minalist fork cronw race removal?

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try a walmart machete. block part with wood. heat till smokes.place
machete edge on crown seam. tap back of machete with wood block. move
180 tap again. repeat then try 90.

yeah and clean open end, wire brush, utility blade point scrape, and
soak with pc blaster for a significant period before attempting
removal soas avoid jamming the outgoing race over debris.

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?

Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
_if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.

We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

A Muzi said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Quoted message said:

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?

Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
_if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.

We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Hi Andrew
Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
difference.
Not arguing, just curious, John

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?

if you have automotive tools, try one of these:
http://www.mytoolstore.com/otc/1122.html
the 2" version and some 3/8" stud works just dandy. place the splitter
so it gets behind the race, screw the studs into the holes, [one marked
"A"] and pull the other ends of the studs against another common
extractor. 100% effective. significantly cheaper.

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A Muzi said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
_if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.
We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

john said:

Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
difference.
Not arguing, just curious, John

I looked at both, bought the Hozan. YMMV
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Mar 22, 7:27 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

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I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?

Yes, what we use...

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek)

Cane Creek makes bikes?

Bill "it's Friday" S.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:09:48 -0600, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

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We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

I use a single edge razor blade first and then a sharp knife. I
slowly increase the width of the prying device to drift off the crown
race. So far, I've had 100% success w/o damaging a cf fork.

In article <[email hidden]>,

A Muzi said:

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A Muzi said:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> ever have to take this off?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
_if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.
We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

john said:

Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
difference.
Not arguing, just curious, John

I looked at both, bought the Hozan. YMMV

I strongly suspect that part of the deal is that for Andrew, durability
and efficiency in a tool are worth money.

You and I would be likely to use a crown race puller once or twice a
year at best, and a slow process or a broken tool would not cost us much
other than time and trouble.

For Andrew, he probably uses that same tool multiple times a week, and
each time he does, he's on the clock and liable for any damage a clumsy
tool might inflict on the fork in question. A tool that can remove more
types of crowns, more efficiently

http://www.hozan.co.jp/cycle_e/catalog/fork/C-440.htm

In such a context, the $200 price difference is the kind of thing where
the better tool will pay for itself numerous times over its working life.

Since you and I are not on the clock, and saving a few minutes every
year or so isn't a big deal, we should probably use the traditional
backyard bodger techniques involving machetes, chisels, and such.

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