More Marrathon S

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks Carla for the great link you had of how to work on the Marathon S. When I read through it I
realized I had completely misunderstood Marzocchi on how to finetune my Marathon S. Or they
weren't very good at explaining. Take your pick😉

When I got to the rebound adjustment I still was a little confused though

as

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it seems that the little screw for the rebound and the knob for the

preload

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turn together. This is all on the right hand side. Setting preload on the left side was a piece
of cake.

Check out this picture for a right side view of Preload and Rebound adjustment knobs.
myweb.cableone.netMarz reboundadj arrow.jpgOpen ↗ When I turn the rebound
"silver slot", the preload knob "black knob",

moves

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with it and vice versa. I thought they should be set independently of each other but I am a little
nervous about holding on to the black knob with a wrench and applying force on the screw in the
middle. So as it is right

now

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it feels like I can only set the preload on the right side.

Is there anybody can explain how this is supposed to be. BTW I don't even have the plastic black
knob anymore. It looks like it has been knocked

off.

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You can see where the small allen bolt made a nudge mark in it. It is

still

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easy to turn with a 7 mm wrench. Except that the screw moves with it.

Hope somebody could follow this.

Read through this, it might explain that inner adjuster screw a little better, basically, the
black preload knob is all you really need, so no need to worry about the adjuster screw. My Z2
works the same way:

marzocchi.comMTB 00stndrd 900680.pdfOpen ↗

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

Carla A-G said:

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Snip confusing explanation. Hope somebody could follow this.

Read through this, it might explain that inner adjuster screw a little better, basically, the
black preload knob is all you really need, so no need to worry about the adjuster screw. My Z2
works the same way:

marzocchi.comMTB 00stndrd 900680.pdfOpen ↗

No it didn't really explain anything just made me feel even more stupid. The only thing I could
relate to was the following text QUOTE "The adjuster screw (ref. 6) located on top of the slider
controls REBOUND damping. When turning inside the cartidge rod, this adjuster will change the
configuration of the inner valves. Some models feature a rebound adjuster on the RH fork leg only.
To adjust, always start from the minimum damping setting, i.e. with the screw fully turned
clockwise."

They describe as "when turning inside cartridge rod, this adjuster will change..." It seems to me
when I turn this adjuster screw also the cartridge rod is turning with it. Therefore I don't seem to
be able to change my rebound damping at all. The ETA adjuster on the left side does turn inside the
black knob and does change the lockout from none to pretty much all locked out.

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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thanks Carla for the great link you had of how to work on the Marathon S. When I read through it I
realized I had completely misunderstood Marzocchi on how to finetune my Marathon S. Or they
weren't very good at explaining. Take your pick😉

When I got to the rebound adjustment I still was a little confused though

as

Quoted message said:

it seems that the little screw for the rebound and the knob for the

preload

Quoted message said:

turn together. This is all on the right hand side. Setting preload on the left side was a piece
of cake.

Check out this picture for a right side view of Preload and Rebound adjustment knobs.
myweb.cableone.netMarz reboundadj arrow.jpgOpen ↗ When I turn the rebound
"silver slot", the preload knob "black knob",

moves

Quoted message said:

with it and vice versa. I thought they should be set independently of each other but I am a little
nervous about holding on to the black knob with a wrench and applying force on the screw in the
middle. So as it is right

now

Quoted message said:

it feels like I can only set the preload on the right side.

Is there anybody can explain how this is supposed to be. BTW I don't even have the plastic black
knob anymore. It looks like it has been knocked

off.

Quoted message said:

You can see where the small allen bolt made a nudge mark in it. It is

still

Quoted message said:

easy to turn with a 7 mm wrench. Except that the screw moves with it.

Hope somebody could follow this.

--
Perre

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Per Elmsäter,

After studying the picture it looks to me as if the rebound screw can be adjusted independant of the
preload. Try holding the preload knob and gently turning the rebound set screw to see if it will
move. If so, go ahead and set your preload and then adjust the rebound to your liking. The rebound
must be a separate internal function of the cartridge. On the other (left) leg does the ETA
adjustment move when you change the preload ?

Keep in mind that I'm not a bike mechanic. Just trying to help ;-)

As you said "Hope you can follow this"

Also I would think that Marzocchi would replace that plastic knob if you contact them. Possibly with
the aluminum knob that comes on the 2004 Marathon S as it appears to be a weak point.

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MBrundage said:

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thanks Carla for the great link you had of how to work on the Marathon S. When I read through it
I realized I had completely misunderstood Marzocchi on how to finetune my Marathon S. Or they
weren't very good at explaining. Take your pick😉

When I got to the rebound adjustment I still was a little confused though as it seems that the
little screw for the rebound and the knob for the preload turn together. This is all on the right
hand side. Setting preload on the left side was a piece of cake.

Check out this picture for a right side view of Preload and Rebound adjustment knobs.
myweb.cableone.netMarz reboundadj arrow.jpgOpen ↗ When I turn the rebound
"silver slot", the preload knob "black knob", moves with it and vice versa. I thought they should
be set independently of each other but I am a little nervous about holding on to the black knob
with a wrench and applying force on the screw in the middle. So as it is right now it feels like
I can only set the preload on the right side.

Is there anybody can explain how this is supposed to be. BTW I don't even have the plastic black
knob anymore. It looks like it has been knocked off. You can see where the small allen bolt made
a nudge mark in it. It is still easy to turn with a 7 mm wrench. Except that the screw moves
with it.

Hope somebody could follow this.

--
Perre

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Per Elmsäter,

After studying the picture it looks to me as if the rebound screw can be adjusted independant of
the preload. Try holding the preload knob and gently turning the rebound set screw to see if it
will move. If so, go ahead and set your preload and then adjust the rebound to your liking. The
rebound must be a separate internal function of the cartridge. On the other (left) leg does the
ETA adjustment move when you change the preload ?

Keep in mind that I'm not a bike mechanic. Just trying to help ;-)

As you said "Hope you can follow this"

Well you could certainly follow me 😉 and you are spot on. If we start with the left leg lets
rephrase your question. Does the preload change when you move the ETA? Then the answer is no. The
ETA moves inside the preload about 60 degrees maybe. When you change the preload you want the ETA to
follow so you don't hold on to it. Now this is exactly what I want to do on the right side with the
rebound instead of the ETA and of course having the rebound move a lot more than 60 degrees inside.
Several turns I was expecting. OK I tried doing what you propose and it didn't budge. Of course I
didn't apply any brutal force, just fingertip muscles as I have learned my lessons in the past how
easy it is to break bicycleparts when not moving them the way they are meant to. So I was hoping
there would be somebody out there that has adjusted the rebound on their own Marathon S, preferably
2003 years model. If there is can you confirm if the rebound screw moves independently of the
preload knob on the right side?

Quoted message said:

Also I would think that Marzocchi would replace that plastic knob if you contact them. Possibly
with the aluminum knob that comes on the 2004 Marathon S as it appears to be a weak point.

Yes I am sure, but before I fix the cosmetics I wan't it working.

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Perre

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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well you could certainly follow me 😉 and you are spot on. If we start

with

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the left leg lets rephrase your question. Does the preload change when you move the ETA? Then the
answer is no. The ETA moves inside the preload

about

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60 degrees maybe. When you change the preload you want the ETA to follow

so

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you don't hold on to it. Now this is exactly what I want to do on the right side with the rebound
instead of the ETA and of course having the rebound move a lot more than

60

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degrees inside. Several turns I was expecting. OK I tried doing what you propose and it didn't
budge. Of course I didn't apply any brutal force, just fingertip muscles as I have learned my

lessons

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in the past how easy it is to break bicycleparts when not moving them the way they are meant to.
So I was hoping there would be somebody out there that has adjusted the rebound on their own
Marathon S, preferably 2003

years

Quoted message said:

model. If there is can you confirm if the rebound screw moves independently of

the

Quoted message said:

preload knob on the right side?

Quoted message said:

Also I would think that Marzocchi would replace that plastic knob if you contact them. Possibly
with the aluminum knob that comes on the 2004 Marathon S as it appears to be a weak point.

Yes I am sure, but before I fix the cosmetics I wan't it working.

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Perre

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I'm was hoping that screw would turn for you. There has to be someone out there in "The Bomberhood"
who knows the answer. I'll be watching for a reply.

Did you have a chance to try the fork before you started working on it ? If so, how did it ride ?

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MBrundage said:

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Well you could certainly follow me 😉 and you are spot on. If we start with the left leg lets
rephrase your question. Does the preload change when you move the ETA? Then the answer is no. The
ETA moves inside the preload about 60 degrees maybe. When you change the preload you want the ETA
to follow so you don't hold on to it. Now this is exactly what I want to do on the right side
with the rebound instead of the ETA and of course having the rebound move a lot more than 60
degrees inside. Several turns I was expecting. OK I tried doing what you propose and it didn't
budge. Of course I didn't apply any brutal force, just fingertip muscles as I have learned my
lessons in the past how easy it is to break bicycleparts when not moving them the way they are
meant to. So I was hoping there would be somebody out there that has adjusted the rebound on
their own Marathon S, preferably 2003 years model. If there is can you confirm if the rebound
screw moves independently of the preload knob on the right side?

Quoted message said:

Also I would think that Marzocchi would replace that plastic knob if you contact them. Possibly
with the aluminum knob that comes on the 2004 Marathon S as it appears to be a weak point.

Yes I am sure, but before I fix the cosmetics I wan't it working.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

I'm was hoping that screw would turn for you. There has to be someone out there in "The
Bomberhood" who knows the answer. I'll be watching for a reply.

Did you have a chance to try the fork before you started working on it ? If so, how did it ride ?

Slow rebound. I wan't it quicker, livelier.

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Perre

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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm was hoping that screw would turn for you. There has to be someone out there in "The
Bomberhood" who knows the answer. I'll be watching for a reply.

Did you have a chance to try the fork before you started working on it ? If so, how did it
ride ?

Slow rebound. I wan't it quicker, livelier.

Per,

Let's start from the start...

The preload is adjusted with the knobs (the black large ones) on _both_ legs. When you turn them
clockwise, it increases the preload. Counterclockwise decreases the preload.

The rebound is adjusted with the the little screw on the right fork leg. The little screw can be
turned independently from the black knob using a screwdriver while holding the black knob to prevent
it from turning. If you want to adjust the rebound properly, turn the screw fully clockwise and make
that your starting point, then adjust it until it feels right for you.

Hope this helps.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

Carla A-G said:

"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm was hoping that screw would turn for you. There has to be someone out there in "The
Bomberhood" who knows the answer. I'll be watching for a reply.

Did you have a chance to try the fork before you started working on it ? If so, how did it
ride ?

Slow rebound. I wan't it quicker, livelier.

Per,

Let's start from the start...

The preload is adjusted with the knobs (the black large ones) on _both_ legs. When you turn them
clockwise, it increases the preload. Counterclockwise decreases the preload.

Check.

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The rebound is adjusted with the the little screw on the right fork leg. The little screw can be
turned independently from the black knob using a screwdriver while holding the black knob to
prevent it from turning. If you want to adjust the rebound properly, turn the screw fully
clockwise and make that your starting point, then adjust it until it feels right for you.

Check

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Hope this helps.

Yes Carla that helped. You have answered precisely the question I am asking. So now it seem I have a
problem since I cannot turn the rebound screw without having the knob turn. Probably it is either
screwed out too far or in too far until it got stuck. Not being sure of which direction I need to
apply force I am in a bit of a fix on how to go on with this.

However you have confirmed my suspicions and maybe I'll get this screw moving one of these
days. Hopefully without busting it. I'll probably soak it in Coca Cola or something overnight
and try again 😉

Hmmm I reread this post before I sent it and saw that I answered earlir that the rebound was too
slow. That should be the answer to which direction the screw is overtightened

Thanks all, now I have good hope of solving this.

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Perre

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