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Mag or fluid trainers?

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  1. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Compton said:

    While not heavy in the above context, what is described as a heavy flywheel on a trainer does
    give a much better feel to the device. A heavier flywheel "takes the edge off" the too-fast
    pedal acceleration. Is it a perfect? No. Is it much better? Oh, yes.

    Tom, I'd agree, as I think I said above, that a flywheel does change the feel. What I said is that
    the 6-lb flywheel on a Kurt Kinetic doesn't make a critical difference in training. My Tacx Flow
    doesn't have realistic road feel and I'm not sure it makes much of a training difference.


    I have wondered about what the training difference could be. Range of motion is the same. Nominal
    cadence is the same. Wattage is the same. Yet the acceleration within a pedal stroke is very
    different, by maybe more than an order of magnitude. I think the "load" on the body may be the same,
    but the process within the muscle would seem to have to be very different.

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, exactly, and that's why that page that AlmostFast put up is so handy, regardless of how
    realistic the curves are, such as the bizarrely unrealistic CycleOps Magneto. BTW, I know you
    supplied some of the data for that page, including the Kurt Kinetic models: how did you
    standardize the tire-roller interface when you collected your measurements? And did you ever
    figure out why you got different curves on different trials?


    Tire-roller interface was 2.5 turns of the adjuster knob after contact with tire inflated to
    recommended pressure. I only supplied one set of data. The other set was from the author of the
    site. Don't know what caused the difference.

  2. Robert Chung said:

    ...the Kurt Kinetic models .... And did you ever figure out why you got different curves on
    different trials?

    --Robert

    From the page geocities.comtrainerpower

    "Maybe more data points give a better curve? Maybe time to warm up the fluid makes a difference?"

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