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  1. My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a
    stringy or chewy texture. Why? I use
    ground chuck and add onions and garlic.
    My burgers do not have this texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

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    Marsha said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture. Why?
    I use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not have
    this texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

    What else do you add to it?

    Meatloaf is best if you make it with a mixture of beef, with half that
    amount each of pork and veal. Even pork and beef make a better meatloaf
    texture.

    Mine always has bran or rolled rye in it for texture, and sauteed onions
    and colorful pepper blend, along with egg and seasonings.

    Susan

  3. Marsha said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture. Why?
    I use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not have
    this texture.

    Post the recipe. Any comment from anyone without that information is
    pure guesswork. Obviously, it's either something you put into it, how
    you cook it, or both.

    Pastorio

  4. Susan said:

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    Marsha said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture.
    Why? I use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not
    have this texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

    What else do you add to it?

    Meatloaf is best if you make it with a mixture of beef, with half that
    amount each of pork and veal. Even pork and beef make a better meatloaf
    texture.

    Mine always has bran or rolled rye in it for texture, and sauteed onions
    and colorful pepper blend, along with egg and seasonings.

    Susan

    I also add eggs, salt, and pepper.
    That's it. No grains.

    Marsha/Ohio

  5. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Susan said:

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    Marsha said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture. Why?
    I use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not have
    this texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

    What else do you add to it?

    Meatloaf is best if you make it with a mixture of beef, with half that
    amount each of pork and veal. Even pork and beef make a better meatloaf
    texture.

    Mine always has bran or rolled rye in it for texture, and sauteed onions
    and colorful pepper blend, along with egg and seasonings.

    Susan

    Can you suggest a fool proof meat loaf recipe for me. I'm not sure about the
    rest of the UK but it wasn't a common dish where I lived hence I could do
    with some tasty advice. I'm assured it can be a fantastic dish!.....but
    believe me I'm not quite convinced yet....
    I did have it occationally for school dinners but it was awful, ranging from
    wet and slimey to dry and almost powdery!
    Reards,
    Denise

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  6. * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spicy Turkey Loaf (Low-Carb)

    Recipe By :
    Serving Size : 10 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories :

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    Seasoning Mix
    2 teaspoons Salt
    1 tb Sweet Paprika
    1 1/2 ts Dried Sweet Basil
    1 t Onion Powder
    1 t Dry Mustard
    1 t Ground Cumin
    3/4 ts Garlic Powder
    3/4 ts Black Pepper
    1/2 ts White Pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne
    1/4 ts Ground Allspice
    Ingredients
    1 1/2 c Chopped Onions
    3/4 c Chopped Green Bell Peppers
    1/2 c Chopped Celery
    1 tb Minced Fresh Garlic
    2 tb Balsamic Vinegar
    2 tb Worcestershire Sauce
    2 each Eggs
    2 pounds Ground Turkey / or / Ground Beef

    Combine seasonings in small bowl. Preheat a heavy 10-inch skillet,
    preferably nonstick, over high heat to 350 degrees, for about 4 minutes.
    Add the onions, bell peppers, celery, and 3 tablespoons of the seasoning
    mix. Cook until the vegetables start to soften, about 2 or 3 mninutes. Add
    the garlic, vinegar, and Worestershire sauce and cook, stirring two or three
    times to keep the vegetables from sticking too hard, until all the liquid
    evaporates, about 5 minutes. Turn off the heat and let the mixture cool to
    room temperature.
    Preheat the oven to 300 degrees.
    When the vegetables and liquid reach the room temperature, place them in a
    large bowl, add the remaining seasoning mix and combine throughly. Stir in
    the eggs. Add the ground turkey and gently stir just until combined - do not
    overmix. Press the mixture into a 12x9x3 inch loaf pan and bake until done,
    about 40 to 45 mimutes.
    from: Paul Prudhomme's "Fork in the Road"

    --

    Ken

    "Buddhism elucidates why we are sentient."
    "Karma means that you don't get away with anything."

    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a
    | stringy or chewy texture. Why? I use
    | ground chuck and add onions and garlic.
    | My burgers do not have this texture.
    |
    | Marsha/Ohio
    |

  7. Marsha said:
    Susan said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Marsha said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture.
    Why? I use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do
    not have this texture.

    Here's a column I wrote a while back...

    To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP that
    you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're like bread
    crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I've never heard of stringy meatloaf. It could be that you haven't mixed
    the eggs in enough. My advice is to combine everything you're adding to
    the meat, and then add the meat.

    Pastorio
    -------------------------
    Magical meatloaf mysteries explained...
    Depending on what you call it; it's either gourmet cuisine or "Gee
    whiz, Mom, not that again." It's a well established scientific fact
    that when it's called Pâté, it tastes better and restaurants can charge
    more.
    Yes, it's the dreaded meatloaf; scourge of the lunch box; the dry and
    gaggy black hole of culinary moisture; the place where millions of
    gallons of ketchup and steak sauce give their lives as desperate
    lubricant and flavor provider. It doesn't have to be that way.
    What started me thinking about meatloaf happened a couple weeks ago. I
    went next door to the Thomas’ house for a minute to pick something up.
    They’d finished dinner a while ago, but the house still smelled
    wonderful from the meal. Yep. Meat loaf. I went home and made myself
    one. Then my house smelled good, too.
    By the way, in French, Pâté means "patty" like a burger, or "blot or
    stain" in addition to ground or chopped meat. If a small French child
    says to you, J'ai fait un pâté, welcome to the joys of parenthood and
    disposable diapers. Some snide people would say that this is a good
    spread of meanings both for this word and the food product.
    Today we're going to completely change your mind and look at some new
    ideas for ingredients, new shapes and new ways to serve them. No, it's
    not too ambitious.
    The basic idea of meatloaf is the very picture of simplicity: ground
    meat, a binder to hold it together, an extender to add volume and
    lightness, and flavorings like herbs, ketchup and about ten thousand
    other things. Yes, ketchup. Don’t start up with me.
    There are two reasons for meatloaf to be dry: first, not enough fat
    and; second, cooked too much. Yes, we should eat less fat, but no, you
    can't make a moist, tasty meatloaf without it. Ground chuck at between
    20% and 25% fat content is best. We're going to try to cook the meat to
    about 160 degrees in the center. It's cooked through but not dried out.
    There's one restaurant technique that you can use to keep it moist in
    addition to the ones mentioned above. Adding a little unflavored
    gelatin or gelatinous stock to the meat will help to hold moisture with
    no extra fat. Dissolve the gelatin (in water or, much better, stock)
    according to package directions and add no more than 1/2 cup of the
    solution per pound of meat before shaping the loaf.
    Other tips: the more you handle and work the meat, the tougher the
    finished meatloaf will be. Combine the other ingredients first, then
    mix them into the meat.
    For a new look, try a ring mold. After unmolding the meat onto a
    platter, fill the center with steamed broccoli or mashed potatoes. Or
    serve the ring cold with potato or macaroni salad in the center.
    Bake individual portions in a greased muffin pan.
    Layer it to make pretty patterns when you slice it. Make the basic
    mix, separate it into two or three batches, add different additional
    ingredients to each so they look slightly different from each other.
    For layers, spread one batch on the bottom of the pan, spread another on
    top and finish with the third.
    Make pretty slices by baking it in two layers with a filling between.
    Put half the meat mixture in a loaf pan and make a shallow groove down
    the center. Put some red pepper strips in the groove. Press a line of
    peeled hard boiled eggs on top of the peppers. Put green pepper strips
    on top of the eggs and cover/surround with the remaining meat. Slices
    will show egg and the two colors of peppers in the center. Or use
    celery, carrot, olives, sausages, bacon strips, or whatever you like.
    For fuller flavor, a blend of meats works well. Pork, veal and lamb
    can be added to the basic beef in any proportions you like.
    For a different texture, combine ground meat with chunks of meat.
    Basic meatloaf updated
    This is the starting point for any of the variations listed below.
    Makes 8 portions
    2 pounds any ground meat (or 1 pound each ground and chunks)
    1/2 pound ground smoked ham or loose sausage meat
    1 tablespoon butter
    2 tablespoons onion, minced
    2 tablespoons bell pepper, minced
    2 tablespoons celery, minced
    1 clove garlic, minced
    1/4 cup mushrooms, minced
    2 eggs, beaten
    1 cup dry bread crumbs
    1/2 cup beef stock
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon pepper
    1/2 cup ketchup
    Heat oven to 350. Gently combine the meats and refrigerate. Melt the
    butter in a skillet over medium heat and add vegetables and saute until
    limp and moisture has evaporated. Remove from heat and put into a bowl
    large enough to hold everything. Combine vegetables and remaining
    ingredients, mixing well. Add meat, gently mixing. Shape as desired
    and bake until the center temperature is 160, about 45 minutes. Let
    rest 15 or 20 minutes before cutting.
    Variations: Add 1/2 cup cream, sour cream or yogurt for smoothness.
    Add 1/2 cup olives, capers or chopped pickles for a vinegar sharpness.
    Add 2 tablespoons horseradish. Add 1/4 cup chopped hot chili peppers.
    Add a handful of raisins, peas, cooked beans, chopped nuts. Use corn
    bread for the bread crumbs. Rye bread.
    Serve with sauces: A thick, rich tomato sauce. White sauce with some
    sharp cheese in it. A light beef gravy. Saute onions until brown and
    add to beef gravy. Mushroom sauce. Bearnaise sauce. Hollandaise
    sauce. Sausage gravy.
    Mix/layer/braid/spiral the meats: Beef, veal and turkey. Ground beef
    and pork slices. Lamb and veal. Veal with chunks of chicken. Turkey
    with chunks of soaked country ham. Ground meat with slices of sausage.
    And you thought it wasn't going to be interesting. The other major
    thing we haven't mentioned here is that good meatloaf is cheap. Tastes
    good, looks pretty and it's cheap. What a country.

  8. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Depending on what you call it; it's either gourmet cuisine or "Gee whiz,
    Mom, not that again." It's a well established scientific fact that when
    it's called Pâté, it tastes better and restaurants can charge more.

    Thanks.

  9. do you bake your burgers?
    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture. Why? I
    use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not have this
    texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

  10. A.D.C. said:

    do you bake your burgers?
    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My meatloaf sometimes comes out with a stringy or chewy texture. Why? I
    use ground chuck and add onions and garlic. My burgers do not have this
    texture.

    Marsha/Ohio

    We grill or fry burgers.

    Marsha/Ohio

  11. Bob (this one) said:

    Here's a column I wrote a while back...

    To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP that
    you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're like bread
    crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I've never heard of stringy meatloaf. It could be that you haven't mixed
    the eggs in enough. My advice is to combine everything you're adding to
    the meat, and then add the meat.

    Pastorio
    -------------------------
    Magical meatloaf mysteries explained...
    Depending on what you call it; it's either gourmet cuisine or "Gee
    whiz, Mom, not that again." It's a well established scientific fact
    that when it's called Pâté, it tastes better and restaurants can charge
    more.
    Yes, it's the dreaded meatloaf; scourge of the lunch box; the dry
    and gaggy black hole of culinary moisture; the place where millions of
    gallons of ketchup and steak sauce give their lives as desperate
    lubricant and flavor provider. It doesn't have to be that way.
    What started me thinking about meatloaf happened a couple weeks
    ago. I went next door to the Thomas’ house for a minute to pick
    something up. They’d finished dinner a while ago, but the house still
    smelled wonderful from the meal. Yep. Meat loaf. I went home and made
    myself one. Then my house smelled good, too.
    By the way, in French, Pâté means "patty" like a burger, or "blot or
    stain" in addition to ground or chopped meat. If a small French child
    says to you, J'ai fait un pâté, welcome to the joys of parenthood and
    disposable diapers. Some snide people would say that this is a good
    spread of meanings both for this word and the food product.
    Today we're going to completely change your mind and look at some
    new ideas for ingredients, new shapes and new ways to serve them. No,
    it's not too ambitious.
    The basic idea of meatloaf is the very picture of simplicity: ground
    meat, a binder to hold it together, an extender to add volume and
    lightness, and flavorings like herbs, ketchup and about ten thousand
    other things. Yes, ketchup. Don’t start up with me.
    There are two reasons for meatloaf to be dry: first, not enough fat
    and; second, cooked too much. Yes, we should eat less fat, but no, you
    can't make a moist, tasty meatloaf without it. Ground chuck at between
    20% and 25% fat content is best. We're going to try to cook the meat to
    about 160 degrees in the center. It's cooked through but not dried out.
    There's one restaurant technique that you can use to keep it moist
    in addition to the ones mentioned above. Adding a little unflavored
    gelatin or gelatinous stock to the meat will help to hold moisture with
    no extra fat. Dissolve the gelatin (in water or, much better, stock)
    according to package directions and add no more than 1/2 cup of the
    solution per pound of meat before shaping the loaf.
    Other tips: the more you handle and work the meat, the tougher the
    finished meatloaf will be. Combine the other ingredients first, then
    mix them into the meat.
    For a new look, try a ring mold. After unmolding the meat onto a
    platter, fill the center with steamed broccoli or mashed potatoes. Or
    serve the ring cold with potato or macaroni salad in the center.
    Bake individual portions in a greased muffin pan.
    Layer it to make pretty patterns when you slice it. Make the basic
    mix, separate it into two or three batches, add different additional
    ingredients to each so they look slightly different from each other. For
    layers, spread one batch on the bottom of the pan, spread another on top
    and finish with the third.
    Make pretty slices by baking it in two layers with a filling
    between. Put half the meat mixture in a loaf pan and make a shallow
    groove down the center. Put some red pepper strips in the groove.
    Press a line of peeled hard boiled eggs on top of the peppers. Put
    green pepper strips on top of the eggs and cover/surround with the
    remaining meat. Slices will show egg and the two colors of peppers in
    the center. Or use celery, carrot, olives, sausages, bacon strips, or
    whatever you like.
    For fuller flavor, a blend of meats works well. Pork, veal and lamb
    can be added to the basic beef in any proportions you like.
    For a different texture, combine ground meat with chunks of meat.
    Basic meatloaf updated
    This is the starting point for any of the variations listed below.
    Makes 8 portions
    2 pounds any ground meat (or 1 pound each ground and chunks)
    1/2 pound ground smoked ham or loose sausage meat
    1 tablespoon butter
    2 tablespoons onion, minced
    2 tablespoons bell pepper, minced
    2 tablespoons celery, minced
    1 clove garlic, minced
    1/4 cup mushrooms, minced
    2 eggs, beaten
    1 cup dry bread crumbs
    1/2 cup beef stock
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon pepper
    1/2 cup ketchup
    Heat oven to 350. Gently combine the meats and refrigerate. Melt the
    butter in a skillet over medium heat and add vegetables and saute until
    limp and moisture has evaporated. Remove from heat and put into a bowl
    large enough to hold everything. Combine vegetables and remaining
    ingredients, mixing well. Add meat, gently mixing. Shape as desired
    and bake until the center temperature is 160, about 45 minutes. Let
    rest 15 or 20 minutes before cutting.
    Variations: Add 1/2 cup cream, sour cream or yogurt for smoothness.
    Add 1/2 cup olives, capers or chopped pickles for a vinegar sharpness.
    Add 2 tablespoons horseradish. Add 1/4 cup chopped hot chili peppers.
    Add a handful of raisins, peas, cooked beans, chopped nuts. Use corn
    bread for the bread crumbs. Rye bread.
    Serve with sauces: A thick, rich tomato sauce. White sauce with
    some sharp cheese in it. A light beef gravy. Saute onions until brown
    and add to beef gravy. Mushroom sauce. Bearnaise sauce. Hollandaise
    sauce. Sausage gravy.
    Mix/layer/braid/spiral the meats: Beef, veal and turkey. Ground
    beef and pork slices. Lamb and veal. Veal with chunks of chicken.
    Turkey with chunks of soaked country ham. Ground meat with slices of
    sausage.
    And you thought it wasn't going to be interesting. The other major
    thing we haven't mentioned here is that good meatloaf is cheap. Tastes
    good, looks pretty and it's cheap. What a country.

    Thanks, Bob. I think we're mixing way
    too much, trying to make sure all the
    ingredients are blended. After
    googling, I found several references to
    that being a problem. We will mix
    everything together first and then add
    the meat. We'll also try the TVP.

    Marsha/Ohio

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    Denise said:

    Can you suggest a fool proof meat loaf recipe for me. I'm not sure about the
    rest of the UK but it wasn't a common dish where I lived hence I could do
    with some tasty advice. I'm assured it can be a fantastic dish!.....but
    believe me I'm not quite convinced yet....
    I did have it occationally for school dinners but it was awful, ranging from
    wet and slimey to dry and almost powdery!

    Fran McCullough's basic meat loaf recipe in her Low Carb Cookbook is the
    best I've found.

    Susan

  13. x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) said:

    Here's a column I wrote a while back...

    To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP that
    you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're like bread
    crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I don't cook with TVP, ever.

    Susan

  14. x-no-archive: yes

    Marsha said:

    Thanks, Bob. I think we're mixing way too much, trying to make sure all
    the ingredients are blended. After googling, I found several references
    to that being a problem. We will mix everything together first and
    then add the meat. We'll also try the TVP.

    Marsha/Ohio

    That's what I do, and I mix it up just til blended, avoid handling
    ground meat too much.

    Susan

  15. Susan said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) said:

    Here's a column I wrote a while back...

    To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP
    that you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're like
    bread crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I don't cook with TVP, ever.

    I don't cook with cilantro. Ever.

    Pastorio

  16. x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) said:
    Susan said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) said:

    Here's a column I wrote a while back...

    To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP
    that you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're like
    bread crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I don't cook with TVP, ever.

    I don't cook with cilantro. Ever.

    Pastorio

    LOL... that's a 50-50 bet. Folks love it or hate it.

    Susan

  17. "Susan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Denise said:

    Can you suggest a fool proof meat loaf recipe for me. I'm not sure about
    the rest of the UK but it wasn't a common dish where I lived hence I
    could do with some tasty advice. I'm assured it can be a fantastic
    dish!.....but believe me I'm not quite convinced yet....
    I did have it occationally for school dinners but it was awful, ranging
    from wet and slimey to dry and almost powdery!

    Fran McCullough's basic meat loaf recipe in her Low Carb Cookbook is the
    best I've found.

    Susan

    Thank you!
    Regards,
    Denise

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  18. Susan said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) said:
    Susan said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    Bob (this one) wrote:

    > Here's a column I wrote a while back...
    >
    > To get it lower in carbs, instead of bread crumbs, you can use TVP
    > that you run through a food processor to grind finer, so they're
    > like bread crumbs. Use an LC ketchup if you'd like.

    I don't cook with TVP, ever.

    I don't cook with cilantro. Ever.

    Pastorio

    LOL... that's a 50-50 bet. Folks love it or hate it.

    It's actually a genetic thing. Some significant percentage of people all
    over the world find it tastes soapy to them. I've seen estimates as high
    as 30%. They are genetically disposed to taste soap when eating
    cilantro. Like me.

    TVP is perfectly good food. It's a protein isolate that can be used for
    many things. No carbs, no fat.

    Pastorio

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