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  1. I'm working on a web page that lets people plot their gps data on
    google maps -- schematic or satellite images. It's really quite cool.
    Check it out, and let me know if there's more features you'd like to
    see!

    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/userEnteredData.html

    The reason I got a GPS unit in the first place was to map out some
    mountain bike trails (notably, the Don Valley trails in Toronto, which
    appear not to be mapped anywhere?). If you have gps data for some
    trails and you'd like to see it on satellite images, check out the
    above URL.

    Jimmy

  2. Looks pretty good i must admit, but isnt this sort of thing already
    available?

  3. Well, not quite (at least, not as far as I know). What's original about
    this is that it is web based (Google just released this functionality
    to programmers at the beginning of July). It being web based means that
    it will be easy to share maps this way. Without this, GPS unit owners
    must use (and buy!) whatever proprietary software comes with their GPS
    Unit, and they can't share maps with others. I'm wanting this to be a
    standard way of sharing mountain bike trail maps...

    I think a really cool other application would be for riders to record
    their position during races, and then compare their entire race with
    other people -- to see who's faster/slower during which part of the
    track. I'm really excited about the possibilities of (very accurate)
    GPS tracking + mapping + sharing that information.

    I actually mapped out a trail last night, but I got home and realized I
    forgot to turn on the darn recording on my GPS unit. So look like I'll
    be back out there again tonight 🙂

  4. Jimmy said:

    Well, not quite (at least, not as far as I know). What's original
    about this is that it is web based (Google just released this
    functionality to programmers at the beginning of July). It being web
    based means that it will be easy to share maps this way. Without
    this, GPS unit owners must use (and buy!) whatever proprietary
    software comes with their GPS Unit, and they can't share maps with
    others. I'm wanting this to be a standard way of sharing mountain
    bike trail maps...

    That's just not true. For example, my Garmin Etrex works with TOPO CD,
    Garmin, Topofusion and Mapquest just to name a few. I did have to buy
    software, but it's certainly not proprietary. If someone is telling you
    this, they are just wrong.

    Penny

  5. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm working on a web page that lets people plot their gps data on
    google maps -- schematic or satellite images. It's really quite cool.
    Check it out, and let me know if there's more features you'd like to
    see!

    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/userEnteredData.html

    The reason I got a GPS unit in the first place was to map out some
    mountain bike trails (notably, the Don Valley trails in Toronto, which
    appear not to be mapped anywhere?). If you have gps data for some
    trails and you'd like to see it on satellite images, check out the
    above URL.

    Jimmy

    You may want to add or standardize on the GPx file format.

    http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp

    --
    Pete Rissler
    http://web1.greatbasin.net/~rissler/
    http://www.tccycling.com

  6. Well, there may be open formats (meaning, the same data can be loaded
    in different software), but are you free to (legally) distribute any of
    the software you mentioned above? That's what I meant by proprietary
    software.

    And if you were able to legally distribute them, are any of them web
    based -- no software to install? I guess mapquest has maps online, but
    trackpoints can't be plotted on that, right?

  7. Thanks! You're the 2nd person to suggest that -- so that's validated!
    I'll do that.

  8. I'm liking your idea now you put it like that!

    J

  9. I'm liking your idea now you put it like that!

    J

  10. It looks good. Is there any way to do it in reverse? As in, get a GPS
    trackpoint from the cursor position on the map?

  11. Coyoteboy said:

    I'm liking your idea now you put it like that!

    Huh? Who? What? How?

  12. Hehe were those rethorical questions?

  13. Yeah, that's actually really easy -- good idea!

  14. Jimmy said:

    Yeah, that's actually really easy -- good idea!

    what is?

    ( look into quoting the post you are replying to...)

  15. That would be neat, it's a pet peeve of mine, none of the online maps
    offer that!

  16. I've added a couple of new maps, this time showing GPS data recorded
    while mountain biking.

    It still only works for Internet Explorer. The first map shows my
    course going slowly, and the second going faster (still not that fast,
    I'm not that great a mountain biker 🙂 ). Going faster didn't seem to
    make the readings worse, so that's good news.

    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount1.html
    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount2.html

    Jimmy

  17. Jimmy said:

    Unit, and they can't share maps with others. I'm wanting this to be a
    standard way of sharing mountain bike trail maps...

    Well its nice that it shows the trail in relation to other roads. It
    doesn't give any indication of the topology, which can always be
    deceiving. The few trails I mapped out with a friend's GPS seemed to be
    better indicated in a 3-D view, e.g.:

    http://bbauer.gomen.org/fpark/f12-newton.jpg

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  18. BB: yeah, my original idea was to show the trails in 3D. But then, I
    fell upon the google maps stuff, and just had to do something with that
    right away.

    You got your hands on a pretty good topo map. I assume the height
    values come from the map, and not the GPS unit?

    Jimmy

  19. "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've added a couple of new maps, this time showing GPS data recorded
    while mountain biking.

    It still only works for Internet Explorer. The first map shows my
    course going slowly, and the second going faster (still not that fast,
    I'm not that great a mountain biker 🙂 ). Going faster didn't seem to
    make the readings worse, so that's good news.

    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount1.html
    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount2.html

    Jimmy

    Jimmy, nice map I take it you are using the pay version of Google Earth. My
    limited experience with Google Earth is that the resolution is good in urban
    areas and borderlining bad the more remote the areas.

    You can add a re-radiating antenna http://pc-mobile.net/gpsant.htm I have
    used one in my truck with my Garmin Legend...they work very well. Without
    the antenna, I get good reception by placing my Legend; in my Camelback, on
    top off my water bladder, making sure patch antenna points up.

    Having lost a couple of bike computers due to OTB's and bushwacking...is why
    I did not go the handlebar mount method.

  20. "Dean A. Stepper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jimmy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've added a couple of new maps, this time showing GPS data recorded
    while mountain biking.

    It still only works for Internet Explorer. The first map shows my
    course going slowly, and the second going faster (still not that fast,
    I'm not that great a mountain biker 🙂 ). Going faster didn't seem to
    make the readings worse, so that's good news.

    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount1.html
    http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~jtalbot/maps/easyTrailBikeMount2.html

    Jimmy

    Jimmy, nice map I take it you are using the pay version of Google Earth.


    My

    Quoted message said:

    limited experience with Google Earth is that the resolution is good in


    urban

    Quoted message said:

    areas and borderlining bad the more remote the areas.

    Exactly. And the remote areas are where I really want to use Google Earth.

    Greg

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