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  1. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550

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    Bob in CT

  2. Bob M said:

    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550

    One of the hard lessons science sometimes teaches is:

    "If a Little is GOOD, A Whole Lot More Ain't Necessarily Better !!"

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I have fallen for several of these empty minded schemes in nutrition in
    my life......

    Ginko Baloba (only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    Phosphadidyl Serine (only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    Choline (Only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    One lesson is that:

    HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL

    or

    BUSINESSES WANT YOUR MONEY

    Jim

  3. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:00:27 -0600, jbuch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bob M said:

    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550

    One of the hard lessons science sometimes teaches is:

    "If a Little is GOOD, A Whole Lot More Ain't Necessarily Better !!"

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I have fallen for several of these empty minded schemes in nutrition in
    my life......

    Ginko Baloba (only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    Phosphadidyl Serine (only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    Choline (Only slightly effective in restricted circumstances)

    One lesson is that:

    HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL

    or

    BUSINESSES WANT YOUR MONEY

    Jim

    I've also taken stuff, too, and much of it is quite expensive.

    --
    Bob in CT

  4. "jbuch" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550

    Clue: Vitamin E is a fat soluable vitamin. So is vitamin D.
    Vitamins B and C on the other hand are water-soluable
    vitamins.

    If you overdose water-soluable vitamins, the bits that your
    body doesn't need get expelled in the urine.

    If you overdose fat-soluable vitamins, the bits that your
    body doesn't need get stored in your body, where they can
    build up to toxic levels.

    --

    Bob, "Don't they teach ANYTHING in school any more?"

    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  5. Bob M wrote:
    || http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550
    ||
    || --
    || Bob in CT

    It's interesting to me that before I saw this post or read about the Vitamin
    E study directly, I first heard about it on the radio a couple of days ago
    by someone who was refuting its validity.

    They were saying that the studies were sponsored by big drug companies and
    conducted by doctors on the payroll of the drug companies. It was also
    pointed out that in the studies, vitamin E was administered to those who
    already had CV disease or who were elderly -- people on whom the long-term
    preventative effect of Vitamin E would have no effect. They also said that
    the type and quaity of the vitamin administered in the studies was
    completely different than the supplements taken by people OTC; that the
    Vitamn E had been purposely exsposed to oxidants prior to administering it
    which reduced the anti-oxidant effect. IOW, the studies were designed and
    slanted to achieve the results that were obtained.

    Of course I don't believe everything that I hear on the radio any more than
    I believe everything I read published on the internet. Neither one is going
    to change my daily regiment of nutritional supplements.

    Peter

  6. Marengo said:

    Bob M wrote:
    ||
    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550
    ||
    || --
    || Bob in CT

    It's interesting to me that before I saw this post or read about the
    Vitamin
    E study directly, I first heard about it on the radio a couple of days
    ago
    by someone who was refuting its validity.

    They were saying that the studies were sponsored by big drug companies
    and
    conducted by doctors on the payroll of the drug companies. It was also
    pointed out that in the studies, vitamin E was administered to those who
    already had CV disease or who were elderly -- people on whom the
    long-term
    preventative effect of Vitamin E would have no effect. They also said
    that
    the type and quaity of the vitamin administered in the studies was
    completely different than the supplements taken by people OTC; that the
    Vitamn E had been purposely exsposed to oxidants prior to administering
    it
    which reduced the anti-oxidant effect. IOW, the studies were designed
    and
    slanted to achieve the results that were obtained.

    Of course I don't believe everything that I hear on the radio any more
    than
    I believe everything I read published on the internet. Neither one is
    going
    to change my daily regiment of nutritional supplements.

    Peter

    I take some supplements, too, although I only take a good multi.

    --
    Bob in CT

  7. ---
    CHICAGO (Reuters) - Daily vitamin E supplements do not prevent cancer, strokes
    or heart attacks in older people with vascular disease or diabetes, and may
    increase their risk of heart failure, a study said on Tuesday.
    ---
    If you are bleeding to half death, what kind of miracle drugs can save you?
    Vit E?

    You are surposed to eat good and do good exercises to prevent you from getting
    vascular disease or diabetes.

    On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:57:01 -0500, "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    =>http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=7910550

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