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  1. Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

  2. Garlic oil can be a hazard! Storing garlic in oil is not safe --
    botulism! Throw it out!!!! (and check with your local health
    department or USDA about garlic in oil)

    The oil I make and use most often is made with cleaned and then dried
    rosemary springs, which I poke into a smallish bottle of very good
    olive oil. I add a few whole peppercorns, too. Shelf life for that
    oil seems very good, and I make enough to last until the following
    year. Another very nice oil to make is olive oil with cleaned, dried
    lemon peels (only the zest part -- no white pith!) That is a wonderful
    oil for salad dressings, and seems to have at least a year of shelf
    life, too.

  3. In article said:

    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon


    From
    http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/questions/FAQ_canning.html#31

    How do I can oil with herbs? Can I can pesto?
    Herbs and oils are both low-acid and together could support the growth
    of the disease-causing Clostridium botulinum bacteria. Oils may be
    flavored with herbs if they are made up for fresh use, stored in the
    refrigerator and used within 2 to 3 days. There are no canning
    recommendations. Fresh herbs must be washed well and dried completely
    before storing in the oil. The very best sanitation and personal hygiene
    practices must be used. Pesto is an uncooked seasoning mixture of herbs,
    usually including fresh basil, and some oil. It may be frozen for long
    term storage; there are no home canning recommendations.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 2-4-2006, Masa

  4. Mary said:

    Garlic oil can be a hazard! Storing garlic in oil is not safe --
    botulism! Throw it out!!!! (and check with your local health
    department or USDA about garlic in oil)

    The oil I make and use most often is made with cleaned and then dried
    rosemary springs, which I poke into a smallish bottle of very good
    olive oil. I add a few whole peppercorns, too. Shelf life for that
    oil seems very good, and I make enough to last until the following
    year. Another very nice oil to make is olive oil with cleaned, dried
    lemon peels (only the zest part -- no white pith!) That is a wonderful
    oil for salad dressings, and seems to have at least a year of shelf
    life, too.

    I'm totally the luckiest little [censored] in the world. When I was in college I
    used to fill deorative bottles with oil and garlic (roasted or raw) and sun
    dried tomatoes and it lived on my counter and I used it to saute food all the
    time.

    I freaked when I read about the botulism thing later. I had no idea. Luckiest
    [censored] in the world.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  5. "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    Everything I've read on making flavored oils says 'don't do a flavored oil
    with garlic'. There is a problem with botulism. Other oils, such as rosemary
    (2 Tblsp to a pint) or oregano flavored (same), are fine.

  6. biig said:

    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    See Barb's note in this thread - don't do ANY herb-flavored oils unless
    you store them in the fridge and use them within a few days.

    N.

  7. Kswck said:

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    Everything I've read on making flavored oils says 'don't do a flavored oil
    with garlic'. There is a problem with botulism. Other oils, such as rosemary
    (2 Tblsp to a pint) or oregano flavored (same), are fine.

    It isn't safe to do ANY herb-flavored oils, including oregano,
    rosemary, parsley, or anything else. Read Barb's post in this thread.

    N.

  8. Nancy1 said:
    Kswck said:

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    Everything I've read on making flavored oils says 'don't do a flavored oil
    with garlic'. There is a problem with botulism. Other oils, such as rosemary
    (2 Tblsp to a pint) or oregano flavored (same), are fine.

    It isn't safe to do ANY herb-flavored oils, including oregano,
    rosemary, parsley, or anything else. Read Barb's post in this thread.

    N.

    Actually, making the stuff is not a problem, it's the keeping that's the problem.
    Flavored oils made with fresh produce can be kept refrigerated for a few days.
    Made with dried herbs or garlic, a week or so, refrigerated. Flavored vinegar on
    the other hand keeps forever even out of the fridge.
    Edrena

  9. The Joneses said:
    Nancy1 said:
    Kswck said:

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    > Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    >cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    Everything I've read on making flavored oils says 'don't do a flavored oil
    with garlic'. There is a problem with botulism. Other oils, such as rosemary
    (2 Tblsp to a pint) or oregano flavored (same), are fine.

    It isn't safe to do ANY herb-flavored oils, including oregano,
    rosemary, parsley, or anything else. Read Barb's post in this thread.

    N.

    Actually, making the stuff is not a problem, it's the keeping that's the problem.
    Flavored oils made with fresh produce can be kept refrigerated for a few days.
    Made with dried herbs or garlic, a week or so, refrigerated. Flavored vinegar on
    the other hand keeps forever even out of the fridge.

    Keeping isn't a problem unless you want to leave the solids in the oil.
    When I make commercial infused oils, I warm the oils with the solids
    in them to extract the volatiles from herbs, garlic, citrus zest, etc. I
    let them infuse for 24 hours and then filter out all the solids, and
    discard them. I use paper filters so they'll absorb any water-based
    liquids emitted by the solids. That resulting filtered oil can be stored
    at room temp for a reasonable time, preferably in the dark. Storing it
    in the fridge will lengthen its useful life.

    Vinegars will lose potency over time. I make a hot pepper vinegar that
    will help anyone focus on their dead and dying taste buds. But after a
    year, it's nowhere near as potent. There's no reason to store vinegar in
    the fridge.

    Pastorio

  10. biig said:

    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    An easy solution is to add a bit of lemon juice or vinegar to the oil..
    about 1tbsp per cup of oil.. this stops the spores from reproducing

  11. Jerry Steinbach said:
    biig said:

    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    An easy solution is to add a bit of lemon juice or vinegar to the oil..
    about 1tbsp per cup of oil.. this stops the spores from reproducing

    Lemon juice and vinegar are not soluble in oil. So it won't work.

    Bob

  12. Jerry Steinbach said:
    biig said:

    Has anyone has any experience with this? I made some with garlic
    cloves, but read on the ng that shelf life is not great. tia...Sharon

    An easy solution is to add a bit of lemon juice or vinegar to the oil..
    about 1tbsp per cup of oil.. this stops the spores from reproducing

    Sorry. That's not true. The vinegar or lemon juice won't mix with the
    oil. Spores don't reproduce. Don't guess about this stuff.

    It's a very bad idea to put any fresh foods of any kind into oils unless
    you fully understand the conditions that render it safe.

    If you don't know what you're doing, it only takes once to change your
    life forever. You could kill someone, or perhaps worse, maim them for
    life. Or yourself.

    Pastorio

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