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Dr Curious · 2004-07-01T12:47:13+00:00

Thus is from Howard Peel's excellent website "The Bikezone at http://www.motorcarnage.org.uk/thebikezone/bike1.html Howard Peel got a job as a Cycling Officer with the East Riding Council, and his experiences in that role are almost impossible to believe. Almost. In its mission statement the local authority claims as follows - "'Policy 12.51 The council has to ensure it sets a good example as a cycle friendly employer and encourage other employers to follow suit:" As the cycling officer Howard Peel felt it only right to cycle every day to his job at County Hall. However he was prevented from doing so and received a letter containing amongst other reasons, the following. 1) Allowing cycles onto site did not fit in with the 'vision' Property Services had for County Hall. 2) The presence of cycles would degrade the quality of the working environment and make the site 'look untidy'. (Apparently the fumes and noise from motor vehicles being driven around the site did not adversely affect those working in County Hall!). 3) It was against 'health and safety' regulations as the barrier across Register Square. 'Might kill cyclists'. (This was despite the fact that the barriers were fitted with detectors to stop them from lowering when anyone was stood under them!). The full story can be found on here - http://www.motorcarnage.org.uk/thebikezone/confessions/c- oaco4.html Curious

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Dr Curious
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1 July 2004, 12:47 UTC #1

Thus is from Howard Peel's excellent website "The
Bikezone at
motorcarnage.org.ukbike1.html
Howard Peel got a job as a Cycling Officer with the East
Riding Council, and his experiences in that role are almost
impossible to believe. Almost.
In its mission statement the local authority claims as
follows -
"'Policy 12.51 The council has to ensure it sets a good
example as a cycle friendly employer and encourage other
employers to follow suit:"
As the cycling officer Howard Peel felt it only right to
cycle every day to his job at County Hall. However he was
prevented from doing so and received a letter containing
amongst other reasons, the following.
1) Allowing cycles onto site did not fit in with the
'vision' Property Services had for County Hall.
2) The presence of cycles would degrade the quality of the
working environment and make the site 'look untidy'.
(Apparently the fumes and noise from motor vehicles being
driven around the site did not adversely affect those
working in County Hall!).
3) It was against 'health and safety' regulations as the
barrier across Register Square. 'Might kill cyclists'.
(This was despite the fact that the barriers were fitted
with detectors to stop them from lowering when anyone was
stood under them!).
The full story can be found on here -
motorcarnage.org.ukc
oaco4.html
Curious

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Dave Larrington
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1 July 2004, 14:01 UTC #2

Dr Curious said:
Howard Peel got a job as a Cycling Officer with the East
Riding Council, and his experiences in that role are
almost impossible to believe. Almost.
In its mission statement the local authority claims as
follows -
"'Policy 12.51 The council has to ensure it sets a good
example as a cycle friendly employer and encourage other
employers to follow suit:"
As the cycling officer Howard Peel felt it only right to
cycle every day to his job at County Hall. However he was
prevented from doing so and received a letter containing
amongst other reasons, the following.
[ludicrous twattery]
That does it. Proof the country has gone mad. I'm selling my
soul to Stan and emigrating on the proceeds.
Bye
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Nick Kew
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1 July 2004, 14:16 UTC #3

In article <[email hidden]>,
Dr Curious said:
The full story can be found on here -
Haven't we seen this story on URC before?
I'm sure it's too late now, but wouldn't it have made an
excellent testcase for getting that kind of attutide torad
cycling ruled illegal in a court of law - especially given
the victim's actual job! If Mr Peel didn't have a trade
union to take up the case for him, maybe it could be of
interest to the CTC?
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Dr Curious
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1 July 2004, 14:45 UTC #4

"Nick Kew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Dr Curious"
Quoted message said:
The full story can be found on here -
Haven't we seen this story on URC before?
...
Most probably. Newsgroups huh?
...
Quoted message said:

I'm sure it's too late now, but wouldn't it have made an
excellent testcase for getting that kind of attutide torad
cycling ruled illegal in a court of law - especially given
the victim's actual job!
Quoted message said:
If Mr Peel didn't have a trade union to take up the case
for him, maybe it could be of interest to the CTC?
...
Unfortunately, ruling attitudes illegal, more epecially the
more frankly absurd attitudes displayed by officialdom this
case, doesn't make them any the less prevalent. People who
ignore reams of scientific evidence concerning cycle safety,
are highly unlikely to be swayed by the possible
implications of a Court judgement in Yorkshire.
Sorry to say.
Curious
Quoted message said:
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Zog The Undenia
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1 July 2004, 20:49 UTC #5

Dave Larrington said:
That does it. Proof the country has gone mad. I'm selling
my soul to Stan and emigrating on the proceeds.
The Southern Territory of Australia is desperate for English
immigrants at the moment. I'm tempted, but at 35 I'm
probably too old.

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Dave Larrington
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2 July 2004, 09:46 UTC #6

Zog The Undeniable said:
The Southern Territory of Australia is desperate for
English immigrants at the moment. I'm tempted, but at 35
I'm probably too old.
That's me out too then, he said, smoothing his greying
locks...
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Graeme
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2 July 2004, 10:49 UTC #7

Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]> wrote in news:40e477d1.0@entanet:
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The Southern Territory of Australia is desperate for
English immigrants at the moment. I'm tempted, but at 35
I'm probably too old.
*Southern* Territory. Where's that then? You've got Western
Australia (which is about half of Oz), *Northern* Territory,
New South Wales, Queensland, Victoria, Tasmania, Australian
Capital Territory and South Australia.
NT is bloody hot, even compared to here in WA. It's
mid-winter there and they get the jumpers on when it
drops to 25'C.
If you're a nurse or a doctor you can more or less walk in.
IT geeks just got kicked of the preferred proffession list
(or whatever they call it).
Graeme

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Peter Connolly
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2 July 2004, 12:28 UTC #8

Graeme said:
If you're a nurse or a doctor you can more or less walk
in. IT geeks just got kicked of the preferred proffession
list (or whatever they call it).
Bar staff are probably still on that list, because all the
Austrailian ones are in London!
Pete.

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Tony Raven
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2 July 2004, 12:30 UTC #9

Dr Curious said:

The full story can be found on here -
motorcarnage.org.ukco
aco4.html
Sounds like a harassment claim could be successfully lodged.
Tony

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Gawnsoft
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2 July 2004, 14:18 UTC #10

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:26:47 +0100, "Dr Curious"
<[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):
Quoted message said:
"Nick Kew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
I'm sure it's too late now, but wouldn't it have made an
excellent testcase for getting that kind of attutide
torad cycling ruled illegal in a court of law -
especially given the victim's actual job!
Quoted message said:
If Mr Peel didn't have a trade union to take up the case
for him, maybe it could be of interest to the CTC?
...
Unfortunately, ruling attitudes illegal, more epecially the
more frankly absurd attitudes displayed by officialdom this
case, doesn't make them any the less prevalent. People who
ignore reams of scientific evidence concerning cycle
safety, are highly unlikely to be swayed by the possible
implications of a Court judgement in Yorkshire.
Sorry to say.
But getting the council to review their behaviour in the
light of the councils own stated policy should be
possible. Somehow.
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