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  1. Mass Killings Ordered, Committed,
    Or Approved By God
    The entire population of the earth at the time of Noah, except for eight
    survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was destroyed which was
    upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things,
    and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah
    only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark." Gen. 7:23

    Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah, and of the surrounding plain, by "brimstone and fire from
    the Lord out of heaven." Gen. 19:24 Lot's family fled.

    All the first-born of every family in Egypt, including children of those in the dungeons and the
    successor to the throne of Egypt's Pharaoh, by God on the first Passover night. Ex. 12:29

    All the hosts of Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots, who drown in the Red Sea while
    pursuing the Israelites. ". . . and the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea."
    Ex. 14:27,28

    Victims who perish in the conquest of seven nations in Canaan by the Jews under God's guidance so
    that the Jews can occupy their lands as God had promised Abraham. "When the Lord thy God shall bring
    thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the
    Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the
    Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the Lord thy God
    shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no
    covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them." Deut.
    7:1,2

    Amalek and his people, by the edge of the sword. "Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will
    have war with Amalek from generation to generation." As long as Aaron helped Moses to hold up his
    hands, the Israelites prevailed. Ex. 17:11,16 At times of crisis, the Lord often waxed whimsical.

    3,000 Israelites, massacred by their Levite tribe at the command of the Lord for worshipping the
    golden calf. "Take every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
    the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor."
    Ex. 32:27 These were the orders of a God who would brook no disloyalty, a self-styled "jealous" God.

    Rulers of Israel, 11 in number, who refused to invade the Promised Land after they had spied on it
    for 40 days. God kills them with a plague. Num.
    8:37

    250 Levite princes of the Jews who challenged the leadership of Moses. God would have killed the
    whole congregation, if Moses hadn't pointed out the injustice of such a course of action. Owing to
    Moses's plea for sanity, the Lord repented somewhat and re-fashioned the punishment. Letting his
    compassion prevail, he proceeded to open up the earth and bury alive "the wives, sons, and little
    children" of two of the princes, then sent a fire that consumed the remaining princes. The rest of
    the congregation, properly terrified, next made a covering for the altar out of their incense
    braziers. Num. 16:1-40 God was finally mollified.

    14,700 Jews in a plague, because they rebelled against Moses after the killing of the 250 princes.
    At last Aaron makes atonement with incense to stop the plague. Num. 16:41-49

    The Canaanites at Hormah, utterly destroyed by the Lord at the request of the Jews. Num. 21:3

    The Amorites at Heshbon. Israel "took all these cities." Moses summed up the slaughter: "We . . .
    utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones." Num. 21:25 and Deut. 2:34

    All the sons and subjects of Og, about whom the Lord said to Moses: "Fear him (the king of Bashan)
    not, for I have delivered him into thy hand." None was left alive. Num. 21:34,35

    24,000 Israelites who co-habited with Moabite women and worshipped Baal. "And the Lord said unto
    Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun . . ."
    Num. 25:4,9

    All the males and kings of the Midianites, because they worshipped idols, and all their wives and
    male children. "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Vex the Midianites, and smite them. Num.
    25:16,17 Num. 31:7,8

    The subjects of two kingdoms on the east side of the Jordan, in order that Reuben and Gad might
    seize these realms for their own as a gift from God. Num. 32

    The Ammonites, decimated by the Lord so that Lot might possess their land. Deut. 2:19-21

    The Horims, slain by God in order that Esau might acquire their land. Deut.
    9:22

    All the citizens of Jericho, except for a prostitute and her family. "And they utterly destroyed all
    in the city, man and woman, young and old, and ox
    . . . with the edge of the sword." Josh. 6 "They" make a grisly game of it, using the superstitious
    number "7" popular in the Bible, trumpet blasts, and marches around the doomed city. Joshua
    competes with Moses, the leader he replaced, for title of No. 1 Murderer (God's hit man) of the
    Old Testament, as he follows God's orders.

    Men of Ai, and the women and children, 12,000 in all (and the city burned), in a treacherous ambush
    conceived and directed by God. Joshua and his men smote them with the "edge of the sword." With the
    usual biblical hocus-pocus, Joshua held out his spear at arm's length until all the inhabitants were
    killed, then built an altar and sacrificed to God to celebrate the victory. (God always has demanded
    recognition of his beneficence!) Joshua hanged the king of Ai on a tree. Josh. 8:1-30 (Jesus was
    also to be "hanged on a tree." The precedent builds.)

    The armies of five kings of the Amorites, who beseiged Gibeon. "And the Lord
    . . . slew them with a great slaughter." He then chased the survivors and killed more of them with
    hailstones. Josh. 10:10,11 (The rest of the world apparently had to muddle along the best it
    could, while the Supreme Being was pre-occupied with the war games of some Semitic tribes. "You
    only have I known . . ." Amos 3:2)

    The five kings of the Amorites after being shut up in a cave and then brought before the
    congregation. Joshua exhorted his fellow Israelites to: "Come near: put your feet upon the necks of
    these kings. Thus shall the Lord do to all your enemies." He then slew all five and hanged their
    bodies. Josh. 10:16-26 The Bible specializes in such horror tales and yet is considered a proper
    book for children, in full confidence of its not being read.

    All the people of Makkedah, and their king hanged, by Joshua. Josh. 10:28

    All the people of Libnah. Not a soul remained; all were delivered to Joshua by the Lord. Josh.
    10:29,30 Joshua and God were agreed upon capital punishment.

    All the people of Lachish, by Joshua. Josh. 10:32

    All the people of Gezer. "And Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none
    remaining." Josh. 10:33 Joshua continues to display the sterling qualities that win favor
    with the Boss.

    All the people of Eglon. "They left none remaining." Josh. 10:34,35 (The Old Testament is a mixture
    of brutal history, poetry, narratives, and philosophy.)

    All the people of Hebron. "All the cities and souls that were therein." Josh. 10:36,37

    All the inhabitants of "the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the
    springs and all their kings; he left none remaining but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the
    Lord God of Israel commanded." Josh. 10:40 God's communications with Joshua usually took the form of
    military communiques, and Joshua was nothing if not a "clean sweeper."

    All 31 kings and inhabitants of their countries, of the hills and south country and land of Goshen
    and the valley and the plain and the mountain of Israel and the valley of the same from Mt. Halak to
    Mt. Hermon. "As God commanded Moses." Josh. 11:12,16,17 and 12:24 Joshua was happy to do Moses'
    dirty work, but the logistics must have been mind-boggling.

    The inhabitants of Gaza, Askelon, and Ekron, killed by Judah and Caleb. "And the Lord was with
    Judah." Judges 1:18,19

    10,000 Moabites, by the Israelites. ". . . and there escaped not a man." Judges 3:29

    10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites, conquered by Judah and Simeon. Judges 1:4 (Whoever did the body-
    counting always came out with a nice round figure.)

    600 Philistines, slain with an ox goad by Shamgar. Judges 3:31

    All the hosts of Sisera. "And all the hosts of Sisera fell upon the edge of the sword." Judges 4:16
    (Old Testament swords all had edges, no points.)

    120,000 Midianites by Gideon and his 300 men. Judges 8:10

    All but one, who managed to escape, of his 70 step-brothers by Abimelech, the son of one of God's
    favorite torturers, Gideon, in order to gain for himself the throne of Israel. Judges 9:5 Like
    father, like son.

    30 young Philistines by Samson, furious after they guess his riddle. "The spirit of the Lord came
    upon him." Judges 14:19

    Many Philistines with a "great slaughter" by Samson, because they burned his former wife and her
    father to death to avenge Samson, mistakenly thinking to win his approval. Judges 15

    All the lords of the Philistines and a houseful of men and women, including 3,000 on the roof, who
    perished when Samson pulled down the pillars, after calling upon God to restore his strength. "So
    the dead that he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life." Samson's bloody
    score included 1,000 Philistines slain with the jawbone of an ass when "the spirit of the Lord was
    upon him." Judges 15:14 and 16:27,30 (Is this the Holy Spirit that enchants the clergy?)

    25,100 Benjamites, who, with God on their side, fought against their fellow Jews. Judges 20:35

    50,070 people of Bethshemesh, struck dead by God, because a few of them who were working a field
    happened to glance into the Ark carrying the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments. "And the people
    lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." I Sam. 6:19 God
    kept grave-diggers of the Old Testament working overtime burying innocents.

    Philistines killed under Samuel. "And the hand of the Lord was against the Philistines." I Sam. 7:13
    (Does God really like anybody?)

    Philistines killed by Saul and Jonathan. "For the Lord hath delivered them into the hand of Israel."
    I Sam. 14:12,13,20

    The Ammonites who threaten Jabesh, slain by Saul and the children of Israel "so that two of them
    were not left together." I Sam. 11:11

    All the Amalekites killed by Saul upon God's orders. "Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.
    . ." I Sam. 15:3,7 (Bottle feeding was definitely recommended.)

    Thousands of Philistines slain by David's armies. "Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten
    thousands." I Sam. 18:5,6,7 and 23:5; II Sam.
    5:25 and 8:1

    200 Philistine men, killed by David to obtain their foreskins with which to purchase Saul's daughter
    to be his wife. I Sam. 18:27 (But that's minor surgery!)

    The Geshurites and the Gezrites and the Amalekites slain by David, "leaving neither man nor woman
    alive." I Sam. 27:8,9 (What about the infants and sucklings?)

    The Jebusites, killed by David when he captured Jerusalem from them. ". . . and smiteth the
    Jebusites, and the lame and the blind . . ." II Sam. 5:6,7,8

    The Moabites and 22,000 Syrians by David. "And the Lord preserved David." II Sam. 8:2,5,6,14

    40,000 horsemen of the Syrians, killed by David. II Sam. 10:18 (The horses, too?)

    The children of Ammon, by David's men. II Sam. 11:1

    The Ammonites of Rabbah and other cities, tortured to death by David. "He put them under saws and
    under harrows of iron and made them pass through the brick kiln." II Sam. 12:31 (David, today the
    patriarch most revered by the Jews, was a man who lived by the values and customs of his age.)

    Every man in Edom, killed by Joab and David. I Kings 11:15

    The murderers of one of Saul's sons, sentenced to death by David. "And David commanded his young
    men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged them up over the pool .
    . ." II Sam. 4:7,12 Such deeds are typical of the behavior of God's favorites in the Bible. Even
    though it was customary behavior at the time, surely Almighty God's standards of morality should not
    fluctuate.

    70,000 victims of a pestilence sent by the Lord, because David chose it as his punishment for taking
    a census. II Sam. 24:15

    450 prophets of Baal, killed by Elijah. "And the hand of the Lord was on Elijah." I Kings 18:40,46
    (God's motto was "better dead than mis-led."😉

    100,000 Syrian footmen, slaughtered in one day by the children of Israel. "Thus saith the Lord,
    Because the Syrians have said the Lord is God of the hills, but he is not God of the valleys;
    therefore will I deliver all this great multitude into thine hand . . ." A wall falls on the 27,000
    who are left. I Kings 20:28,29,30 (That certainly got God the valley vote!)

    100 Moabite troops, consumed by fire from heaven called down by Elijah when they question whether he
    is a man of God. II Kings 1 Wholesale murder is proof of Godliness in the Bible.

    42 children eaten by two bears, after Elisha curses them in the name of the Lord for making fun of
    his bald head. II Kings 2:23,24 (Similar nightmarish tragedies happen in fairy tales, but there they
    aren't perpetrated by God.)

    All who died in a 7-year famine sent by the Lord on Samaria. II Kings 8:1

    70 children of King Ahab of Israel, and all the rest of Ahab's "house," after God decreed they
    should all be destroyed. The heads of the children are put into baskets at the gates of the city. II
    Kings 9:8 and 10:1-11 (Baskets full of heads!) All of this was engineered by Jehu, whom God had
    chosen to succeed Ahab to the throne.

    42 children of the king of Judah, by their uncles, at Jehu's command. Elisha is the medium through
    which God communicates his inhuman demands for the annihilation of these entire families, and Jehu
    is all too eager to comply: "Come with me, and see my zeal for the Lord." For all his savagery he
    wins the praise of the Lord: "Thou hast done that which is right in mine eyes and hast done unto the
    house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart." II Kings 10:12-17,30 The God of the
    Christian Bible has little regard for the family as such.

    All worshippers of Baal in Samaria and Israel by 80 guards at the direction of Jehu. The victims
    were tricked into attending a Baal-worship service where they were all butchered. "And they smote
    them with the edge of the sword." II Kings 10:18-25

    185,000 Assyrians slain by one angel overnight. Thus the Lord defended Jerusalem. II Kings 19:35 The
    Christian conception of an angel puts a halo (much-needed) on the Old Testament variety.

    All the priests of heathen gods in Judah, slain by King Josiah. II Kings
    6:20

    500,000 men of Israel by King Abijah of Judah and his men. "God smote . . . all Israel before
    Abijah and Judah." II Chron. 13:16,17,18 This atrocity was the result of civil war between Israel
    and Judah.

    10,000 Edomites killed by Amaziah's men, who then carried away 10,000 more and "brought them to the
    top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they were all broken in pieces."
    II Chron. 25:11,12 Amaziah accepted the Lord's advice on this campaign.

    120,000 Judeans, massacred in one day by King Pekah of Israel, "because they had forsaken the Lord
    God." He also took 200,000 women and children captive as bondmen and bondwomen. These are all fellow
    Jews. II Chron. 28

    500 subjects of a Persian king and the ten sons of Haman who meet death as the result of the
    machinations of Queen Esther on behalf of her Jewish countrymen. Haman suffers the same fate.
    Esther's uncle Mordecai and the other Jews throughout the kingdom had refused to abandon their
    Mosaic law. Esther 3:5,8 and 7:10 and 9:1-14

    75,000 Persian subjects of King Ahasuerus by the Jews, urged on by Esther and Mordecai. Esther 9:16
    Esther's part in this is celebrated by a festive Jewish holiday, in which she is honored for saving
    her fellow Jews. It is called Purim.

    Job's children and servants by God in a contest with Satan over Job's loyalty to God. Job 1:13-19

  2. wholey_smoke said:

    Mass Killings Ordered, Committed, Or Approved By God The entire population of the earth at the
    time of Noah, except for eight survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was destroyed
    which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl
    of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that
    were with him in the ark." Gen. 7:23

    Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah, and of the surrounding plain, by "brimstone and fire from
    the Lord out of heaven." Gen. 19:24 Lot's family fled.

    All the first-born of every family in Egypt, including children of those in the dungeons and the
    successor to the throne of Egypt's Pharaoh, by God on the first Passover night. Ex. 12:29

    All the hosts of Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots, who drown in the Red Sea while
    pursuing the Israelites. ". . . and the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea." Ex.
    14:27,28

    Victims who perish in the conquest of seven nations in Canaan by the Jews under God's guidance so
    that the Jews can occupy their lands as God had promised Abraham. "When the Lord thy God shall
    bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before
    thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites,
    and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the
    Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou
    shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them." Deut.
    7:1,2

    Amalek and his people, by the edge of the sword. "Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will
    have war with Amalek from generation to generation." As long as Aaron helped Moses to hold up his
    hands, the Israelites prevailed. Ex. 17:11,16 At times of crisis, the Lord often waxed whimsical.

    3,000 Israelites, massacred by their Levite tribe at the command of the Lord for worshipping the
    golden calf. "Take every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
    the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his
    neighbor." Ex. 32:27 These were the orders of a God who would brook no disloyalty, a self-styled
    "jealous" God.

    Rulers of Israel, 11 in number, who refused to invade the Promised Land after they had spied on it
    for 40 days. God kills them with a plague. Num.
    14:37

    250 Levite princes of the Jews who challenged the leadership of Moses. God would have killed the
    whole congregation, if Moses hadn't pointed out the injustice of such a course of action. Owing to
    Moses's plea for sanity, the Lord repented somewhat and re-fashioned the punishment. Letting his
    compassion prevail, he proceeded to open up the earth and bury alive "the wives, sons, and little
    children" of two of the princes, then sent a fire that consumed the remaining princes. The rest of
    the congregation, properly terrified, next made a covering for the altar out of their incense
    braziers. Num. 16:1-40 God was finally mollified.

    14,700 Jews in a plague, because they rebelled against Moses after the killing of the 250 princes.
    At last Aaron makes atonement with incense to stop the plague. Num. 16:41-49

    The Canaanites at Hormah, utterly destroyed by the Lord at the request of the Jews. Num. 21:3

    The Amorites at Heshbon. Israel "took all these cities." Moses summed up the slaughter: "We . . .
    utterly destroyed the men and the women and the little ones." Num. 21:25 and Deut. 2:34

    All the sons and subjects of Og, about whom the Lord said to Moses: "Fear him (the king of Bashan)
    not, for I have delivered him into thy hand." None was left alive. Num. 21:34,35

    24,000 Israelites who co-habited with Moabite women and worshipped Baal. "And the Lord said unto
    Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun . . ."
    Num. 25:4,9

    All the males and kings of the Midianites, because they worshipped idols, and all their wives and
    male children. "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Vex the Midianites, and smite them. Num.
    25:16,17 Num. 31:7,8

    The subjects of two kingdoms on the east side of the Jordan, in order that Reuben and Gad might
    seize these realms for their own as a gift from God. Num. 32

    The Ammonites, decimated by the Lord so that Lot might possess their land. Deut. 2:19-21

    The Horims, slain by God in order that Esau might acquire their land. Deut.
    2:22

    All the citizens of Jericho, except for a prostitute and her family. "And they utterly destroyed
    all in the city, man and woman, young and old, and ox
    . . . with the edge of the sword." Josh. 6 "They" make a grisly game of it, using the
    superstitious number "7" popular in the Bible, trumpet blasts, and marches around the doomed
    city. Joshua competes with Moses, the leader he replaced, for title of No. 1 Murderer (God's hit
    man) of the Old Testament, as he follows God's orders.

    Men of Ai, and the women and children, 12,000 in all (and the city burned), in a treacherous
    ambush conceived and directed by God. Joshua and his men smote them with the "edge of the sword."
    With the usual biblical hocus-pocus, Joshua held out his spear at arm's length until all the
    inhabitants were killed, then built an altar and sacrificed to God to celebrate the victory. (God
    always has demanded recognition of his beneficence!) Joshua hanged the king of Ai on a tree. Josh.
    8:1-30 (Jesus was also to be "hanged on a tree." The precedent builds.)

    The armies of five kings of the Amorites, who beseiged Gibeon. "And the Lord
    . . . slew them with a great slaughter." He then chased the survivors and killed more of them with
    hailstones. Josh. 10:10,11 (The rest of the world apparently had to muddle along the best it
    could, while the Supreme Being was pre-occupied with the war games of some Semitic tribes. "You
    only have I known . . ." Amos 3:2)

    The five kings of the Amorites after being shut up in a cave and then brought before the
    congregation. Joshua exhorted his fellow Israelites to: "Come near: put your feet upon the necks
    of these kings. Thus shall the Lord do to all your enemies." He then slew all five and hanged
    their bodies. Josh. 10:16-26 The Bible specializes in such horror tales and yet is considered a
    proper book for children, in full confidence of its not being read.

    All the people of Makkedah, and their king hanged, by Joshua. Josh. 10:28

    All the people of Libnah. Not a soul remained; all were delivered to Joshua by the Lord. Josh.
    10:29,30 Joshua and God were agreed upon capital punishment.

    All the people of Lachish, by Joshua. Josh. 10:32

    All the people of Gezer. "And Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none
    remaining." Josh. 10:33 Joshua continues to display the sterling qualities that win favor with
    the Boss.

    All the people of Eglon. "They left none remaining." Josh. 10:34,35 (The Old Testament is a
    mixture of brutal history, poetry, narratives, and philosophy.)

    All the people of Hebron. "All the cities and souls that were therein." Josh. 10:36,37

    All the inhabitants of "the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the
    springs and all their kings; he left none remaining but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as
    the Lord God of Israel commanded." Josh. 10:40 God's communications with Joshua usually took the
    form of military communiques, and Joshua was nothing if not a "clean sweeper."

    All 31 kings and inhabitants of their countries, of the hills and south country and land of Goshen
    and the valley and the plain and the mountain of Israel and the valley of the same from Mt. Halak
    to Mt. Hermon. "As God commanded Moses." Josh. 11:12,16,17 and 12:24 Joshua was happy to do Moses'
    dirty work, but the logistics must have been mind-boggling.

    The inhabitants of Gaza, Askelon, and Ekron, killed by Judah and Caleb. "And the Lord was with
    Judah." Judges 1:18,19

    10,000 Moabites, by the Israelites. ". . . and there escaped not a man." Judges 3:29

    10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites, conquered by Judah and Simeon. Judges 1:4 (Whoever did the body-
    counting always came out with a nice round figure.)

    600 Philistines, slain with an ox goad by Shamgar. Judges 3:31

    All the hosts of Sisera. "And all the hosts of Sisera fell upon the edge of the sword." Judges
    4:16 (Old Testament swords all had edges, no points.)

    120,000 Midianites by Gideon and his 300 men. Judges 8:10

    All but one, who managed to escape, of his 70 step-brothers by Abimelech, the son of one of God's
    favorite torturers, Gideon, in order to gain for himself the throne of Israel. Judges 9:5 Like
    father, like son.

    30 young Philistines by Samson, furious after they guess his riddle. "The spirit of the Lord came
    upon him." Judges 14:19

    Many Philistines with a "great slaughter" by Samson, because they burned his former wife and her
    father to death to avenge Samson, mistakenly thinking to win his approval. Judges 15

    All the lords of the Philistines and a houseful of men and women, including 3,000 on the roof, who
    perished when Samson pulled down the pillars, after calling upon God to restore his strength. "So
    the dead that he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life." Samson's bloody
    score included 1,000 Philistines slain with the jawbone of an ass when "the spirit of the Lord was
    upon him." Judges 15:14 and 16:27,30 (Is this the Holy Spirit that enchants the clergy?)

    25,100 Benjamites, who, with God on their side, fought against their fellow Jews. Judges 20:35

    50,070 people of Bethshemesh, struck dead by God, because a few of them who were working a field
    happened to glance into the Ark carrying the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments. "And the
    people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." I Sam.
    6:19 God kept grave-diggers of the Old Testament working overtime burying innocents.

    Philistines killed under Samuel. "And the hand of the Lord was against the Philistines." I Sam.
    7:13 (Does God really like anybody?)

    Philistines killed by Saul and Jonathan. "For the Lord hath delivered them into the hand of
    Israel." I Sam. 14:12,13,20

    The Ammonites who threaten Jabesh, slain by Saul and the children of Israel "so that two of them
    were not left together." I Sam. 11:11

    All the Amalekites killed by Saul upon God's orders. "Slay both man and woman, infant and
    suckling. . ." I Sam. 15:3,7 (Bottle feeding was definitely recommended.)

    Thousands of Philistines slain by David's armies. "Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his
    ten thousands." I Sam. 18:5,6,7 and 23:5; II Sam.
    5:25 and 8:1

    200 Philistine men, killed by David to obtain their foreskins with which to purchase Saul's
    daughter to be his wife. I Sam. 18:27 (But that's minor surgery!)

    The Geshurites and the Gezrites and the Amalekites slain by David, "leaving neither man nor woman
    alive." I Sam. 27:8,9 (What about the infants and sucklings?)

    The Jebusites, killed by David when he captured Jerusalem from them. ". . . and smiteth the
    Jebusites, and the lame and the blind . . ." II Sam. 5:6,7,8

    The Moabites and 22,000 Syrians by David. "And the Lord preserved David." II Sam. 8:2,5,6,14

    40,000 horsemen of the Syrians, killed by David. II Sam. 10:18 (The horses, too?)

    The children of Ammon, by David's men. II Sam. 11:1

    The Ammonites of Rabbah and other cities, tortured to death by David. "He put them under saws and
    under harrows of iron and made them pass through the brick kiln." II Sam. 12:31 (David, today the
    patriarch most revered by the Jews, was a man who lived by the values and customs of his age.)

    Every man in Edom, killed by Joab and David. I Kings 11:15

    The murderers of one of Saul's sons, sentenced to death by David. "And David commanded his young
    men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged them up over the pool
    . . ." II Sam. 4:7,12 Such deeds are typical of the behavior of God's favorites in the Bible. Even
    though it was customary behavior at the time, surely Almighty God's standards of morality should
    not fluctuate.

    70,000 victims of a pestilence sent by the Lord, because David chose it as his punishment for
    taking a census. II Sam. 24:15

    450 prophets of Baal, killed by Elijah. "And the hand of the Lord was on Elijah." I Kings 18:40,46
    (God's motto was "better dead than mis-led."😉

    100,000 Syrian footmen, slaughtered in one day by the children of Israel. "Thus saith the Lord,
    Because the Syrians have said the Lord is God of the hills, but he is not God of the valleys;
    therefore will I deliver all this great multitude into thine hand . . ." A wall falls on the
    27,000 who are left. I Kings 20:28,29,30 (That certainly got God the valley vote!)

    100 Moabite troops, consumed by fire from heaven called down by Elijah when they question whether
    he is a man of God. II Kings 1 Wholesale murder is proof of Godliness in the Bible.

    42 children eaten by two bears, after Elisha curses them in the name of the Lord for making fun of
    his bald head. II Kings 2:23,24 (Similar nightmarish tragedies happen in fairy tales, but there
    they aren't perpetrated by God.)

    All who died in a 7-year famine sent by the Lord on Samaria. II Kings 8:1

    70 children of King Ahab of Israel, and all the rest of Ahab's "house," after God decreed they
    should all be destroyed. The heads of the children are put into baskets at the gates of the city.
    II Kings 9:8 and 10:1-11 (Baskets full of heads!) All of this was engineered by Jehu, whom God had
    chosen to succeed Ahab to the throne.

    42 children of the king of Judah, by their uncles, at Jehu's command. Elisha is the medium through
    which God communicates his inhuman demands for the annihilation of these entire families, and Jehu
    is all too eager to comply: "Come with me, and see my zeal for the Lord." For all his savagery he
    wins the praise of the Lord: "Thou hast done that which is right in mine eyes and hast done unto
    the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart." II Kings 10:12-17,30 The God of the
    Christian Bible has little regard for the family as such.

    All worshippers of Baal in Samaria and Israel by 80 guards at the direction of Jehu. The victims
    were tricked into attending a Baal-worship service where they were all butchered. "And they smote
    them with the edge of the sword." II Kings 10:18-25

    185,000 Assyrians slain by one angel overnight. Thus the Lord defended Jerusalem. II Kings 19:35
    The Christian conception of an angel puts a halo (much-needed) on the Old Testament variety.

    All the priests of heathen gods in Judah, slain by King Josiah. II Kings
    23:20

    500,000 men of Israel by King Abijah of Judah and his men. "God smote . . . all Israel before
    Abijah and Judah." II Chron. 13:16,17,18 This atrocity was the result of civil war between Israel
    and Judah.

    10,000 Edomites killed by Amaziah's men, who then carried away 10,000 more and "brought them to
    the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they were all broken in
    pieces." II Chron. 25:11,12 Amaziah accepted the Lord's advice on this campaign.

    120,000 Judeans, massacred in one day by King Pekah of Israel, "because they had forsaken the Lord
    God." He also took 200,000 women and children captive as bondmen and bondwomen. These are all
    fellow Jews. II Chron. 28

    500 subjects of a Persian king and the ten sons of Haman who meet death as the result of the
    machinations of Queen Esther on behalf of her Jewish countrymen. Haman suffers the same fate.
    Esther's uncle Mordecai and the other Jews throughout the kingdom had refused to abandon their
    Mosaic law. Esther 3:5,8 and 7:10 and 9:1-14

    75,000 Persian subjects of King Ahasuerus by the Jews, urged on by Esther and Mordecai. Esther
    9:16 Esther's part in this is celebrated by a festive Jewish holiday, in which she is honored for
    saving her fellow Jews. It is called Purim.

    Job's children and servants by God in a contest with Satan over Job's loyalty to God. Job 1:13-19

    It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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    Mass Killings Ordered, Committed, Or Approved By God The entire population of the earth at the
    time of Noah, except for eight survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was
    destroyed which


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    upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping


    things,

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    and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and


    Noah

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    only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark." Gen. 7:23

    Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah, and of the surrounding plain, by "brimstone and fire
    from the Lord out of heaven." Gen. 19:24 Lot's


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    fled.

    All the first-born of every family in Egypt, including children of those


    in

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    the dungeons and the successor to the throne of Egypt's Pharaoh, by God


    on

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    the first Passover night. Ex. 12:29

    All the hosts of Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots, who


    drown

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    in the Red Sea while pursuing the Israelites. ". . . and the Lord


    overthrew

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    the Egyptians in the midst of the sea." Ex. 14:27,28

    Victims who perish in the conquest of seven nations in Canaan by the


    Jews

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    under God's guidance so that the Jews can occupy their lands as God had promised Abraham. "When
    the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast
    out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the
    Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites,


    seven

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    nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before
    thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy


    them;

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    thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them." Deut.
    7:1,2

    Amalek and his people, by the edge of the sword. "Because the Lord hath sworn that the Lord will
    have war with Amalek from generation to generation." As long as Aaron helped Moses to hold up
    his hands, the Israelites prevailed. Ex. 17:11,16 At times of crisis, the Lord often


    waxed

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    whimsical.

    3,000 Israelites, massacred by their Levite tribe at the command of the


    Lord

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    for worshipping the golden calf. "Take every man his sword by his side,


    and

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    go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man


    his

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    brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor." Ex.


    32:27

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    These were the orders of a God who would brook no disloyalty, a


    self-styled

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    "jealous" God.

    Rulers of Israel, 11 in number, who refused to invade the Promised Land after they had spied on
    it for 40 days. God kills them with a plague.


    Num.

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    14:37

    250 Levite princes of the Jews who challenged the leadership of Moses.


    God

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    would have killed the whole congregation, if Moses hadn't pointed out


    the

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    injustice of such a course of action. Owing to Moses's plea for sanity,


    the

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    Lord repented somewhat and re-fashioned the punishment. Letting his compassion prevail, he
    proceeded to open up the earth and bury alive


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    wives, sons, and little children" of two of the princes, then sent a


    fire

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    that consumed the remaining princes. The rest of the congregation,


    properly

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    terrified, next made a covering for the altar out of their incense


    braziers.

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    Num. 16:1-40 God was finally mollified.

    14,700 Jews in a plague, because they rebelled against Moses after the killing of the 250
    princes. At last Aaron makes atonement with incense


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    stop the plague. Num. 16:41-49

    The Canaanites at Hormah, utterly destroyed by the Lord at the request


    of

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    the Jews. Num. 21:3

    The Amorites at Heshbon. Israel "took all these cities." Moses summed up


    the

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    slaughter: "We . . . utterly destroyed the men and the women and the


    little

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    ones." Num. 21:25 and Deut. 2:34

    All the sons and subjects of Og, about whom the Lord said to Moses:


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    him (the king of Bashan) not, for I have delivered him into thy hand."


    None

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    was left alive. Num. 21:34,35

    24,000 Israelites who co-habited with Moabite women and worshipped Baal. "And the Lord said unto
    Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and


    hang

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    them up before the Lord against the sun . . ." Num. 25:4,9

    All the males and kings of the Midianites, because they worshipped


    idols,

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    and all their wives and male children. "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Vex the
    Midianites, and smite them. Num. 25:16,17 Num. 31:7,8

    The subjects of two kingdoms on the east side of the Jordan, in order


    that

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    Reuben and Gad might seize these realms for their own as a gift from


    God.

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    Num. 32

    The Ammonites, decimated by the Lord so that Lot might possess their


    land.

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    Deut. 2:19-21

    The Horims, slain by God in order that Esau might acquire their land.


    Deut.

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    2:22

    All the citizens of Jericho, except for a prostitute and her family.


    "And

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    they utterly destroyed all in the city, man and woman, young and old,


    and ox

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    . . . with the edge of the sword." Josh. 6 "They" make a grisly game of


    it,

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    using the superstitious number "7" popular in the Bible, trumpet blasts,


    and

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    marches around the doomed city. Joshua competes with Moses, the leader


    he

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    replaced, for title of No. 1 Murderer (God's hit man) of the Old


    Testament,

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    as he follows God's orders.

    Men of Ai, and the women and children, 12,000 in all (and the city


    burned),

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    in a treacherous ambush conceived and directed by God. Joshua and his


    men

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    smote them with the "edge of the sword." With the usual biblical hocus-pocus, Joshua held out
    his spear at arm's length until all the inhabitants were killed, then built an altar and
    sacrificed to God to celebrate the victory. (God always has demanded recognition of his
    beneficence!) Joshua hanged the king of Ai on a tree. Josh. 8:1-30


    (Jesus

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    was also to be "hanged on a tree." The precedent builds.)

    The armies of five kings of the Amorites, who beseiged Gibeon. "And the


    Lord

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    . . . slew them with a great slaughter." He then chased the survivors


    and

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    killed more of them with hailstones. Josh. 10:10,11 (The rest of the


    world

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    apparently had to muddle along the best it could, while the Supreme


    Being

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    was pre-occupied with the war games of some Semitic tribes. "You only


    have I

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    known . . ." Amos 3:2)

    The five kings of the Amorites after being shut up in a cave and then brought before the
    congregation. Joshua exhorted his fellow Israelites


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    "Come near: put your feet upon the necks of these kings. Thus shall the


    Lord

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    do to all your enemies." He then slew all five and hanged their bodies. Josh. 10:16-26 The Bible
    specializes in such horror tales and yet is considered a proper book for children, in full
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    read.

    All the people of Makkedah, and their king hanged, by Joshua. Josh.


    33:28

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    All the people of Libnah. Not a soul remained; all were delivered to


    Joshua

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    by the Lord. Josh. 10:29,30 Joshua and God were agreed upon capital punishment.

    All the people of Lachish, by Joshua. Josh. 10:32

    All the people of Gezer. "And Joshua smote him and his people, until he


    had

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    left him none remaining." Josh. 10:33 Joshua continues to display the sterling qualities that
    win favor with the Boss.

    All the people of Eglon. "They left none remaining." Josh. 10:34,35 (The


    Old

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    Testament is a mixture of brutal history, poetry, narratives, and philosophy.)

    All the people of Hebron. "All the cities and souls that were therein." Josh. 10:36,37

    All the inhabitants of "the country of the hills, and of the south, and


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    the vale, and of the springs and all their kings; he left none remaining


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    utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel


    commanded."

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    Josh. 10:40 God's communications with Joshua usually took the form of military communiques, and
    Joshua was nothing if not a "clean sweeper."

    All 31 kings and inhabitants of their countries, of the hills and south country and land of
    Goshen and the valley and the plain and the mountain


    of

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    Israel and the valley of the same from Mt. Halak to Mt. Hermon. "As God commanded Moses." Josh.
    11:12,16,17 and 12:24 Joshua was happy to do


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    dirty work, but the logistics must have been mind-boggling.

    The inhabitants of Gaza, Askelon, and Ekron, killed by Judah and Caleb.


    "And

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    the Lord was with Judah." Judges 1:18,19

    10,000 Moabites, by the Israelites. ". . . and there escaped not a man." Judges 3:29

    10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites, conquered by Judah and Simeon. Judges


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    (Whoever did the body-counting always came out with a nice round


    figure.)

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    600 Philistines, slain with an ox goad by Shamgar. Judges 3:31

    All the hosts of Sisera. "And all the hosts of Sisera fell upon the edge


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    the sword." Judges 4:16 (Old Testament swords all had edges, no points.)

    120,000 Midianites by Gideon and his 300 men. Judges 8:10

    All but one, who managed to escape, of his 70 step-brothers by


    Abimelech,

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    the son of one of God's favorite torturers, Gideon, in order to gain for himself the throne of
    Israel. Judges 9:5 Like father, like son.

    30 young Philistines by Samson, furious after they guess his riddle.


    "The

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    spirit of the Lord came upon him." Judges 14:19

    Many Philistines with a "great slaughter" by Samson, because they burned


    his

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    former wife and her father to death to avenge Samson, mistakenly


    thinking to

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    win his approval. Judges 15

    All the lords of the Philistines and a houseful of men and women,


    including

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    3,000 on the roof, who perished when Samson pulled down the pillars,


    after

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    calling upon God to restore his strength. "So the dead that he slew at


    his

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    death were more than they which he slew in his life." Samson's bloody


    score

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    included 1,000 Philistines slain with the jawbone of an ass when "the


    spirit

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    of the Lord was upon him." Judges 15:14 and 16:27,30 (Is this the Holy Spirit that enchants the
    clergy?)

    25,100 Benjamites, who, with God on their side, fought against their


    fellow

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    Jews. Judges 20:35

    50,070 people of Bethshemesh, struck dead by God, because a few of them


    who

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    were working a field happened to glance into the Ark carrying the stone tablets of the Ten
    Commandments. "And the people lamented, because the


    Lord

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    had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." I Sam. 6:19 God


    kept

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    grave-diggers of the Old Testament working overtime burying innocents.

    Philistines killed under Samuel. "And the hand of the Lord was against


    the

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    Philistines." I Sam. 7:13 (Does God really like anybody?)

    Philistines killed by Saul and Jonathan. "For the Lord hath delivered


    them

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    into the hand of Israel." I Sam. 14:12,13,20

    The Ammonites who threaten Jabesh, slain by Saul and the children of


    Israel

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    "so that two of them were not left together." I Sam. 11:11

    All the Amalekites killed by Saul upon God's orders. "Slay both man and woman, infant and
    suckling. . ." I Sam. 15:3,7 (Bottle feeding was definitely recommended.)

    Thousands of Philistines slain by David's armies. "Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his
    ten thousands." I Sam. 18:5,6,7 and 23:5; II


    Sam.

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    5:25 and 8:1

    200 Philistine men, killed by David to obtain their foreskins with which


    to

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    purchase Saul's daughter to be his wife. I Sam. 18:27 (But that's minor surgery!)

    The Geshurites and the Gezrites and the Amalekites slain by David,


    "leaving

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    neither man nor woman alive." I Sam. 27:8,9 (What about the infants and sucklings?)

    The Jebusites, killed by David when he captured Jerusalem from them. ".


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    and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind . . ." II Sam.


    5:6,7,8

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    The Moabites and 22,000 Syrians by David. "And the Lord preserved


    David." II

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    Sam. 8:2,5,6,14

    40,000 horsemen of the Syrians, killed by David. II Sam. 10:18 (The


    horses,

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    too?)

    The children of Ammon, by David's men. II Sam. 11:1

    The Ammonites of Rabbah and other cities, tortured to death by David.


    "He

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    put them under saws and under harrows of iron and made them pass through


    the

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    brick kiln." II Sam. 12:31 (David, today the patriarch most revered by


    the

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    Jews, was a man who lived by the values and customs of his age.)

    Every man in Edom, killed by Joab and David. I Kings 11:15

    The murderers of one of Saul's sons, sentenced to death by David. "And


    David

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    commanded his young men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged
    them up over the pool . . ." II Sam. 4:7,12 Such deeds are typical of the behavior of God's
    favorites in the Bible. Even though it was customary behavior at the time, surely Almighty God's
    standards of morality should not fluctuate.

    70,000 victims of a pestilence sent by the Lord, because David chose it


    as

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    his punishment for taking a census. II Sam. 24:15

    450 prophets of Baal, killed by Elijah. "And the hand of the Lord was on Elijah." I Kings
    18:40,46 (God's motto was "better dead than mis-led."😉

    100,000 Syrian footmen, slaughtered in one day by the children of


    Israel.

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    "Thus saith the Lord, Because the Syrians have said the Lord is God of


    the

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    hills, but he is not God of the valleys; therefore will I deliver all


    this

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    great multitude into thine hand . . ." A wall falls on the 27,000 who


    are

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    left. I Kings 20:28,29,30 (That certainly got God the valley vote!)

    100 Moabite troops, consumed by fire from heaven called down by Elijah


    when

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    they question whether he is a man of God. II Kings 1 Wholesale murder is proof of Godliness in
    the Bible.

    42 children eaten by two bears, after Elisha curses them in the name of


    the

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    Lord for making fun of his bald head. II Kings 2:23,24 (Similar


    nightmarish

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    tragedies happen in fairy tales, but there they aren't perpetrated by


    God.)

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    All who died in a 7-year famine sent by the Lord on Samaria. II Kings


    6:1

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    70 children of King Ahab of Israel, and all the rest of Ahab's "house," after God decreed they
    should all be destroyed. The heads of the


    children

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    are put into baskets at the gates of the city. II Kings 9:8 and 10:1-11 (Baskets full of heads!)
    All of this was engineered by Jehu, whom God


    had

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    chosen to succeed Ahab to the throne.

    42 children of the king of Judah, by their uncles, at Jehu's command.


    Elisha

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    is the medium through which God communicates his inhuman demands for the annihilation of these
    entire families, and Jehu is all too eager to


    comply:

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    "Come with me, and see my zeal for the Lord." For all his savagery he


    wins

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    the praise of the Lord: "Thou hast done that which is right in mine eyes


    and

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    hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine


    heart."

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    II Kings 10:12-17,30 The God of the Christian Bible has little regard


    for

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    the family as such.

    All worshippers of Baal in Samaria and Israel by 80 guards at the


    direction

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    of Jehu. The victims were tricked into attending a Baal-worship service where they were all
    butchered. "And they smote them with the edge of the sword." II Kings 10:18-25

    185,000 Assyrians slain by one angel overnight. Thus the Lord defended Jerusalem. II Kings 19:35
    The Christian conception of an angel puts a


    halo

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    (much-needed) on the Old Testament variety.

    All the priests of heathen gods in Judah, slain by King Josiah. II Kings
    23:20

    500,000 men of Israel by King Abijah of Judah and his men. "God smote .


    . .

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    all Israel before Abijah and Judah." II Chron. 13:16,17,18 This atrocity


    was

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    the result of civil war between Israel and Judah.

    10,000 Edomites killed by Amaziah's men, who then carried away 10,000


    more

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    and "brought them to the top of the rock, and cast them down from the


    top of

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    the rock, that they were all broken in pieces." II Chron. 25:11,12


    Amaziah

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    accepted the Lord's advice on this campaign.

    120,000 Judeans, massacred in one day by King Pekah of Israel, "because


    they

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    had forsaken the Lord God." He also took 200,000 women and children


    captive

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    as bondmen and bondwomen. These are all fellow Jews. II Chron. 28

    500 subjects of a Persian king and the ten sons of Haman who meet death


    as

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    the result of the machinations of Queen Esther on behalf of her Jewish countrymen. Haman suffers
    the same fate. Esther's uncle Mordecai and the other Jews throughout the kingdom had refused to
    abandon their Mosaic


    law.

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    Esther 3:5,8 and 7:10 and 9:1-14

    75,000 Persian subjects of King Ahasuerus by the Jews, urged on by


    Esther

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    and Mordecai. Esther 9:16 Esther's part in this is celebrated by a


    festive

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    Jewish holiday, in which she is honored for saving her fellow Jews. It


    is

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    called Purim.

    Job's children and servants by God in a contest with Satan over Job's loyalty to God. Job
    1:13-19

    It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.

    I'm glad you agree that God murderer.

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    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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    snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>

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    It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.


    <Sic>

    So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for their own good of course.

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    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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    snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>

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    It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.


    <Sic>

    So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for their own good of course.

    Sorry you don't like it, neighbor.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  6. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>

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    It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.


    <Sic>

    So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for


    their

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    own good of course.

    Sorry you don't like it, neighbor.


    How can anyone like a murderer?

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    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>

    > It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.
    <Sic>

    So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for


    their

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    own good of course.

    Sorry you don't like it, neighbor.

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    How can anyone like a murderer?

    Mr. Smoke,

    Have you forgotten that because He made us mortal, He has killed EVERYONE who has ever lived or will
    live? It's just a small matter of time as to just how long each life's span might be. I mean REALLY
    small in the galactic sense. Man, what a rip-off. Doesn't it kinda just make you want to turn in
    your life early, Mr. Smoke? Like, who cares anyway?

    This is where the sceptical argument ultimately leads - down a rat hole. But I believe that God
    didn't just make us mortal, He also made an immortal part - the soul.....and if we choose to do
    so, that immortal part can live forever with God. I'm not sure what happens to the sceptics. Maybe
    they just get what they believe - absolutely nothing. But I don't think it's reasonable to blame
    God for this.

    John

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    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>

    > It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to destroy everything.
    <Sic>

    So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for


    their

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    own good of course.

    Sorry you don't like it, neighbor.


    How can anyone like a murderer?

    Is it your judgement that God, almighty Creator of the universe, is a murderer?

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    wholey_smoke wrote:

    > >snip Proof that God is a mass murderer>
    >
    > > It is well within God's right as the Creator of everything to


    destroy

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    > > everything.
    > <Sic>
    >
    > So those who would reject him must be converted or killed? er.. for


    their

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    > own good of course.

    Sorry you don't like it, neighbor.

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    How can anyone like a murderer?

    Mr. Smoke,

    Have you forgotten that because He made us mortal, He has killed EVERYONE who has ever lived or
    will live?

    So he is responsible for your tragic loss then.

    It's just a small matter of

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    time as to just how long each life's span might be. I mean REALLY small in the galactic sense.
    Man, what a rip-off. Doesn't it kinda just make you want to turn in your life early, Mr. Smoke?
    Like, who cares anyway?

    Well certainly not you John, "like who cares anyway"?

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    This is where the sceptical argument ultimately leads - down a rat hole. But I believe that God
    didn't just make us mortal, He also made an immortal part - the soul.....and if we choose to do
    so, that immortal part can live forever with God. I'm not sure what happens to the sceptics. Maybe
    they just get what they believe - absolutely nothing. But I don't think it's reasonable to blame
    God for this.

    John


    You have nothing but a blind belief based on ancient text.

    "Religion teaches the dangerous nonsense that death is not the end".
    . . . (Richard Dawkins)

  10. "wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    What's troubling you that you can possibly think you may have done that is beyond God's grace? You
    cannot disprove His existence any more than the most brilliant minds of the centuries before you
    have. God already knows what is in your heart and He wants you to overcome it. Understand the true
    meaning of Jesus' sacrifice by coming to know His way through the Word and He will take away your
    sin. Hear Him through the Word and let it go because you have been forgiven of it all.

    "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son."
    Revelation 21:7

    Carol T

  11. "wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Religion teaches the dangerous nonsense that death is not the end".
    . . . (Richard Dawkins)

    Richard Dawkins will be as Paul.

    Carol T

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    "wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    What's troubling you that you can possibly think you may have done that is beyond God's grace? You
    cannot disprove His existence any more than the most brilliant minds of the centuries before you
    have. God already knows what is in your heart and He wants you to overcome it. Understand the true
    meaning of Jesus' sacrifice by coming to know His way through the Word and He will take away your
    sin. Hear Him through the Word and let it go because you have been forgiven of it all.

    Why do you think I hate religion so much, do you think I woke up one morning and decided to
    persecute the bible just for the fun of it. John turned to religion because of what happened to him,
    I was already there and turned away. He made his choice, I made mine. He found comfort in the bible,
    I found comfort in and strenght in anger. You say he is a loving compassionate God, I say just the
    oposite. Am I bitter, damn right I am, and all the religious ranting in the world will not change my
    mind. So save your prayers and bible quotes for someone who want's it. "See me as you may, it is of
    no consequence to me"

    .....enter stage left, Andrew and Mu....

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    "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son."
    Revelation 21:7

    Carol T

  13. "wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    >>>>> Why do you think I hate religion so much, do you think I woke


    up one morning and decided to persecute the bible just for the fun of it.<<<<<<<<<<<

    I think that you woke up hurting one morning and had to be angry at God and have answers from Him,
    but not necessarily from 'religion'. You will not be the first or the last. Hear the calls in Psalm
    38 as the hurt man seeks help for his pains, Psalm 6 which cries out for lost sleep, or in 13 as
    there is a call for _why_? This is the nature of man told through the Psalms.

    There is compassion and comfort for all men and every emotion through The Word, it's OK to be angry
    and hurt, these feelings have their time. It is written for all who hear it, for _you_ personally,
    not as 'religion' but as your life and way to salvation.

    Your eyes fall on The Word, you have not turned your back on God, you have not found your body yet.

    Carol T

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