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  1. In november of 2002 I was diagnosed T2 with 2 readings of 200 (both in fasting). This readings were
    made by 2 different labs with a ten day gap between them. Since then, I changed my diet and started
    exercising. I lost about 90 pounds - still "heavy", but much better (1,80m and 210 pounds). I was
    obese since childhood. I can control BG with exercise and diet only, don´t take any medicine. I
    read BG eventually, every other day, sometimes fasting, sometimes post-pandrial. My typical
    readings are all very low. I get about 80 in the morning before breakfast; 70 after exercises; 90-
    100 aftaer meals (I had two readings above 110 but both were made after lunch after 1 hour. They
    were like both below
    130. Rich carbs lunch.). I don´t think I need more measuring than I do. Doc says I can live this way
    for a long time - I am 40 years old now.

    Is there a standard schedule for readings?

    Thanks, sorry for the bad english (I´m brazillian and don´t practice a lot, only watch cable
    channels...)

    Alan Smithee from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

  2. Alan Smithee said:

    In november of 2002 I was diagnosed T2 with 2


    readings of 200 (both in

    Quoted message said:

    fasting). This readings were made by 2 different labs


    with a ten day

    Quoted message said:

    gap between them. Since then, I changed my diet and started exercising.


    I lost about 90

    Quoted message said:

    pounds - still "heavy", but much better (1,80m and


    210 pounds). I was

    Quoted message said:

    obese since childhood. I can control BG with exercise and diet only, don´t


    take any medicine.

    Quoted message said:

    I read BG eventually, every other day, sometimes


    fasting, sometimes

    Quoted message said:

    post-pandrial. My typical readings are all very low. I get about 80


    in the morning

    Quoted message said:

    before breakfast; 70 after exercises; 90-100 aftaer


    meals (I had two

    Quoted message said:

    readings above 110 but both were made after lunch


    after 1 hour. They

    Quoted message said:

    were like both below 130. Rich carbs lunch.). I don´t think I need more measuring than I do. Doc


    says I can live

    Quoted message said:

    this way for a long time - I am 40 years old now.

    Is there a standard schedule for readings?

    For the first couple of years I tested fasting, 2 hours after breakfast, before the next two
    main meals and two hours after and bedtime. Now I only really test the fasting from time to time
    and after a meal that is a little different to what I normally have or if I feel low. Every few
    weeks I do full testing for a couple of days just to keep tabs on things. You may get away with
    little testing now but I would still advise doing a full day regularly. Better to nip any
    changes in the bud.

  3. Alan Smithee said:

    In november of 2002 I was diagnosed T2 with 2 readings of 200 (both in fasting). This readings were
    made by 2 different labs with a ten day gap between them. Since then, I changed my diet and started
    exercising. I lost about 90 pounds - still "heavy", but much better (1,80m and 210 pounds). I was
    obese since childhood. I can control BG with exercise and diet only, don´t take any medicine. I
    read BG eventually, every other day, sometimes fasting, sometimes post-pandrial. My typical
    readings are all very low. I get about 80 in the morning before breakfast; 70 after exercises; 90-
    100 aftaer meals (I had two readings above 110 but both were made after lunch after 1 hour. They
    were like both below
    130. Rich carbs lunch.). I don´t think I need more measuring than I do. Doc says I can live this
    way for a long time - I am 40 years old now.

    Is there a standard schedule for readings?

    Thanks, sorry for the bad english (I´m brazillian and don´t practice a lot, only watch cable
    channels...)

    Alan Smithee from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    Hi Alan

    Welcome to the group.

    I have to say congratulations. That is an incredible weight loss, and I know how much discipline and
    hard work it must have taken.

    You will find that final few pounds will go the slowest, but don't get discouraged, they will
    eventually go. You've done much more than I, but based on your height, I'd say we both have 10 to 20
    pounds to go.

    Keep up the good work. It's nice to see a success story.

    And don't apologise for your English; it's clear and understandable. That's more than could be said
    of some of those who post here who say English is their native language. It's certainly a damn sight
    better than my Portugese (because I don't know any).

    It doesn't sound like you have a lot of problems with your BGs from what you write. However, be
    aware that I found it much easier to control them as I was losing weight than I do now that I have
    slowed down. Therefore you may find it valuable to read Jennifer's advice at alt-support-alt-support-
    diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm. She also provides information there on the "standard schedule".

    At this stage you may not need to test as much as she recommends, because of your excellent figures.
    But if they become harder to achieve when you stabilise, read her advice again.

    And welcome again; you must be a nice guy with a name like that:-)

    Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. dx May 2002 , A1C 8.2=>5.9, wt 117kg=>90kg, No diabetes meds.Diet and
    not enough exercise. I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers
    carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

  4. Alan Smithee wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    In november of 2002 I was diagnosed T2 with 2 readings of 200 (both in fasting). This readings were
    made by 2 different labs with a ten day gap between them. Since then, I changed my diet and started
    exercising. I lost about 90 pounds - still "heavy", but much better (1,80m and 210 pounds). I was
    obese since childhood. I can control BG with exercise and diet only, don´t take any medicine. I
    read BG eventually, every other day, sometimes fasting, sometimes post-pandrial. My typical
    readings are all very low. I get about 80 in the morning before breakfast; 70 after exercises; 90-
    100 aftaer meals (I had two readings


    above

    Quoted message said:

    110 but both were made after lunch after 1 hour. They were like both below
    130. Rich carbs lunch.). I don´t think I need more measuring than I do. Doc says I can live this
    way for a long time - I am 40 years old now.

    Is there a standard schedule for readings?

    Thanks, sorry for the bad english (I´m brazillian and don´t practice a lot, only watch cable
    channels...)

    Alan Smithee from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    You don't need to apologize for your English. It is very good. Your sentences are clear and
    unambiguous. We often have native english speakers post statements with meanings that cannot be
    deciphered.

    Type 2 diabetics in the early stages of the disease can control with diet and exercise and very few
    home blood tests. My diabetes educator nurse recommends that Type 2 diabetics in the early stages
    can test according to the following schedule:

    1. Day 1: Test fasting bG, test at 2 hours after breakfast

    2. Day 2: Do not test

    3. Day 3: Test immediately before lunch, test at 2 hours after Lunch

    4. Day 4: Do not test

    5. Day 5: Test immediately before dinner, test at 2 hours after dinner

    6. Day 6: Do not test

    7. Day 7: Test immediately before evening snack, test immediately before bed

    8. Day 8: Do not test.

    9. Repeat entire sequence

    By testing in this manner, one surveys their entire day and looks for problems without using large
    numbers of expensive test strips.

    However:

    a. You must be certain you are in control with diet and exercise

    b. You must be certain that you understand what your favorite foods do to your blood sugar and
    how much of each you can eat.

    Unpleasant news:

    1. Type 2 diabetes is a "Progressive" disease. It causes the slow death of the beta cells
    which make insulin. Every day, your ability to make insulin is a bit less than that of the
    previous day. Sooner or later, your ability will be reduced so that control will become
    more difficult.

    At that time, you will need to test more often. You will need to reduce your carbohydrate intake.
    You will probably need medicines .

    That may be at age 50, it may be at age 90. You can delay that time by:

    a. Losing fat pounds
    b. Gaining muscle pounds
    c. Exercising vigorously every day
    d. Rationing your total daily carbohydrate. Eating slowly digesting carbohydrate.
    Splitting your total daily carbohydrate into several small meals instead of a few
    large meals.

    2. During the last 10 years, the Research Doctors have learned many new facts about Type 2
    diabetes. They have changed the treatment guidelines drastically but many doctors have not
    changed their own treatment guidelines to match the newer guidelines.

    The Research Doctors have found that you must:

    a. Be very careful about your blood pressure. You must take strong measures to keep your
    blood pressure below 130/80. Below 120/80 is preferred. ACE or ARB type blood pressure
    medicines are preferred.

    b. Be very careful about your cholesterol and triglycerides. You must take strong measures
    to keep your total cholesterol below 200 mg/dL and your triglycerides below 150 mg/dL.
    It is preferred to keep your triglycerides below 100 mg/dL.

    The vitamin Niacin at 1000 mg/day seems to do well in reducing triglycerides.

    Good luck. Keep coming back to read these newsgroups. Reading them every night has resulted in
    substantial improvements to my health and my quality of life. I am certain it will extend my life.

    Regards
    Old Al

  5. Alan Smithee said:

    In november of 2002 I was diagnosed T2 with 2 readings of 200 (both in fasting). This readings were
    made by 2 different labs with a ten day gap between them. Since then, I changed my diet and started
    exercising. I lost about 90 pounds - still "heavy", but much better (1,80m and 210 pounds). I was
    obese since childhood. I can control BG with exercise and diet only, don´t take any medicine. I
    read BG eventually, every other day, sometimes fasting, sometimes post-pandrial. My typical
    readings are all very low. I get about 80 in the morning before breakfast; 70 after exercises; 90-
    100 aftaer meals (I had two readings above 110 but both were made after lunch after 1 hour. They
    were like both below
    130. Rich carbs lunch.). I don´t think I need more measuring than I do. Doc says I can live this
    way for a long time - I am 40 years old now.

    Is there a standard schedule for readings?


    90 to 100 after meals. WOW. You have about 30 pounds on me and those numbers I would kill for. If
    you are only 130 at 1PP with a carb rich meal, your system still has plenty of life in it.
    Congratulations. Hope it stays that way for a long time. See Sig to record those low BG's.

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  6. Quoted message said:

    For the first couple of years I tested fasting, 2 hours after breakfast, before the next two
    main meals and two hours after and bedtime. Now I only really test the fasting from time to time
    and after a meal that is a little different to what I normally have or if I feel low. Every few
    weeks I do full testing for a couple of days just to keep tabs on things. You may get away with
    little testing now but I would still advise doing a full day regularly. Better to nip any
    changes in the bud.

    Same here...

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    Quoted message said:

    For the first couple of years I tested fasting, 2 hours after breakfast, before the next two
    main meals and two hours after and bedtime. Now I only really test the fasting from time to time
    and after a meal that is a little different to what I normally have or if I feel low. Every few
    weeks I do full testing for a couple of days just to keep tabs on things. You may get away with
    little testing now but I would still advise doing a full day regularly. Better to nip any
    changes in the bud.

    Same here...

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