milk & grocery cashier

George Lagergren said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

Or, more likely, he was humoring a checkout wacko to move the line along.

Pastorio

George Lagergren said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

Or, more likely, he was humoring a checkout wacko to move the line along.

Pastorio

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I can't drink the bottled orange juice or frozen o.j. from the stores. It
creates too much mucus in my mouth and leaves me thirsty. Also it sometimes
makes my throat sore.

Thaw it first. Should solve all those problems. Oh, and mix it with 3
cans of water.

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I can drink the fresh squeezed with pulp but I prefer eating the orange without
squeezing it.

Rocket science...

Pastorio

Quoted message said:

I can't drink the bottled orange juice or frozen o.j. from the stores. It
creates too much mucus in my mouth and leaves me thirsty. Also it sometimes
makes my throat sore.

Thaw it first. Should solve all those problems. Oh, and mix it with 3
cans of water.

Quoted message said:

I can drink the fresh squeezed with pulp but I prefer eating the orange without
squeezing it.

Rocket science...

Pastorio

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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:05:13 GMT, "George Lagergren"
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Quoted message said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

I can't drink the bottled orange juice or frozen o.j. from the stores. It
creates too much mucus in my mouth and leaves me thirsty. Also it
sometimes
makes my throat sore.

I can drink the fresh squeezed with pulp but I prefer eating the orange
without
squeezing it.

Ora

Just about every morning, I peel an orange and put it in the blender with a
banana, 1/2 cup fat free plain yogurt, and some blueberries and ice. Lots
of vitamins and tastes about like a milk shake.

Hugh

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Bob (this one) said:

Quoted message said:

I can't drink the bottled orange juice or frozen o.j. from the stores. It
creates too much mucus in my mouth and leaves me thirsty. Also it sometimes
makes my throat sore.

Thaw it first. Should solve all those problems. Oh, and mix it with 3
cans of water.

And after you do that you are supposed to pour it back and forth between two
pitchers to aerate it. Makes it taste much better. Good for the family who
loves to drink it but I eat an orange.

Do it in a blender and really whip it around. Tastes like ya jes skwuz
it... Or use a wand blender right in the pitcher. Drop in a few peeled
tangerine segments, maybe a navel orange segment or two. Good pulp, good
flavor.

Pastorio

I add buttermilk instead of yogurt and it's wonderful. My
understanding is that you only absorb about 10% of the calcium in milk
but 95% of the calcium from buttermilk. I like fresh organic
buttermilk. Some brands taste better than others.

George Lagergren said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

When I was a child I saw several dead bugs in a bucket of discarded
milk at my uncle's dairy farm, therefore we must conclude that milk is
a deadly poison to all bugs and possibly to all mankind, and buckets
have an enforcing effect to its murderous properties. We must ban this
deadly substance and their containers immediately to save the children,
my god, will someone please think of the children.....

TC

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I don't use buttermilk because it is not really buttermilk. It is just cultured
milk.

There are two kinds of buttermilk recognized by dairy folks. The liquid
left over from churning to make cream (still has all its lactose) which
is merely rather thin skim milk with a few little bits of butter in it
if made from sweet (unsoured) cream. The other type is cultured (where
most of the lactose is digested) where it thickens by bacterial and/or
acid action.

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Yogurt is cultured milk but yogurt comes in slick cartons and buttermilk
comes in regular milk cartons. Did you ever notice that an empty buttermilk
carton is heavier than an empty milk carton? That is because the "buttermilk"
soaks into the walls of the carton.

Bwahahahahaha... Right It "soaks into" plastic cartons.

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I use yogurt instead of buttermilk.

Of course.

Pastorio

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sirenityseekr said:

I add buttermilk instead of yogurt and it's wonderful. My
understanding is that you only absorb about 10% of the calcium in milk
but 95% of the calcium from buttermilk. I like fresh organic
buttermilk. Some brands taste better than others.

TC said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

When I was a child I saw several dead bugs in a bucket of discarded
milk at my uncle's dairy farm, therefore we must conclude that milk is
a deadly poison to all bugs and possibly to all mankind, and buckets
have an enforcing effect to its murderous properties. We must ban this
deadly substance and their containers immediately to save the children,
my god, will someone please think of the children...

And don't forget plants. My God man, they suffer just as much if not
more. So, so many of them give their lives to make the milk...

Pastorio

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I don't use buttermilk because it is not really buttermilk. It is just
cultured
milk. Yogurt is cultured milk but yogurt comes in slick cartons and
buttermilk
comes in regular milk cartons. Did you ever notice that an empty
buttermilk
carton is heavier than an empty milk carton? That is because the
"buttermilk"
soaks into the walls of the carton.

No. It isn't. Experiment and get back to us.

moo

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]>

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Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

More likely that he, correctly, thought you're a raving loonie and was
trying to avoid further conversation.

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Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

Idiot.

moo

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Well... I don't know about the 'general public', though I'm not
surprised that that grocery store cashier was 'in-the-know'.

After-all, what else do they have to do between ringing customer
through other than read the tabloid headlines:

"Milk Presents Certain Health Problems"
"See - Nude photo of Bigfoot!"
"Elvis is... Ronald McDonald?"
"Aliens Abduct Corpse of John Paul!"

George Lagergren said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

Quoted message said:

Bob (this one) said:

Quoted message said:

I don't use buttermilk because it is not really buttermilk. It is just cultured
milk.

There are two kinds of buttermilk recognized by dairy folks. The liquid
left over from churning to make cream (still has all its lactose) which
is merely rather thin skim milk with a few little bits of butter in it
if made from sweet (unsoured) cream. The other type is cultured (where
most of the lactose is digested) where it thickens by bacterial and/or
acid action.

Churned buttermilk is not available much any more. I can't find it anywhere. I
don't think they sell it commercially in large quantities.

They *only* sell it in large quantities. For the food manufacturers.

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I called several milk companies and they said they no longer supply churned
buttermilk, only the cultured kind.

Make your own.

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Yogurt is cultured milk but yogurt comes in slick cartons and buttermilk
comes in regular milk cartons. Did you ever notice that an empty buttermilk
carton is heavier than an empty milk carton? That is because the "buttermilk"
soaks into the walls of the carton.

Bwahahahahaha... Right It "soaks into" plastic cartons.

You scoff but those cartons are not plastic. They are cardboard coated with
plastic. Acid eats plastic. Did you ever leave lemon juice in a styrofoam cup
overnight? It eats a ring in the styrofoam around the top of the orange juice.

How silly; you complain about the containers and you don't know what
they're made of. *Some* acids eat *some* plastics. How unutterably
stupid would food packagers have to be to put their products into
self-destructing packages? And I bet you think the FDA would let food
packagers put their foods into packaging that would "soak up" the contents.

Forget that lemon juice foolishness. Orange juice is packed in the same
kind of containers as buttermilk.

Styrofoam isn't lemon juice soluble. Or orange juice. It's specifically
designed to hold acids like coffee, tea, juices and soft drinks. Learn
some chemistry.

Pastorio

Mars Observer said:

Well... I don't know about the 'general public', though I'm not
surprised that that grocery store cashier was 'in-the-know'.

Grocery store cashier may very well be "in-the-know" by listening
to the stories the people tell them about the pros & cons, let us say, of
food product "X".

In article <[email hidden]>,

George Lagergren said:

Mars Observer said:

Well... I don't know about the 'general public', though I'm not
surprised that that grocery store cashier was 'in-the-know'.

Grocery store cashier may very well be "in-the-know" by listening
to the stories the people tell them about the pros & cons, let us say, of
food product "X".

Or they may be dolts who are cashiers because that is the most complex
job they could handle. In any case, there's no reason to assume they
are "onto" anything about milk. After all, you aren't.

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-- Steve Martin

George Lagergren said:

Mars Observer said:

Well... I don't know about the 'general public', though I'm not
surprised that that grocery store cashier was 'in-the-know'.

Grocery store cashier may very well be "in-the-know" by listening
to the stories the people tell them about the pros & cons, let us say, of
food product "X".

Or they may not want to lose themselves or their employers business by
either disagreeing with you, telling you they have no idea what you're
talking about, or simply rolling their eyes.

Be aware, they don't always mean it from the bottom of their hearts
when they say, "Have a nice day."

Cathy

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Bob (this one) said:

Quoted message said:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:52:44 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>[email hidden] wrote:
>
>>I don't use buttermilk because it is not really buttermilk. It is just cultured
>>milk.
>
>There are two kinds of buttermilk recognized by dairy folks. The liquid
>left over from churning to make cream (still has all its lactose) which
>is merely rather thin skim milk with a few little bits of butter in it
>if made from sweet (unsoured) cream. The other type is cultured (where
>most of the lactose is digested) where it thickens by bacterial and/or
>acid action.

Churned buttermilk is not available much any more. I can't find it anywhere. I
don't think they sell it commercially in large quantities.

They *only* sell it in large quantities. For the food manufacturers.

Quoted message said:

I called several milk companies and they said they no longer supply churned
buttermilk, only the cultured kind.

Make your own.

Quoted message said:

>>Yogurt is cultured milk but yogurt comes in slick cartons and buttermilk
>>comes in regular milk cartons. Did you ever notice that an empty buttermilk
>>carton is heavier than an empty milk carton? That is because the "buttermilk"
>>soaks into the walls of the carton.
>
>Bwahahahahaha... Right It "soaks into" plastic cartons.

You scoff but those cartons are not plastic. They are cardboard coated with
plastic. Acid eats plastic. Did you ever leave lemon juice in a styrofoam cup
overnight? It eats a ring in the styrofoam around the top of the orange juice.

How silly; you complain about the containers and you don't know what
they're made of. *Some* acids eat *some* plastics. How unutterably
stupid would food packagers have to be to put their products into
self-destructing packages? And I bet you think the FDA would let food
packagers put their foods into packaging that would "soak up" the contents.

Forget that lemon juice foolishness. Orange juice is packed in the same
kind of containers as buttermilk.

Styrofoam isn't lemon juice soluble. Or orange juice. It's specifically
designed to hold acids like coffee, tea, juices and soft drinks. Learn
some chemistry.

Pastorio

You believe what you want to or you check it out.

You haven't addressed this:

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Quoted message said:

How unutterably stupid would food packagers have to be to put their
products into self-destructing packages? And I bet you think the FDA
would let food packagers put their foods into packaging that would
"soak up" the contents.

Clearly you have no experience in this world.

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Your choice.

You sound like all the cranks who still believe we didn't go to the
moon. My choices, beyond what you seem to think they are, include having
spent several days watching it made from resins through finished
products so I could write about it. I spoke with scientists, recyclers,
manufacturers who made things with it and an FDA scientist who explained
what their packaging criteria are.

And, BTW, what does styrofoam have to do with plasticized cartons? You
know, the ones that buttermilk "soaks into." I'm a food manufacturer who
has packaged various of my products in glass, metal, plastic and even
innerlined Tyvek bags. You clearly aren't.

Pastorio

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Quoted message said:

Topic: cow's milk & grocery cashier

Recently as I was at the grocery store check-out line, I mentioned to the
cashier that I was purchasing bottled water since I no longer drank cow's
milk as cow's milk gave me strep throats.
He replied that he was aware that drinking cow's milk may present certain
health problems..
The cashier said he now drinks orange juice rather than cow's milk.

Maybe the facts about the true nature of cow's milk is slowly reaching the
general public.

George, do you lurk by the dairy case at the supermarket to accost strangers
who are buying milk? Do people back away in horror when you launch into your
tale of strep throats and lung congestion?

One of these days you are going to get a punch in the nose.

--Rich