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  1. Following intensive lobbying (well I know a few of us wrote to him) Matt
    Seaton has retracted his suggestion of cycle licensing:

    "A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece about cyclists and red lights, in which I
    argued that we cyclists need to put our own house in order: if we want to be
    treated with respect by other road users, we should start earning it. One
    way, I said, would be for cyclists to get tested and be licensed. OK, this
    was silly (please don't write and tell me so again)"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1726087,00.html

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

  2. Quoted message said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights
    on my morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    56?

    FIFTY SIX???

    I've got 20, counting ped crossings - I'd guessed around 8-10 before I
    started counting. Maybe we /should/ start jumping them ;-)

  3. POHB said:

    Following intensive lobbying (well I know a few of us wrote to him) Matt
    Seaton has retracted his suggestion of cycle licensing:

    "A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece about cyclists and red lights, in which I
    argued that we cyclists need to put our own house in order: if we want to be
    treated with respect by other road users, we should start earning it. One
    way, I said, would be for cyclists to get tested and be licensed. OK, this
    was silly (please don't write and tell me so again)"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1726087,00.html

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    No. I have 2 sets of traffic lights, one pelican crossing and one zebra
    crossing and three roundabouts.

  4. "POHB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Following intensive lobbying (well I know a few of us wrote to him) Matt
    Seaton has retracted his suggestion of cycle licensing:

    "A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece about cyclists and red lights, in which
    I argued that we cyclists need to put our own house in order: if we want
    to be treated with respect by other road users, we should start earning
    it. One way, I said, would be for cyclists to get tested and be licensed.
    OK, this was silly (please don't write and tell me so again)"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1726087,00.html

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on
    my morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    See the C+ forum for discussion about his current article..

    http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90840

    Matt arrives at page 9

    http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90840&whichpage=9

    Cheers, helen s

  5. wafflycat said:
    Quoted message said:

    Matt arrives at page 9

    http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90840&whichpage=9

    A case of the lunatics have taken over the asylum in my opinion.

    Simon

  6. "Simon Geller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    wafflycat said:
    Quoted message said:

    Matt arrives at page 9

    http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90840&whichpage=9

    A case of the lunatics have taken over the asylum in my opinion.

    Simon

    ??

  7. POHB said:

    Following intensive lobbying (well I know a few of us wrote to him) Matt
    Seaton has retracted his suggestion of cycle licensing:

    "A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece about cyclists and red lights, in which I
    argued that we cyclists need to put our own house in order: if we want to be
    treated with respect by other road users, we should start earning it. One
    way, I said, would be for cyclists to get tested and be licensed. OK, this
    was silly (please don't write and tell me so again)"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1726087,00.html

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    On my previous commute from my old house right across London I coulnted 130.

    Bryan

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, POHB

    () said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    I got into the seventies before I lost count.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    My only hope in life is to die before I get my comeuppence.

  9. POHB said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights
    on my morning commute, 56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light. And I can get the 25km to
    an occasional place of work passing through no lights and just one
    give-way sign.

    Mike

  10. Mike Causer said:
    POHB said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights
    on my morning commute, 56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light. And I can get the 25km to
    an occasional place of work passing through no lights and just one
    give-way sign.

    With a bit of devious route planning I can get from home to work
    without going through a single traffic light (juction or pedestrian
    controlled). Usually I go through 3 (1 junction, 2 PCTL).

    ...d

    Quoted message said:

    Mike

  11. "POHB" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights
    on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    I used to have around 65, including Pelican crossings.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  12. On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:00:34 -0000, Dave Larrington
    <[email hidden]> said in
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I got into the seventies before I lost count.

    That explains the hairstyle, at least.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  13. Mike Causer said:

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light.

    I think you've forgotten a direction. I'm sure you can reach lights
    in less than 30 minutes Exning-wards.

  14. POHB said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the
    lights on my morning commute, 56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    Just two and a pedestrian crossing if I go the direct route, none if I
    go the summer route.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  15. POHB said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    My 'A' route has 2 sets in 5 miles, my 'B' and 'C' routes have 1 (a
    pelican which is only red to traffic about once every 6 months at teh
    time I go past) in about 6 miles, and I would avoid if I used the
    psychlopath.

    regards, Ian SMith

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  16. Alan Braggins said:
    Mike Causer said:

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light.

    I think you've forgotten a direction. I'm sure you can reach lights in
    less than 30 minutes Exning-wards.

    There's a zebra-crossing in Exning, but no other lights. Nearest is on
    Exning Road in Newmarket, which would be reachable in under 30 minutes if
    I followed the nasty main road, but only just if I follow NCN 51 in one of
    it's more sanitary parts.

    OTOH, have you seen the new bit of NCN 51 in Exning where cyclists are
    advised to cross the road on a corner with *very* limited visibility in
    one direction?

    Mike

  17. in message
    <[email hidden]>, Mike

    Causer (') said:
    POHB said:

    Prompted by that article about red-light running, I counted the lights
    on my morning commute, 56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light. And I can get the 25km
    to an occasional place of work passing through no lights and just one
    give-way sign.

    There is one traffic light 8 miles east of here, controlling a narrow
    hump backed bridge. Going north, there's a light controlled pedestrian
    crossing about 8 miles away, but not on a route you're use to go
    anywhere. The next traffic light North is about 45 miles away, over the
    border in Ayrshire, where they're all heathens. Going west, I think
    you'd need to go sixty miles - to The End of the World as We Know It -
    to find a traffic light.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    I'm fed up with Life 1.0. I never liked it much and now it's getting
    me down. I think I'll upgrade to MSLife 97 -- you know, the one that
    comes in a flash new box and within weeks you're crawling with bugs.

  18. Mike Causer said:
    Alan Braggins said:
    Mike Causer said:

    In a negative way -- I have to ride for 30 minutes from home in any
    direction before encountering even one light.

    I think you've forgotten a direction. I'm sure you can reach lights in
    less than 30 minutes Exning-wards.

    There's a zebra-crossing in Exning, but no other lights. Nearest is on
    Exning Road in Newmarket, which would be reachable in under 30 minutes if
    I followed the nasty main road

    I claim that counts as "you can reach lights in less than 30 minutes
    Exning-wards". (I admit I'd misremembered there being lights in Exning
    itself.)

    Quoted message said:

    OTOH, have you seen the new bit of NCN 51 in Exning where cyclists are
    advised to cross the road on a corner with *very* limited visibility in
    one direction?

    I haven't. I'll look out next time I'm heading that way.

  19. POHB said:

    I counted the lights on my
    morning commute,
    56 in total. Can anyone beat that?

    no, but can anyone /beat/ two lifts on their commute? (I am sure
    several could /equal/ it)

    best wishes
    james

  20. Quoted message said:

    no, but can anyone /beat/ two lifts on their commute? (I am sure
    several could /equal/ it)

    With or without cycle? Do folding cycles count differently?

    Actually, I only use one lift to get me to my desk, but I like the
    thought of riding up and down hundreds of lifts with a bike, especially
    something big like a tandem.

    PhilD

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