *growing* trend towards decreased sense of responsibility is the cause of racism,
then why is it that racism has declined over the last 50 years ? Surely, you're not going to argue
that there is more racism today than there was in the days of segregation (or slavery, if you want
to go back further)

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lawsuits,

Lawsuits are not always a problem. Part of the reason that we have lawsuits is due to a sense that
corporations and governments should behave responsibly.

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bad health,

As above, this is caused by lots of things.

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welfare dependence, etc etc).

Well yes, this one I agree with.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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As for quoting that the beef industry is responsible, that sets the B.S. alarm into high gear.
People stuff food in their mouths, not the industry. INDIVIDUALS are responsible for their own
eating habits, not the beef industry or any other.

Andy, you are an ignorant lil' [censored]. The beef industry is responsible for those deaths because of
unsafe meat (feces covering carcasses, salmonella counts 100x the limit, beef with tumors in it, etc
etc...) and bad handling practices, not because of people overeating. THAT is what he meant.

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It would seem highly likely that nature designed us to eat a little meat,...

Those canines in the front of your mouth are not for grinding veggies.
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....wrong on all points. though i noticed you steered away (that's a pun) from beef and used the
word "meat". i can suggest a ton of places but in a nutshell,
michaelbluejay.comnatural.htmlOpen ↗

we're no more designed to eat meat than we are to heel strike w/running. if you heel strike & eat
beef...i can only wonder what's going to end your running career first?...your knees, heart disease,
or colon problems? it's a [censored] shoot (oops....there i go again with another pun)...

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It would seem highly likely that nature designed us to eat a little meat,...

Those canines in the front of your mouth are not for grinding veggies.
---
....wrong on all points. though i noticed you steered away (that's a pun) from beef and used the
word "meat". i can suggest a ton of places but in a nutshell,
michaelbluejay.comnatural.htmlOpen ↗

we're no more designed to eat meat than we are to heel strike w/running. if you heel strike & eat
beef...i can only wonder what's going to end your running career first?...your knees, heart
disease, or colon problems? it's a [censored] shoot (oops....there i go again with another pun)...

A point worth making in this context is that the "we're designed to eat meat", or "other animals do
it" is often used as a *moral* justification for eating meat. But the fact that something happens in
nature actually has little to do with whether or not it is moral.

--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

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It would seem highly likely that nature designed us to eat a little

meat,... Those canines in the front of your mouth are not for grinding veggies.
---
....wrong on all points. though i noticed you steered away (that's a pun) from beef and used the
word "meat". i can suggest a ton of places but in a nutshell,
michaelbluejay.comnatural.htmlOpen ↗

we're no more designed to eat meat than we are to heel strike w/running. if you heel strike & eat
beef...i can only wonder what's going to end your running career first?...your knees, heart
disease, or colon problems? it's a [censored] shoot (oops....there i go again with another pun)...

You've fallen "prey" to some shallow thinking there, friend. That website you've linked us to has
chart that attempts to contrast us to "Meat Eaters" or "Plant Eaters," and either deliberately or by
lack of smarts has failed to include the one thing I referred to: OMNIVORES. This latin-derived word
roughly translates as "eaters of everything." Bears, the example I gave, eat berries, honey, fish,
deer, pretty much anything/everything. So do most people, when they follow their instincts and
cravings. And, as I said, we have the dentition of OMNIVORES, not strict plant eaters (e.g., cows)
or strict meat eaters (e.g., hyenas or sharks).

Understand I'm not knocking anyone's right to make a wrong decision about their diet and health,
here. But you really should look at the whole picture from a neutral point of view, and not just the
opinions of folks with agendas who will twist the "facts" with imaginations fired to pervert the
results at every oppportunity.

TopCounsel You don't mean what you say when you use the term "OMNIVORES" in the context of what
we're talking about....and use examples like "deer". Part of the deer is the antlers, hide, teeth,
hoofs, and bone. Not too many primates can injest a deer and "break it down" within their natural
physiology. However a crocodile can injest a deer and it's physiology will break down the bone,
hide, etc. and so forth.

Now with that agreed on and in the context natural physiology......why don't you think we naturally
have the required fluids in our mouths & intestines (as many animals do) to fully break down beef
after we injest it?

There are fruits with seeds and pits that will never break-down if consumed. If you don't pass it,
it will stay in your intestines forever. Do you think that pit or seed was meant to be brought into
your physiology? If *some* beef functions like that seed....what can we say about beef?

It's a fact most Americans die with an amount (pounds) of undigested meat in their intestines/colon.
I don't believe a food substance that stays undigested within your physiology / body for
years/decades should have been injested in the first place. Now is that an extreme statement?