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Maverick Sus: What Are The Downsides?

(Pete Cresswell) · 2005-01-05T02:09:28+00:00

Been riding one for about six months now. I'm assuming that they aren't much of a presence in unsponsered racing because I seldom see/hear mention of Maverick. (In sponsored racing, I'd guess that the brand name that's printed on the equipment is determined by who is paying the sponsorship money and not by any relationship to utility, performance, actual origin of equipment, or rider preference.) Personally, I think the Maverick sus that I have is pretty good: almost a hard tail on the climbs, but does what I expect it to do over the bumps - but I don't race... If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct, what am I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the racing world? I've never ridden a 4-bar link - only single pivots...so maybe the answer lies there... -- PeteCresswell

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(Pete Cresswell)
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5 January 2005, 02:09 UTC #1

Been riding one for about six months now.
I'm assuming that they aren't much of a presence in unsponsered racing because I
seldom see/hear mention of Maverick. (In sponsored racing, I'd guess that the
brand name that's printed on the equipment is determined by who is paying the
sponsorship money and not by any relationship to utility, performance, actual
origin of equipment, or rider preference.)
Personally, I think the Maverick sus that I have is pretty good: almost a hard
tail on the climbs, but does what I expect it to do over the bumps - but I don't
race...
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct, what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the racing
world?
I've never ridden a 4-bar link - only single pivots...so maybe the answer lies
there...
--
PeteCresswell

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Slacker
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5 January 2005, 02:26 UTC #2

(Pete Cresswell) said:
Been riding one for about six months now.
I'm assuming that they aren't much of a presence in unsponsered racing
because I
seldom see/hear mention of Maverick. (In sponsored racing, I'd guess
that the
brand name that's printed on the equipment is determined by who is
paying the
sponsorship money and not by any relationship to utility, performance,
actual
origin of equipment, or rider preference.)
Personally, I think the Maverick sus that I have is pretty good: almost
a hard
tail on the climbs, but does what I expect it to do over the bumps - but
I don't
race...
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct,
what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the
racing
world?
I've never ridden a 4-bar link - only single pivots...so maybe the
answer lies
there...
Racing aint got nothing to do with anything.
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Scott
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5 January 2005, 15:49 UTC #3

"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Been riding one for about six months now.
I'm assuming that they aren't much of a presence in unsponsered racing
because I
seldom see/hear mention of Maverick. (In sponsored racing, I'd guess that
the
brand name that's printed on the equipment is determined by who is paying
the
sponsorship money and not by any relationship to utility, performance,
actual
origin of equipment, or rider preference.)
Personally, I think the Maverick sus that I have is pretty good: almost a
hard
tail on the climbs, but does what I expect it to do over the bumps - but I
don't
race...
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct,
what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the racing
world?
I've never ridden a 4-bar link - only single pivots...so maybe the answer
lies
there...
--
PeteCresswell
Look for the DC xc fork to be making more and more appearances in Super D
races this year.

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Bruce Edge
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5 January 2005, 18:09 UTC #4

(Pete Cresswell) said:
Been riding one for about six months now.
I'm assuming that they aren't much of a presence in unsponsered racing because I
seldom see/hear mention of Maverick. (In sponsored racing, I'd guess that the
brand name that's printed on the equipment is determined by who is paying the
sponsorship money and not by any relationship to utility, performance, actual
origin of equipment, or rider preference.)
Personally, I think the Maverick sus that I have is pretty good: almost a hard
tail on the climbs, but does what I expect it to do over the bumps - but I don't
race...
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct, what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the racing
world?
I've never ridden a 4-bar link - only single pivots...so maybe the answer lies
there...
Don't know about Maverick's never ridden one. Although I have to say
that wimpy looking aluminum bolt that passes for a steerer tube would
make me real nervous doing a steep incline to flat transition.
IMHO, 4-bars are better because of brake jack issues. All my single
pivots, tended to skitter in the rear under moderate braking with susp.
activity. My 4-bar tracks a lot better under the same and harder braking
loads. I think it has to do with the rear wheel path though the susp. arc.
My friend has a full XTR maverick ($6K invested) with 5 and 6 inches and
it's 24 lbs. He kiks ass up hills and doesn't seem to lose anything
coming down either.
-Bruce

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bomba
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5 January 2005, 19:34 UTC #5

(Pete Cresswell) said:
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct, what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the racing
world?
Look at their product, their target audience and racing. Where would they
fit in? They make enduro-type trail bikes and forks. Their products aren't
designed to take the stresses of DH or DS, nor is their stuff light enough
for the XC whippet crowd. They may have a presence at 24hr events, but I
can't say I follow those that closely.

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Scott
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6 January 2005, 02:53 UTC #6

"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41dc2da7
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Don't know about Maverick's never ridden one. Although I have to say that
wimpy looking aluminum bolt that passes for a steerer tube would make me
real nervous doing a steep incline to flat transition.
Nah my friend Ray (raysmtb.com) has one on his Foes inferno. He has been
hitting 6' drops to a shallow tranny for over a season. He is a great rider
though but that fork is tough for sure. I have seen him hit everything big
at Snowshoe. He has had many bikes and DC forks since they were first
made... that Maverick is really more than an XC fork.
Werd.

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Scott
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6 January 2005, 02:54 UTC #7

"bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
(Pete Cresswell) said:
If the above assumption about not being a presence in racing is correct,
what am
I missing that Maverick's missing that they aren't making it in the
racing
world?
Look at their product, their target audience and racing. Where would they
fit in? They make enduro-type trail bikes and forks. Their products aren't
designed to take the stresses of DH or DS, nor is their stuff light enough
for the XC whippet crowd. They may have a presence at 24hr events, but I
can't say I follow those that closely.
That and now Super D.
Werd.

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Bruce Edge
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6 January 2005, 22:45 UTC #8

Scott said:
"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41dc2da7
Quoted message said:
Don't know about Maverick's never ridden one. Although I have to say that
wimpy looking aluminum bolt that passes for a steerer tube would make me
real nervous doing a steep incline to flat transition.
Nah my friend Ray (raysmtb.com) has one on his Foes inferno. He has been
hitting 6' drops to a shallow tranny for over a season. He is a great rider
though but that fork is tough for sure. I have seen him hit everything big
at Snowshoe. He has had many bikes and DC forks since they were first
made... that Maverick is really more than an XC fork.
Werd.
What does he weigh?
My friend Dave is a clydesdale on an Id with the Maverick 6" in front,
and he keeps cracking the axle clamps.
-Bruce

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Wesley
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6 January 2005, 23:11 UTC #9

"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Scott said:
"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41dc2da7
Quoted message said:
Don't know about Maverick's never ridden one. Although I have to say that
wimpy looking aluminum bolt that passes for a steerer tube would make me
real nervous doing a steep incline to flat transition.
Nah my friend Ray (raysmtb.com) has one on his Foes inferno. He has been
hitting 6' drops to a shallow tranny for over a season. He is a great
rider though but that fork is tough for sure. I have seen him hit
everything big at Snowshoe. He has had many bikes and DC forks since
they were first made... that Maverick is really more than an XC fork.
Werd.
What does he weigh?
My friend Dave is a clydesdale on an Id with the Maverick 6" in front, and
he keeps cracking the axle clamps.
-Bruce

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Wesley
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6 January 2005, 23:12 UTC #10

"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What does he weigh?
My friend Dave is a clydesdale on an Id with the Maverick 6" in front, and
he keeps cracking the axle clamps.
-Bruce
He is about 195 #'s. Wow how much does your friend weigh?

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Bruce Edge
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7 January 2005, 20:55 UTC #11

Wesley said:
"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What does he weigh?
My friend Dave is a clydesdale on an Id with the Maverick 6" in front, and
he keeps cracking the axle clamps.
-Bruce
He is about 195 #'s. Wow how much does your friend weigh?
Looks like about 250 or so.

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Scott
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9 January 2005, 13:26 UTC #12

"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Looks like about 250 or so.
No I would say Ray is about 170 wow at 250 I would RUN not walk away from
the Maverick.

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(Pete Cresswell)
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9 January 2005, 21:54 UTC #13

Per Scott:
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No I would say Ray is about 170 wow at 250 I would RUN not walk away from
the Maverick.
Howcome?
--
PeteCresswell

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Bruce Edge
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12 January 2005, 19:31 UTC #14

(Pete Cresswell) said:
Per Scott:
Quoted message said:
No I would say Ray is about 170 wow at 250 I would RUN not walk away from
the Maverick.
Howcome?
Go look closely at one of those forks. There is no steerer tube. Instead
there's an aluminum bolt about as thick as a pencil.

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(Pete Cresswell)
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12 January 2005, 20:33 UTC #15

Per Bruce Edge:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Howcome?
Go look closely at one of those forks. There is no steerer tube. Instead
there's an aluminum bolt about as thick as a pencil.
Oops, I thought you were referring to the rear sus system - although it's got a
couple of cheesy-looking bolts of it's own...
--
PeteCresswell

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Dean A. Stepper
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12 January 2005, 20:55 UTC #16

"Bruce Edge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(Pete Cresswell) said:
Per Scott:
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No I would say Ray is about 170 wow at 250 I would RUN not walk away from
the Maverick.
Howcome?
Go look closely at one of those forks. There is no steerer tube. Instead
there's an aluminum bolt about as thick as a pencil.

You are discounting the added strength of the second crown

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12 January 2005, 21:48 UTC #17

Have there been problems? I think Fagerlin's using one....
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Dean A. Stepper
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13 January 2005, 01:04 UTC #18

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Have there been problems? I think Fagerlin's using one....
/s

No problems here...been on my 5-spot for almost a year. Replaced a Fox
125RLC.

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13 January 2005, 02:40 UTC #19

Bruce Edge said:
(Pete Cresswell) said:
Per Scott:
Quoted message said:
No I would say Ray is about 170 wow at 250 I would RUN not walk away
from the Maverick.

Howcome?
Go look closely at one of those forks. There is no steerer tube. Instead
there's an aluminum bolt about as thick as a pencil.
Hmmmm... you mean like this
http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/forkisobig.jpg
http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/tripleclamp.html
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