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Come on, Markd, who do you work for?

TC

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Come on markd, fess up. Who pays ya baby?

TC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an insurance
company. I have no financial interests in any diet or
nutrition related business or product, nor do I have any
financial interest with any food or pharmaceutical company
or business.

See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

TC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an insurance
company. I have no financial interests in any diet or
nutrition related business or product, nor do I have any
financial interest with any food or pharmaceutical company
or business.

Insurance companies do have a finacial interest in both
foods and pharmaceutical companies.

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See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

TC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an insurance
company. I have no financial interests in any diet or
nutrition related business or product, nor do I have any
financial interest with any food or pharmaceutical
company or business.

Insurance companies do have a finacial interest in both
foods and pharmaceutical companies.

Not this one. And I'm a salaried IT person. I own no part of
the company.

TC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an insurance
company. I have no financial interests in any diet or
nutrition related business or product, nor do I have any
financial interest with any food or pharmaceutical company
or business.

See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

Let me get this straight, TC. You can speak authoritatively
on nutrition science because you're a computer programmer
and not a nutrition scientist???!!! You have a financial
interest in the programs you write: therefore they are
likely to be biased and full of logical errors? Is that your
kind of logic? If a univer- sity professor consults for a
food company, then his papers can't be based on objective
science, but are always and only based on the interests of
that food company?

GWC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an insurance
company. I have no financial interests in any diet or
nutrition related business or product, nor do I have any
financial interest with any food or pharmaceutical
company or business.

See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

Let me get this straight, TC. You can speak
authoritatively on nutrition science because you're a
computer programmer and not a nutrition scientist???!!!
You have a financial interest in the programs you write:
therefore they are likely to be biased and full of logical
errors? Is that your kind of logic? If a univer- sity
professor consults for a food company, then his papers
can't be based on objective science, but are always and
only based on the interests of that food company?

GWC

My strength is research. I am also good at recognizing
inconsistencies in science. I have made a study of nutrition
for more than three years now. I know more about nutrition
than most doctors. I have read most university textbooks and
hundreds, if not thousands, of research papers. I understand
the science of nutrition. My training in programming has
taught me to ferret out the truth in data and information,
and meticulously I may add.

Any researcher who accepts money from the food or
pharmaceutical industry is suspect in terms if his
motivations in scientific research. Some are completely
corrupt, others are less so, and a few are incorruptible and
true to the science. That is the sad reality. It is our job
to filter out the wheat from the chaff and find the good
science and villify the corrupt.

TC

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This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.

I'll get the ball rolling for you:

I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an
insurance company. I have no financial interests in
any diet or nutrition related business or product, nor
do I have any financial interest with any food or
pharmaceutical company or business.

See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

Let me get this straight, TC. You can speak
authoritatively on nutrition science because you're a
computer programmer and not a nutrition scientist???!!!
You have a financial interest in the programs you write:
therefore they are likely to be biased and full of
logical errors? Is that your kind of logic? If a univer-
sity professor consults for a food company, then his
papers can't be based on objective science, but are
always and only based on the interests of that food
company?

GWC

My strength is research. I am also good at recognizing
inconsistencies in science. I have made a study of
nutrition for more than three years now. I know more about
nutrition than most doctors.

Wow! And I bet you can fly higher than most pigs.

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I have read most university textbooks and hundreds, if not
thousands, of research papers.

That would be at least a textbook per week and about one
research paper per day. And you work as a computer
programmer. Do you also keep abreast of advances in computer
science and soft- ware engineering?

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I understand the science of nutrition. My training in
programming has taught me to ferret out the truth in data
and information, and meticulously I may add.

Any researcher who accepts money from the food or
pharmaceutical industry is suspect in terms if his
motivations in scientific research. Some are completely
corrupt, others are less so, and a few are incorruptible
and true to the science. That is the sad reality. It is
our job to filter out the wheat from the chaff and find
the good science and villify the corrupt.

TC

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> This is getting really suspicious, Toady-boy.
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> I'll get the ball rolling for you:
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> I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an
> insurance company. I have no financial interests in
> any diet or nutrition related business or product,
> nor do I have any financial interest with any food
> or pharmaceutical company or business.
>
> See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.

Let me get this straight, TC. You can speak
authoritatively on nutrition science because you're a
computer programmer and not a nutrition
scientist???!!! You have a financial interest in the
programs you write: therefore they are likely to be
biased and full of logical errors? Is that your kind
of logic? If a univer- sity professor consults for a
food company, then his papers can't be based on
objective science, but are always and only based on
the interests of that food company?

GWC

My strength is research. I am also good at recognizing
inconsistencies in science. I have made a study of
nutrition for more than three years now. I know more
about nutrition than most doctors.

Wow! And I bet you can fly higher than most pigs.

I also fly small planes, so yes I can fly higher than
most pigs!

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I have read most university textbooks and hundreds, if
not thousands, of research papers.

That would be at least a textbook per week and about one
research paper per day. And you work as a computer
programmer. Do you also keep abreast of advances in
computer science and soft- ware engineering?

That is about right, except I usually read probably a
dozen or more research papers a week. Not only do I keep
abreast of advances in computer science and software
engineering, I work daily with cutting edge programming
and modelling tools. I am the goto person in my shop. When
no one knows how to resolve a problem, I get called in.
I've yet to be called in to a problem that I wasn't able
to resolve in a time efficient manner. Like I said,
research is my forte, if some one needs info I know where
and how to find it, and quick.

Some of us have it and some of us don't.

TC

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> > I work as a computer programmer/analyst for an
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> > with any food or pharmaceutical company or
> > business.
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> > See, it is that easy. Now... it's your turn.
>
> Let me get this straight, TC. You can speak
> authoritatively on nutrition science because you're
> a computer programmer and not a nutrition
> scientist???!!! You have a financial interest in the
> programs you write: therefore they are likely to be
> biased and full of logical errors? Is that your kind
> of logic? If a univer- sity professor consults for a
> food company, then his papers can't be based on
> objective science, but are always and only based on
> the interests of that food company?
>
> GWC

My strength is research. I am also good at recognizing
inconsistencies in science. I have made a study of
nutrition for more than three years now. I know more
about nutrition than most doctors.

Wow! And I bet you can fly higher than most pigs.

I also fly small planes, so yes I can fly higher than
most pigs!

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I have read most university textbooks and hundreds, if
not thousands, of research papers.

That would be at least a textbook per week and about one
research paper per day. And you work as a computer
programmer. Do you also keep abreast of advances in
computer science and soft- ware engineering?

That is about right, except I usually read probably a
dozen or more research papers a week. Not only do I keep
abreast of advances in computer science and software
engineering, I work daily with cutting edge programming
and modelling tools. I am the goto person in my shop.

"Goto Considered Harmful" -- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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When no one knows how to resolve a problem, I get called
in. I've yet to be called in to a problem that I wasn't
able to resolve in a time efficient manner. Like I said,
research is my forte, if some one needs info I know where
and how to find it, and quick.

Some of us have it and some of us don't.

TC

This restatement of your failure doesn't the energy balance
model in the least suspect make, to date both theory and
emperical results in support of it have been provided,
highlighting another failure.

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And oddly enough, after looking for the proof behind the
applicability of calorie theory to weight loss in humans
for many years now, I've yet to find it. And no one,
*including yourself*, has been able to produce it. Methinks
it dost not existeth. If it does please share it with us.
One would think that it would be easy to find, considering
that it is the very basis of modern nutritional science.

My point, all along, is... what have we based our science
on? When it comes to calories and weight management, it
appears that it is based on nothing. Assumptions? Guess
work? Popular beliefs as opposed to scientific fact. An
entire school of scientific thought based on nothing more
than scientific thought.

Calories and weight loss ...no proof, no success (98%
failure), no science......... Nothing!

TC