massage and cancer

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from her
attending physicians. There are many things to consider.
Massage can contribute to further metastases of oncogenes
and accelerate the progression of the cancer. On the other
hand if she is considered to be headed into the status of
palliative( what is her prognosis?), then it is all about
quality of life and pain management, something that massage
can play a great part in. If unsure at all, always err on
the side of caution and get permission from your client to
either contact her doctor or have her discuss massage with
them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from a MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in the
hip joint that was so deteriorated they can't believe she
was able to walk. After that heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and blue.
Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do back and
neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be nice....

Tiffany

Tiffany,

Why don't you get your clients permission to ask her doctor
if it's ok to perform massage on his patient? If her bones
are so fragile, and she's getting chemo and or radiation
therapy, maybe there's information the MD needs to provide
that you won't come across in your library research.

Ben

Tiffany said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from a MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last week
she was diagnosed with bone cancer. She just had surgery
to put a rod in the hip joint that was so deteriorated
they can't believe she was able to walk. After that heals,
they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and blue.
Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do back and
neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be nice....

Tiffany

Whatever you do, get MD's permission in writing first.

Some say massage and Ca are good and some say it causes
metastasis.

You can do light acupressure, either on hands, head and
feet or all over body, Must be light, especially because
of bone Ca.

........with doc's permission to keep you safe. LK

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in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from a MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in the
hip joint that was so deteriorated they can't believe she
was able to walk. After that heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and blue.
Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do back and
neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be nice....

Tiffany

I would not consider doing massage without doctor consent,
as in any other serious medical condition.

I did actually come across a very informative article by the
amta. I will find it again and post it for anyone who might
be interested.

I had the luck to be able to listen to Jeffrey Yuen speak on
Traditional Chinese Medicine and treating Cancer. I see what
I can/can not do using my Asian Bodytherapy training, but
this client is a massage client.

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Tiffany,

Why don't you get your clients permission to ask her
doctor if it's ok to perform massage on his patient? If
her bones are so fragile, and she's getting chemo and or
radiation therapy, maybe there's information the MD needs
to provide that you won't come across in your library

research.

Quoted message said:

Ben

Tiffany said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in
the hip joint

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was so deteriorated they can't believe she was able to
walk. After that heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be

highly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sensitive, swollen, black and blue. Even with the bone
cancer, is it ok

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just do back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be
nice....

Tiffany

Yes, of course I would get permission and speak with the MD,
as with any serious medical condition. Before speaking with
the MD though, I would like to have some knowledge and
understanding so I know what he is talking of.

T "mossrite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from
her attending physicians.

There

Quoted message said:

are many things to consider. Massage can contribute to
further metastases

of

Quoted message said:

oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the cancer. On
the other hand

if

Quoted message said:

she is considered to be headed into the status of
palliative( what is her prognosis?), then it is all about
quality of life and pain management, something that
massage can play a great part in. If unsure at all, always
err on the side of caution and get permission

from

Quoted message said:

your client to either contact her doctor or have her
discuss massage with them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in
the hip joint

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was so deteriorated they can't believe she was able to
walk. After that heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be

highly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sensitive, swollen, black and blue. Even with the bone
cancer, is it ok

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just do back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be
nice....

Tiffany

Sorry .. From your original posting I could not assume that
"of course" you would consult with the physician. I am
suggesting that it be determined if your client is
approaching "palliative state" in which a lot of the rules
of treatment, contraindications to treatment change. The
study and understanding, treatment considerations of
oncology is HUGE and you are not going to get any "tips" in
a newsgroup on the subject. I tried to be of help but it
seems that I wasn't. Good luck.

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Quoted message said:

Yes, of course I would get permission and speak with the
MD, as with any serious medical condition. Before speaking
with the MD though, I would

like

Quoted message said:

to have some knowledge and understanding so I know what he
is talking of.

T "mossrite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from
her attending physicians.

There

Quoted message said:

are many things to consider. Massage can contribute to
further

metastases

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the cancer.
On the other

hand

Quoted message said:

if

Quoted message said:

she is considered to be headed into the status of
palliative( what is

her

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

prognosis?), then it is all about quality of life and
pain management, something that massage can play a great
part in. If unsure at all, always err on the side of
caution and get permission

from

Quoted message said:

your client to either contact her doctor or have her
discuss massage

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but
like perspective

from

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in
the hip joint

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was so deteriorated they can't believe she was able to
walk. After

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area
is going to be

highly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sensitive, swollen, black and blue. Even with the bone
cancer, is it

ok

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just do back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's would
be nice....

Tiffany

oh no, any post on the subject helps. I say of course
because most of us here are professional therapists and
already know to consult the MD.

It is a HUGE subject, isn't it. I will keep reading.

Thanks.

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Quoted message said:

Sorry .. From your original posting I could not assume
that "of course" you would consult with the physician. I
am suggesting that it be determined if your client is
approaching "palliative state" in which a lot of the rules
of treatment, contraindications to treatment change. The
study and understanding, treatment considerations of
oncology is HUGE and you are not going to get any "tips"
in a newsgroup on the subject. I tried to be of help but
it seems that I wasn't. Good luck.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yes, of course I would get permission and speak with the
MD, as with any serious medical condition. Before
speaking with the MD though, I would

like

Quoted message said:

to have some knowledge and understanding so I know what
he is talking

of.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

T "mossrite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission
from her attending physicians.

There

Quoted message said:

are many things to consider. Massage can contribute to
further

metastases

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the
cancer. On the other

hand

Quoted message said:

if

Quoted message said:

she is considered to be headed into the status of
palliative( what is

her

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

prognosis?), then it is all about quality of life and
pain management, something that massage can play a
great part in. If unsure at all, always err on the
side of caution and get permission

from

Quoted message said:

your client to either contact her doctor or have her
discuss massage

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> I am heading off to the library to do research but
> like perspective

from

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

> MT's point of view.
>
> I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
> week she was
diagnosed
> with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod
> in the hip joint

that

Quoted message said:

> was so deteriorated they can't believe she was able
> to walk. After

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> heals, they will start chemo.
>
> Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area
> is going to be

highly

Quoted message said:

> sensitive, swollen, black and blue. Even with the
> bone cancer, is it

ok

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

> just do back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's
> would be nice....
>
> Tiffany
>
>

< Isay of course because most of us here are professional
therapists and already know to consult the MD.>

Just a note........

I used to grade tests for AMTA membership admission and
their official answer to the question, "Is it okay to
massage people with cancer?" was "Yes".

LK

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good, but good for something; that ye may fulfill that
purpose for which ye have entered this experience. Edgar
Cayce Reading 2030-1

Tiffany, several years ago I had a lady that had multiple
mets, was on chemo, and the doctor said "No" to massage.
When I showed him how I would be using Bowen Therapy, he
changed his stance and assured the patient that it was okay
for me to do it, but none others.

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oh no, any post on the subject helps. I say of course
because most of us here are professional therapists and
already know to consult the MD.

It is a HUGE subject, isn't it. I will keep reading.

Thanks.

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Quoted message said:

Sorry .. From your original posting I could not assume
that "of course" you would consult with the physician. I
am suggesting that it be determined if your client is
approaching "palliative state" in which a lot of the
rules of treatment, contraindications to treatment
change. The study and understanding, treatment
considerations of oncology is

HUGE

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and you are not going to get any "tips" in a newsgroup
on the subject. I tried to be of help but it seems that
I wasn't. Good luck.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yes, of course I would get permission and speak with
the MD, as with

any

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

serious medical condition. Before speaking with the MD
though, I would

like

Quoted message said:

to have some knowledge and understanding so I know
what he is talking

of.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

T "mossrite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission
> from her attending

physicians.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

There
> are many things to consider. Massage can contribute
> to further

metastases

Quoted message said:

of
> oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the
> cancer. On the other

hand

Quoted message said:

if
> she is considered to be headed into the status of
> palliative( what

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

her

Quoted message said:

> prognosis?), then it is all about quality of life
> and pain

management,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> something that massage can play a great part in. If
> unsure at all, always err on the side of caution and
> get

permission

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from
> your client to either contact her doctor or have her
> discuss massage

with

Quoted message said:

> them first.
>
>
> "Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
> > I am heading off to the library to do research but
> > like

perspective

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from

Quoted message said:

a
> > MT's point of view.
> >
> > I have a client who is a breast cancer
> > survivor.Last week she was
> diagnosed
> > with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a
> > rod in the hip

joint

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that
> > was so deteriorated they can't believe she was
> > able to walk. After

that

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> > heals, they will start chemo.
> >
> > Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip
> > area is going to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

highly
> > sensitive, swollen, black and blue. Even with the
> > bone cancer, is

it

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Quoted message said:

ok

Quoted message said:

to
> > just do back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's
> > would be nice....
> >
> > Tiffany
> >
> >
>
>

Hello.

I'm actually a beginner in massage (I have done
californian massage for the last 2 years) and a complete
beginner regarding madical notions but this thread
interests me in case I want to help a friend who might
suffer from liver cancer.

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

Many thanks and sorry for being ignorant on these subjects.

mossrite said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from
her attending physicians. There are many things to
consider. Massage can contribute to further metastases of
oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the cancer. On
the other hand if she is considered to be headed into the
status of palliative( what is her prognosis?), then it is
all about quality of life and pain management, something
that massage can play a great part in. If unsure at all,
always err on the side of caution and get permission from
your client to either contact her doctor or have her
discuss massage with them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from a MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in the
hip joint that was so deteriorated they can't believe she
was able to walk. After that heals, they will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and blue.
Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do back and
neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be nice....

Tiffany

1. oncogenes - A gene that causes normal cells to change
into cancerous tumor cells
2. metastases - The spreading of a disease to another part
of the body

Manual manipulation (massage) of tissues is believed to
increase the flow, transit rate of cancerous cells
throughout the lymph system (spread em around!).

Quoted message said:

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

That's a bit worrying. If I understand you correctly, we
could increase the flow of cancerous cells of people who
haven't been yet diagnosed with cancer. Also, it means that
asking if the person about to be massaged has been diagnosed
should be part of the questions asked before any massage.

Any other medical condition you could think of where massage
could be a potential problem ? Is there any concern with HIV
for example ?

Many thanks.

mossrite said:

1. oncogenes - A gene that causes normal cells to change
into cancerous tumor cells
2. metastases - The spreading of a disease to another part
of the body

Manual manipulation (massage) of tissues is believed to
increase the flow, transit rate of cancerous cells
throughout the lymph system (spread em around!).

Quoted message said:

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

Headlines: Massage causes cancer! Massage Therapists
guilty of increasing cancer rate among clients! Massage
Spreads Cancer!

Given the premises portrayed in this ng, massage should be
stopped, even outlawed. You can never know which client has
cancer and asking them won't help because they might be
unaware of any early stages of cancer.

So if the premises are true that massage can spread cancer,
then it would be irresponsible to perform massage.

What mainstream peer-reviewed science-based medical
literature exists supporting the premise that massage can
spread cancer?

Ben

mossrite said:

1. oncogenes - A gene that causes normal cells to change
into cancerous tumor cells
2. metastases - The spreading of a disease to another part
of the body

Manual manipulation (massage) of tissues is believed to
increase the flow, transit rate of cancerous cells
throughout the lymph system (spread em around!).

Quoted message said:

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

Alain Your questions are good ones. For this reason, persons
wishing to go into the field of massage therapy are required
to attend a school/college to be educated in these areas.
The massage therapy diploma program can go up to three years
full time college in some areas and that will give you an
"entry level" education into the profession. Pathology and
treatment considerations are only one part of the overall
education of the potential massage therapist. The question
you have posed now is absolutely huge and necessitates hours
spent in classroom study. If you are as interested as you
appear to be, why not seek out proper education at a
school/college in your area. Best of luck!

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That's a bit worrying. If I understand you correctly, we
could increase the flow of cancerous cells of people who
haven't been yet diagnosed with cancer. Also, it means
that asking if the person about to be massaged has been
diagnosed should be part of the questions asked before any
massage.

Any other medical condition you could think of where
massage could be a potential problem ? Is there any
concern with HIV for example ?

Many thanks.

mossrite said:

1. oncogenes - A gene that causes normal cells to change
into cancerous tumor cells
2. metastases - The spreading of a disease to another
part of the body

Manual manipulation (massage) of tissues is believed to
increase the

flow,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

transit rate of cancerous cells throughout the lymph
system (spread em around!).

Quoted message said:

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

What is californian massage? Does it involve rocks?

Ben

P.S., Alain, your questions are good ones; I see they
already been answered.

Alain said:

Hello.

I'm actually a beginner in massage (I have done
californian massage for the last 2 years) and a complete
beginner regarding madical notions but this thread
interests me in case I want to help a friend who might
suffer from liver cancer.

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

Many thanks and sorry for being ignorant on these
subjects.

mossrite said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from
her attending physicians. There are many things to
consider. Massage can contribute to further metastases of
oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the cancer.
On the other hand if she is considered to be headed into
the status of palliative( what is her prognosis?), then
it is all about quality of life and pain management,
something that massage can play a great part in. If
unsure at all, always err on the side of caution and get
permission from your client to either contact her doctor
or have her discuss massage with them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am heading off to the library to do research but like
perspective from a MT's point of view.

I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
week she was

diagnosed

Quoted message said:

with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in
the hip joint that was so deteriorated they can't
believe she was able to walk. After that heals, they
will start chemo.

Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area is
going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and blue.
Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do back and
neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be nice....

Tiffany

I would suggest that anyone interested go to amtamassage.org
and look for an article written some time ago called Cancer
and Massage.

My client that prompted me to start this thread, she is
currently recovering from her hip surgery. In a week or 2
she may start her radiation therapy. That will be intense, 5
days/week.

Her doctor was totally fine with her receiving massage,
minus work on the incision sites. I did not massage the legs
as there is a risk of dvt. Probably be over careful but most
her work was needed upper body anyways. I did do feet also.
Can't skip the feet.

I will continue to see her as often as she likes and she
will continue checking with the doctors for approval. We
discussed the effects of the radiation, ect. She has already
been through this once.

Massage definitely should not be stopped. As you said, if
the case is massage spreads cancer and one doesn't know they
have cancer until there are extreme symptoms, we could be
starting an epidemic.

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Quoted message said:

Headlines: Massage causes cancer! Massage Therapists
guilty of increasing cancer rate among clients! Massage
Spreads Cancer!

Given the premises portrayed in this ng, massage should be
stopped, even outlawed. You can never know which client
has cancer and asking them won't help because they might
be unaware of any early stages of cancer.

So if the premises are true that massage can spread
cancer, then it would be irresponsible to perform massage.

What mainstream peer-reviewed science-based medical
literature exists supporting the premise that massage can
spread cancer?

Ben

mossrite said:

1. oncogenes - A gene that causes normal cells to change
into cancerous tumor cells
2. metastases - The spreading of a disease to another
part of the body

Manual manipulation (massage) of tissues is believed to
increase the

flow,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

transit rate of cancerous cells throughout the lymph
system (spread em around!).

Quoted message said:

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

no... voodoo! 🙂

T "Ben Dover" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What is californian massage? Does it involve rocks?

Ben

P.S., Alain, your questions are good ones; I see they
already been

answered.

Quoted message said:

Alain said:

Hello.

I'm actually a beginner in massage (I have done
californian massage for the last 2 years) and a complete
beginner regarding madical notions but this thread
interests me in case I want to help a friend who might
suffer from liver cancer.

What are metastases and oncogenes ?

How could massage increase them ?

Many thanks and sorry for being ignorant on these
subjects.

mossrite said:

Hi Tiffany I would suggest that you get permission from
her attending physicians. There are many things to
consider. Massage can contribute to further metastases
of oncogenes and accelerate the progression of the
cancer. On the other hand if she is considered to be
headed into the status of palliative( what is

her

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

prognosis?), then it is all about quality of life and
pain management, something that massage can play a
great part in. If unsure at all, always err on the side
of caution and get permission from your client to
either contact her doctor or have her discuss massage

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them first.

"Tiffany" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

> I am heading off to the library to do research but
> like perspective from a MT's point of view.
>
> I have a client who is a breast cancer survivor.Last
> week she was

diagnosed

> with bone cancer. She just had surgery to put a rod in
> the hip joint that was so deteriorated they can't
> believe she was able to walk. After

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> heals, they will start chemo.
>
> Can I do massage of any kind? Obviously the hip area
> is going to be highly sensitive, swollen, black and
> blue. Even with the bone cancer, is it ok to just do
> back and neck massage, feet? Any idea's would be
> nice....
>
> Tiffany
>
>

Just received a spa magazine lneonline.comlneonline.comOpen ↗
that cites a study saying that massage increases cancer
fighting cells.

Can't find the article on the site but it's in the magazine
and you can order a free copy, according to the page. LK

As it happens, the cancer/massage study is old
news........ LK

PHILADELPHIA (November 9, 1998) -- A new study released
this month adds to the body of evidence that massage
therapy bolsters immune function in people who are healthy
as well as those who are fighting disease. The finding was
announced November 1, 1998 at the annual meeting of the
American Massage Therapy Association ...... The rest is
at: fccc.eduMassage Therapy Study 11Open ↗
09-1998.html
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< Just received a spa magazine lneonline.comlneonline.comOpen ↗
that cites a study saying that massage increases cancer
fighting cells. Can't find the article on the site but it's
in the magazine and you can order a free copy, according to
the page. LK> icdc.comchiropractorphilOpen ↗
adelphia803.htm