Magnesium and depression

I'm curious why you decided upon Magnesium as a reaction to sleep problems
and depression. Here is an article of interest:

dr-bob.org34072.htmlOpen ↗

Sleep problems are often associated with depression,
somewhat of a chicken/egg for some people. You might want to
try Melatonin to work on the sleep side of this and see if
more normal sleep helps with the mood changes also. I
wouldn't do Magnesium in combination, in which case any
results good or bad would be confused as to what helps. In
any case, changes in mood reactions usually take some amount
of time, weeks often, and isn't like aspirin and headache.
The change in brain chemistry takes time to sort itself out
and is a normal thing.

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I have taken a chelated amino acid for a couple of days now
and have had some interesting results. I've noticed that I
am more relaxed and my mood is up. My energy is also better
and I feel sharper cognitively. I also feel that I might be
a little more resilient but I need more time to judge this
better. There is no doubt that these effects have occured
but I am still having some ups and downs. Today I am
extremely tired. This may because of my persistant insomia
(waking up two hours too early) or I am wondering if I
should start taking the magnesium at night. Any thoughts on
dosing? Once or twice a day?

Does it take several days or weeks to realize the
complete effect?

Also, how have people done in the long term on magnesium?
Would love to hear your experiences.

P.S, I am in the process of switching to magnesium
chloride, malate, or citrate because I don't know what
the other amino acid is in my chelated form of magesium.
I've heard that it's important to avoid aspartate and
glutamate becaue it can make things worse?

I take magnesium on a regular basis. I took mag oxide for
years but I got many heel spurs which have been slowly going
away for a few years. You don't want them! 500-2000mg per
day was effective after a few months.

I have been using magnesium chelated for a while now and
it seems OK too. I usually try to swallow about 500-
1000mg per day.

Effects. Chemical allergies are basically gone. Aches and
pains and chronic inflammation disappears but reappears
quickly upon stopping mag supplementation. I believe this is
a pH level thing. The same thing happened for me with
sodium/potassium bi-carb supplements also. These effects
take a few months to effect. Take at night for better sleep.

I have been using magnesium (not steady) for about 5 years
and only wonder what all the fuss about calcium is when
magnesium is the one that does all the wonder effects. I
cannot take any form of calcium I have tried yet without
reversing all the good magnesium effects... makes me ache
and hurt and lose sleep.

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Quoted message said:

I have taken a chelated amino acid for a couple of days
now and have had some interesting results. I've noticed
that I am more relaxed and my mood is up. My energy is
also better and I feel sharper cognitively. I also feel
that I might be a little more resilient but I need more
time to judge this better. There is no doubt that these
effects have occured but I am still having some ups and
downs. Today I am extremely tired. This may because of my
persistant insomia (waking up two hours too early) or I am
wondering if I should start taking the magnesium at night.
Any thoughts on dosing? Once or twice a day?

Does it take several days or weeks to realize the
complete effect?

Also, how have people done in the long term on magnesium?
Would love to hear your experiences.

P.S, I am in the process of switching to magnesium
chloride, malate, or citrate because I don't know what
the other amino acid is in my chelated form of
magesium. I've heard that it's important to avoid
aspartate and glutamate becaue it can make things
worse?

I choose magnesium on my doctor's reccomendation because I
was having muscle spasms and other symptoms of
hyperexcitibility. There have been empirical studies showing
it's utility for sleep problems and also studies showing a
relationship to anxiety and depression. there are several
positive anecdotes on various disscussion forms for these
uses as well.

I have seen a couple of negative responses to magnesium.
This could because of the form (e.g. magnesium glutamate,
and magnesium aspartate) or could just simply be too much
magnesium. It's hard to say.

It will be interesting to see how it pans out for me. I'll
post back if enough people seem interested. Thanks again,

Mike

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Quoted message said:

I'm curious why you decided upon Magnesium as a reaction
to sleep problems and depression. Here is an article of
interest:

dr-bob.org34072.htmlOpen ↗

Sleep problems are often associated with depression,
somewhat of a chicken/egg for some people. You might want
to try Melatonin to work on the sleep side of this and see
if more normal sleep helps with the mood changes also. I
wouldn't do Magnesium in combination, in which case any
results good or bad would be confused as to what helps. In
any case, changes in mood reactions usually take some
amount of time, weeks often, and isn't like aspirin and
headache. The change in brain chemistry takes time to sort
itself out and is a normal thing.

Quoted message said:

I have taken a chelated amino acid for a couple of days
now and have had some interesting results. I've noticed
that I am more relaxed and my mood is up. My energy is
also better and I feel sharper cognitively. I also feel
that I might be a little more resilient but I need more
time to judge this better. There is no doubt that these
effects have occured but I am still having some ups and
downs. Today I am extremely tired. This may because of my
persistant insomia (waking up two hours too early) or I
am wondering if I should start taking the magnesium at
night. Any thoughts on dosing? Once or twice a day?

Does it take several days or weeks to realize the
complete effect?

Also, how have people done in the long term on magnesium?
Would love to hear your experiences.

P.S, I am in the process of switching to magnesium
chloride, malate, or citrate because I don't know what
the other amino acid is in my chelated form of
magesium. I've heard that it's important to avoid
aspartate and glutamate becaue it can make things
worse?

Anything I have heard negative about magnesium is all
hearsay and speculation to this date.

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I choose magnesium on my doctor's reccomendation because I
was having muscle spasms and other symptoms of
hyperexcitibility. There have been empirical studies
showing it's utility for sleep problems and also studies
showing a relationship to anxiety and depression. there
are several positive anecdotes on various disscussion
forms for these uses as well.

I have seen a couple of negative responses to magnesium.
This could because of the form (e.g. magnesium glutamate,
and magnesium aspartate) or could just simply be too much
magnesium. It's hard to say.

It will be interesting to see how it pans out for me. I'll
post back if enough people seem interested. Thanks again,

Mike

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Quoted message said:

I'm curious why you decided upon Magnesium as a reaction
to sleep

problems

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Quoted message said:

and depression. Here is an article of interest:

dr-bob.org34072.htmlOpen ↗

Sleep problems are often associated with depression,
somewhat of a chicken/egg for some people. You might
want to try Melatonin to work on the sleep side of this
and see if more normal sleep helps with the mood changes
also. I wouldn't do Magnesium in combination, in which
case any results good or bad would be confused as to
what helps. In any case, changes in mood reactions
usually take some amount of time, weeks often, and isn't
like aspirin and headache. The change in brain chemistry

takes

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

time to sort itself out and is a normal thing.

Quoted message said:

I have taken a chelated amino acid for a couple of days
now and have had some interesting results. I've noticed
that I am more relaxed and my mood is up. My energy is
also better and I feel sharper cognitively. I also feel
that I might be a little more resilient but I need more
time to judge this better. There is no doubt that these
effects have occured but I am still having some ups and
downs. Today I am extremely tired. This may because of
my persistant insomia (waking up two hours too early)
or I am wondering if I should start taking the
magnesium at night. Any thoughts on dosing? Once or
twice a day?

Does it take several days or weeks to realize the
complete effect?

Also, how have people done in the long term on
magnesium? Would love to hear your experiences.

P.S, I am in the process of switching to magnesium
chloride, malate, or citrate because I don't know
what the other amino acid is in my chelated form of
magesium. I've heard that it's important to avoid
aspartate and glutamate becaue it can make things
worse?

On 6 Mar 2004 19:29:52 -0800, [email hidden] (Mike) typed:

Quoted message said:

I choose magnesium on my doctor's reccomendation because I
was having muscle spasms and other symptoms of
hyperexcitibility.

I'm interested. How do mean excitability. This somehow rings
true for me in that I find that I just cannot get into a
relaxed enough state to sleep. I also feel as if I'm
slightly buzzing at times like these. Hard to put into
words. Like I just can't shut down (not worry or anxiety) or
go into deep sleep phase. Just a sort of peripheral slumber.

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It will be interesting to see how it pans out for me. I'll
post back if enough people seem interested. Thanks again,

Definately interested. Just out of interest do you have any
problems with digestion.

How would you know it isn't anxiety or depression?

These things come on so slowly that we have no comparison so
that it doesn't feel "not normal".

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On 6 Mar 2004 19:29:52 -0800, [email hidden]
(Mike) typed:

Quoted message said:

I choose magnesium on my doctor's reccomendation because
I was having muscle spasms and other symptoms of
hyperexcitibility.

I'm interested. How do mean excitability. This somehow
rings true for me in that I find that I just cannot get
into a relaxed enough state to sleep. I also feel as if
I'm slightly buzzing at times like these. Hard to put into
words. Like I just can't shut down (not worry or anxiety)
or go into deep sleep phase. Just a sort of peripheral
slumber.

Quoted message said:

It will be interesting to see how it pans out for me.
I'll post back if enough people seem interested.
Thanks again,

Definately interested. Just out of interest do you have
any problems with digestion.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:17:00 GMT, "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]>
typed:

Quoted message said:

How would you know it isn't anxiety or depression?

These things come on so slowly that we have no comparison
so that it doesn't feel "not normal".

<snip>

I would like to give you an answer dear, but your reply post
was poorly set out. Try snipping and posting at the bottom
of the paragraph you are alluding to it makes it much
clearer. Thanks.

I top post and the remainder is just hogwash and history so
your comments are not really founded. Suit yourself honey.

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Quoted message said:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:17:00 GMT, "Pizza Girl"
<[email hidden]> typed:

Quoted message said:

How would you know it isn't anxiety or depression?

These things come on so slowly that we have no comparison
so that it

doesn't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feel "not normal".

<snip>

I would like to give you an answer dear, but your reply
post was poorly set out. Try snipping and posting at the
bottom of the paragraph you are alluding to it makes it
much clearer. Thanks.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:42 GMT, "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]>
typed:

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I top post and the remainder is just hogwash and history so
your comments are not really founded. Suit yourself honey.

Fine. Your response is that of a juvenile. Don't ask me any
questions until you've learnt how to behave like an adult.

Jeez, grown-ups are thin on the ground these days.

When you are done your hissy fit step away from the
keyboard.

Hard to get any help when you act like an ignoramus isn't
it?

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Quoted message said:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:42 GMT, "Pizza Girl"
<[email hidden]> typed:

Quoted message said:

I top post and the remainder is just hogwash and
history so your comments are not really founded. Suit
yourself honey.

Fine. Your response is that of a juvenile. Don't ask
me any questions until you've learnt how to behave
like an adult.

Jeez, grown-ups are thin on the ground these days.