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  1. I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay

  2. Eat green veggies. The greener the better. And don't eat a lot of
    grains and sugar and other high carb foods. That [censored] is what will
    cause you to lose bone density.

    TC

    Fay said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Fay said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay

    No, it does not matter if you get too much.
    It'll be excreted...

    Here is how _I_ make a delicious bone stock, suitable for using to cook
    rice or make rich stews and soups.

    Place a plastic bin in the freezer and save all bones, Beef, pork,
    chicken, duck, turkey, it does not matter.

    When you have enough bones to fill a pressure cooker about 2/3 full, put
    them in there and add water to just cover the bones. To that, add one
    large chopped onion, 3 cloves of minced garlic (or 1 tsp. of garlic
    powder), 4 chopped ribs of celery and some ground black pepper to taste.
    A bay leaf or two is also appropriate as are any herbal flavorings that
    you like. Basil, Thyme, Parsley, etc.

    Put the lid on and bring the pressure cooker up to pressure. Allow to
    pressure on high for 30 to 40 minutes.

    Turn off the heat and allow to cool.

    Strain out the bones and let them cool. Harvest any remaining meat and
    melted cartalige, and the veggies. Add them back to the broth.

    Go from there with soup/stew recipes and this also freezes well. Once
    the broth has cooled, you can skim off the fat as well.

    The broth will be rich in calcium and phosphorous and taste really good
    if you did it right.

    Salt to taste.

    Pressure cookers for bone stock are FAR more efficient than boiling!
    Faster too.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. And being too sedentary. ;-)

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    TC said:

    Eat green veggies. The greener the better. And don't eat a lot of
    grains and sugar and other high carb foods. That [censored] is what will
    cause you to lose bone density.

    TC

    Fay said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay



    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  5. "Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay


    Hi Fay,

    All your questions can be answered by joining this email list:
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyondprice/
    and/or by purchasing this book:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967089735/104-9129916-3331926?v=glance

    René

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, "Rene" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay


    Hi Fay,

    All your questions can be answered by joining this email list:
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyondprice/
    and/or by purchasing this book:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967089735/104-9129916-3331926?v
    =glance

    René

    But they would be better answered by rec.food.cooking

    She asked about a soup stock initially but when she started talking
    about doing a vinegar extraction of bones, that's not soup.....

    That's chemistry. ;-)

    And it would taste like Sh**.

    What I suggested would actually be delicious, and nutritious.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Rene" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    of [censored] and very little reliable information.

    What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    calcium.

    Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?

    What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?

    I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    Would it matter if I got too much?

    Fay


    Hi Fay,

    All your questions can be answered by joining this email list:
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyondprice/
    and/or by purchasing this book:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967089735/104-9129916-3331926?v
    =glance

    René

    But they would be better answered by rec.food.cooking

    She asked about a soup stock initially but when she started talking
    about doing a vinegar extraction of bones, that's not soup.....

    That's chemistry. ;-)

    And it would taste like Sh**.

    What I suggested would actually be delicious, and nutritious.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
    Nicholson

    But it doesn't taste like Sh**. Vinegar is needed to create the high
    calcium stock she is looking for. Long, slow cooking produces nutritious
    foods. I'm not so sure about fast pressure cooking. The pressure cooker is
    on the do not use list in Nourishing Traditions, the book I recommended.

    René

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, "Rene" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Rene" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Fay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > I've been searching the web on this topic and been finding a great deal
    > of [censored] and very little reliable information.
    >
    > What I've gathered so far is that the bones should be at least cracked
    > and ideally smashed. Half a cup or so of vinegar should be added to
    > dissolve out the calcium. Because the acetic acid boils off this should
    > first be left overnight to soak cold. Then it should be boiled for at
    > least two hours which removes the acetic acid and leaves the dissolved
    > calcium.
    >
    > Is this on the right lines? If I want to get the most calcium should I
    > soak it for longer? Should I boil it for longer?
    >
    > What about pans? With this much vinegar should I avoid aluminium pans?
    > Should I avoid metal pans altogether and soak in a glass bowl? Would
    > boiling it in an iron pot or a stainless steel pot be better?
    >
    > I'm interested in getting enough calcium into the bone stock that soups
    > made from it will be a useful calcium supplement for a post-menopausal
    > woman. Is there a way of estimating how much calcium I can get like
    > this? Is there a way I can measure calcium content in the kitchen?
    > Would it matter if I got too much?
    >
    > Fay
    >
    Hi Fay,

    All your questions can be answered by joining this email list:
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyondprice/
    and/or by purchasing this book:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967089735/104-9129916-333192
    6?v
    =glance

    René

    But they would be better answered by rec.food.cooking

    She asked about a soup stock initially but when she started talking
    about doing a vinegar extraction of bones, that's not soup.....

    That's chemistry. ;-)

    And it would taste like Sh**.

    What I suggested would actually be delicious, and nutritious.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
    Nicholson

    But it doesn't taste like Sh**. Vinegar is needed to create the high
    calcium stock she is looking for. Long, slow cooking produces nutritious
    foods. I'm not so sure about fast pressure cooking. The pressure cooker is
    on the do not use list in Nourishing Traditions, the book I recommended.

    René

    The pressure cooker is on my "do use" list.
    Faster cooking times for more foods IMHO actually keep a lot more
    nutrition than long slow cooking.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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