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  1. Chris Z The Wheelman said:

    A little courtesy does go a long way, it seems. As for the voluntarily
    deaf rider, I would suggest hand signals (pointing to the other curb)
    and try to ride to his right. That way if anyone gets hit, more likely
    it won't be you!

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    It seems that headphones and going the right way would likely induce a
    'Darwin' event for this rider.
    Headphones and either way on a bike is stupid.
    Bill Baka

  2. Bob said:
    Leo Lichtman said:

    "Earl Bollinger" wrote: A few months ago, I almost had a head on with a
    wrong way Hispanic rider in the wee hours before dawn.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Earl, why did you feel compelled to mention his ethnicity?

    Maybe it was in the interest of accuracy. Perhaps it was because he was
    thinking of the possible language barrier that prevented him from
    stopping to lecture the rider. Since he didn't make any disparaging
    remarks based on ethnicity does it really matter?

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt


    The only reason I would mention ethnicity is due to the dark
    circumstances and the darker skin of a Hispanic making him nearly
    invisible. The 'ethnic' rider was really stacking the deck against himself.
    Could have been black, same results, invisible.
    Bill Baka

  3. Claire Petersky said:

    Only one person did I describe by race/ethnicity, a black woman. It
    caused me to reflect <snip>

    Am I the only one who sees the humor in that?

    (reflect = light bouncing off a light surface)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  4. Mark Hickey said:
    Claire Petersky said:

    Only one person did I describe by race/ethnicity, a black woman. It
    caused me to reflect <snip>

    Am I the only one who sees the humor in that?

    (reflect = light bouncing off a light surface)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    SOME of us got it, but admitting we got it might touch off another round
    of meaningless flaming.
    Bill Baka

  5. Bill Baka said:


    Mark Hickey said:
    Claire Petersky said:

    Only one person did I describe by race/ethnicity, a black woman. It
    caused me to reflect <snip>

    Am I the only one who sees the humor in that?

    (reflect = light bouncing off a light surface)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    SOME of us got it, but admitting we got it might touch off another round
    of meaningless flaming.
    Bill Baka

    Oh come now, guys. Context. Context.
    "reflect - to mainfest as a result of one's actions"

    Yeah, I know youz know that and wuz simply scratchin' around for an excuse to
    throw muck. That's why I'm not gonna spring a pop quiz on ya .... now.

    --
    Michael

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    I don't understand why some people get bent out of shape when
    ethnicity/race are used to describe someone. It's no different than
    calling someone "the guy with the mohawk" or "the girl with the blonde
    hair".

    Because it can be different and often is.

    I agree with you in principle, people are way too sensitive about it --
    actually, sensitive isn't the right word... more like indiscriminate
    (pardon the pun) with their offence.

    Then it should come down to context and character: the context in which the
    reference is being made and the character of the person.

    If the reference contains nothing else of a bigoted nature and the person
    making the reference isn't a notorious anti-whatever then there should be no
    reason to comment or question.

    Point of clarity: "Race" as it's often used in terms of 'black' 'white'
    'Asian's etc is a myth. The traits associated with those 'races' are
    expressed through a relatively few genes so that it is entirely possible a
    pale blond Swede could be more closed related genetically to a dark black
    African than to another pale blond.

  7. Leo, why do you choose to react to any mention of race?

    Gusta

    Leo Lichtman schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Earl Bollinger" wrote: A few months ago, I almost had a head on with a
    wrong way Hispanic rider in the wee hours before dawn.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Earl, why did you feel compelled to mention his ethnicity?


  8. Quoted message said:

    Leo Lichtman schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Earl Bollinger" wrote: A few months ago, I almost had a head on with a
    wrong way Hispanic rider in the wee hours before dawn.(clip)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Earl, why did you feel compelled to mention his ethnicity?

    Quoted message said:

    Leo, why do you choose to react to any mention of race?

    Gusta

    Maybe he's a member of the group of people who go around calling people
    "racists" whenever the subject of ethnicity comes up. I can't quite figure
    out the allure, but some people see themselves as language police on that
    subject.

    Pat in TX

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    Quoted message said:

    Leo, why do you choose to react to any mention of race?

    Gusta

    Leo Lichtman schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "Earl Bollinger" wrote: A few months ago, I almost had a head on with a
    wrong way Hispanic rider in the wee hours before dawn.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Earl, why did you feel compelled to mention his ethnicity?


    I did a bike tour in Mexico once and truck drivers were constantly honking
    and trying to get me off the road, even with no oncoming traffic. I later
    realized they wanted me to ride in a broken-glass littered dirt path. I
    think it's cultural, as I have noticed before that Hispanics seem to ride on
    side walks and wrong way a lot. Of course we need everyone to obey the
    traffic laws and especially don't ride on the wrong side. But sometimes it
    may help on how to get the message across depending on who you talk to.

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