more smoke, more fire (colorado)

Monique Y. Herman said:

A forest fire just started up Lefthand Canyon in Jamestown this morning. I saw the smoke while
driving to work; now it stretches across the sky even from Boulder. Eric tells me it's raining ash
in Longmont, where we
live. (About 17 miles from Jamestown, according to mapquest.)

The crazy wind we've been having since last night can't be helping, but the Jamestown forecast
calls for snow thurs->sun.

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Anyway, nowhere near as bad as California (I hope). Interesting to note that the Lefthand Canyon
FD sent a fire truck out to help the CA fires.

I'm sorry to hear this. Good luck to you all, 1 mile west is the Miller Rock trail (St. Vrain) and a
beautiful area. I onced looked at houses there.

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A forest fire just started up Lefthand Canyon in Jamestown this morning. I saw the smoke while
driving to work; now it stretches across the sky even from Boulder. Eric tells me it's raining ash
in Longmont, where we
live. (About 17 miles from Jamestown, according to mapquest.)

The crazy wind we've been having since last night can't be helping, but the Jamestown forecast
calls for snow thurs->sun.

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Anyway, nowhere near as bad as California (I hope). Interesting to note that the Lefthand Canyon
FD sent a fire truck out to help the CA fires.

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Good luck Monique

cg

Monique Y. Herman said:

Anyway, nowhere near as bad as California (I hope). Interesting to note that the Lefthand Canyon
FD sent a fire truck out to help the CA fires.

That's actually a part of why the Cedar Fire got so out of hand here in San Diego- a good part of
our fire fighters were in other areas helping out. It took a while to recall them to fight our
own blazes.

Miles

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Good luck Monique

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure that my house is safe (or maybe I'm just naive), but there are others closer to the
mountains.

I've recently heard that there's another fire near Castlerock (closer to Denver). Weird.

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CG says:

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Good luck Monique

Yeah - from me too!

I'm just glad it's THAT Jamestown, not mine...

Steve

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I've recently heard that there's another fire near Castlerock (closer to Denver). Weird.

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monique

I'll tell ya what's weird, JD is in California and half the state is on fire. He goes back to CO and
all of a sudden, CO is on fire.... that's weird!
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I've recently heard that there's another fire near Castlerock (closer to Denver). Weird.

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monique

I'll tell ya what's weird, JD is in California and half the state is on fire. He goes back to CO
and all of a sudden, CO is on fire.... that's weird!
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Maybe he snagged an ember in his ponytail. *~:^o

Mike

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I've recently heard that there's another fire near Castlerock (closer to Denver). Weird.

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monique

I'll tell ya what's weird, JD is in California and half the state is on fire. He goes back to CO
and all of a sudden, CO is on fire.... that's weird!
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Slacker

Maybe he snagged an ember in his ponytail. *~:^o

Mike

He doens't have a ponytail anymore

Penny

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if you are reading this post via any webpage other than googlegroups

or one

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provided by a news server subscription service, it is being used and possibly being edited or
modified without my permission, in violation

of US

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copyright laws.

Oh please.

What's your recourse?

Answer:

A civil action.

Did you give permission to Google or any other news server subscription service to reproduce your
copyrighted musings? You are going to include them in your suit as well, right?

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

JD

P e t e F a g e r l i n spray painted on a boxcar:

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Penny S said:

if you are reading this post via any webpage other than googlegroups or one provided by a news
server subscription service, it is being used and possibly being edited or modified without my
permission, in violation of US copyright laws.

Oh please.

What's your recourse?

Answer:

A civil action.

Did you give permission to Google or any other news server subscription service to reproduce your
copyrighted musings? You are going to include them in your suit as well, right?

I am so not in the mood to argue this. I think it reprehensible that cycling forums is moderating
and editing amb, or at least MY stuff, without my permission. It's bad enough that an uniformed
person might think CF.com is implying some sort of ownership or control of content via
theirmembershiop & bbs interface.

I"m going back into my cave now.

penny

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if you are reading this post via any webpage other than

googlegroups

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or one provided by a news server subscription service, it is being used and possibly being
edited or modified without my permission, in violation of US copyright laws.

Oh please.

What's your recourse?

Answer:

A civil action.

Did you give permission to Google or any other news server subscription service to reproduce your
copyrighted musings? You are going to include them in your suit as well, right?

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I am so not in the mood to argue this.

What's to argue?

Your only recourse, if you're truly serious and not just engaging in some virtual foot stomping, is
a civil action.

So you gave Google and the other new server subscription services permission to reproduce your
copyrighted musings with the condition that they don't edit them?

I think it reprehensible that cycling

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forums is moderating and editing amb, or at least MY stuff, without

my

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permission.

So you're stamping your feet to show them?

Please.

Waving around "US copyright law violation" like it's going to make a difference only makes the
person waving look like they don't have any sort of grasp on the situation.

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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

JD

Now, now Penny Henny (Henny Penny?)

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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

JD

Now, now Penny Henny (Henny Penny?)

( and then i'm going for a ride)

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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

JD

Now, now Penny Henny (Henny Penny?)

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( and then i'm going for a ride)

Watch out for Foxy-Woxy in that cave of yours...

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cg

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> JD

Now, now Penny Henny (Henny Penny?)

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( and then i'm going for a ride)

Watch out for Foxy-Woxy in that cave of yours...

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cg

lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you.

pass the tin foil, I think the solar flares are giving me a severe case of idioit-itis this week.

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>> JD
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( and then i'm going for a ride)

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cg

lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you.

pass the tin foil, I think the solar flares are giving me a severe case of idioit-itis this week.

It happens to the best of us. Rest assured you are still well loved and appreciated in spite of your
case "idioit-itis". ;-)

cg

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 17:04 GMT, P e t e F a g e r l i n penned:

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Your only recourse, if you're truly serious and not just engaging in some virtual foot stomping,
is a civil action.

So you gave Google and the other new server subscription services permission to reproduce your
copyrighted musings with the condition that they don't edit them?

I think it reprehensible that cycling

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forums is moderating and editing amb, or at least MY stuff, without

my

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permission.

So you're stamping your feet to show them?

Please.

Waving around "US copyright law violation" like it's going to make a difference only makes the
person waving look like they don't have any sort of grasp on the situation.

It's called "raising awareness." Some people, reading through cycling forums and other venues, may
not realize that these posts are being edited. Hrm, are these posts showing up there, or
mysteriously disappearing?

Googlegroups is acting as a news server. If a news server started editing my posts (outside of
removing binary attachments from non-binary

I like the sig.

On the other hand, those of us who object to the practice should probably email the forum admins in
question and express our objections directly.

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Monique Y. Herman said:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 17:04 GMT, P e t e F a g e r l i n penned:

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Waving around "US copyright law violation" like it's going to make a difference only makes the
person waving look like they don't have any sort of grasp on the situation.

It's called "raising awareness." Some people, reading through cycling forums and other venues, may
not realize that these posts are being edited. Hrm, are these posts showing up there, or
mysteriously disappearing?

"raising awareness" of what exactly? Editing out "bad" words?

Do you really think that your posts to amb are so important, precious,

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Googlegroups is acting as a news server. If a news server started editing my posts (outside of
removing binary attachments from non-binary

Why?

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I like the sig.

I do too. It's hilarious, despite being not very well thought out.

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On the other hand, those of us who object to the practice should probably email the forum admins in
question and express our objections directly.

I suggest making sandwich boards and forming a picket line.

Here's what could be on the sandwich boards:

On the backside:

pete fagerlin

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